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GW named Time's Man of the Year!

Korg Stygian
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12-19-2004 05:09
The Dems and other liberals are going to have a conniption fit over this...

CNN's webiste has it as breaking news that Time magazine is going to name President Bush as its Man of the Year!

Those with compassion in their hearts (which leaves me out) might want to hold a wake for the deaths due to heartattacks that are now bound to happen.

Others, like me, should begin to reach for the cotton/earplugs to stuff our ears as the wailing will begin presently I am sure --- certainly loud enough to make the Republican's clamor about Dirty Ole Bill seem like a crooner singing Brahms' Lullaby.
Aaron Levy
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12-19-2004 05:12
Time.com also has a very good article and interview with him.

http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/2004/story.html
Tito Gomez
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12-19-2004 07:10
And it is even better news for the President, considering Time is definitely not known as a conservative publication and for the reasons behind them chosing him.

From the publishing editor:

"Bush's bold, uncompromising leadership and his clear-cut election victory made him Time magazine's 'Person of the Year' for 2004"'

"Time chose Bush "for sticking to his guns (literally and figuratively), for reshaping the rules of politics to fit his 10-gallon-hat leadership style and for persuading a majority of voters this time around that he deserved to be in the White House for another four years"

"But even those who may not have voted for him will acknowledge that this is one of the more influential presidents of the last 50 years."

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Mac Beach
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12-19-2004 08:42
What's that grinding sound?

The gnashing of liberal teeth?

On the other hand it will give them more oportunities for comparisons with Hitler.

Let the flames begin...
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Malachi Petunia
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12-19-2004 08:49
Cool, so George Jr. gets to join Hitler, Stalin, Kruschev, Nixon, Khomeni, and Ted Turner in the austere category of "Faces that will help Sales of Time Magazine".

Now if he were to make People Magazine's 192 World's Most Beautiful People list, that would be news.
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Devlin Gallant
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12-19-2004 09:00
Damn, Mal beat me to it.
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Tito Gomez
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12-19-2004 09:08
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Cool, so George Jr. gets to join Hitler, Stalin, Kruschev, Nixon, Khomeni, and Ted Turner in the austere category of "Faces that will help Sales of Time Magazine".


I wish a bookie would have taken action on this one. I would have bet the mortgage on the response, word by word.

The only on you forgot was John F. Kennedy, Man of the year 1961, the president that got us into Vietnam.

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Malachi Petunia
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12-19-2004 09:28
Yep, I forgot a bunch and could have added Deng Xioping, Carter, and Peter Uberroth :confused: . Sorry, didn't mean to be political about it, it is just that I don't know much about Pope John XXIII or Anwar Sadat. My point was that it is about selling rags and that's about it.
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Ardith Mifflin
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12-19-2004 10:02
Of all the forums which I have visited this morning, the only people even mentioning this are annoying Republicans who announce it, then make snide comments about Democrats doubtlessly being upset by it.

Let me put it bluntly: the man is Time's Man of the Year because his Dark Age policies of murder and bigotry are drastically and detrimentally shaping this country's future. Shrub is undeniably the most influential man of this year. He will be selecting some SCOTUS Justices, to ensure that his hypocritical and inconsistent laws are upheld, and he will continue to serve as Commander and Thief of this's nation's armed services. He is undeniably deserving of the title Man of the Year. I look forward to one day showing my children a copy of this issue, and explaining to them that this was the man responsible for destroying America.
Ryen Jade
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12-19-2004 10:16
From: Ardith Mifflin
Of all the forums which I have visited this morning, the only people even mentioning this are annoying Republicans who announce it, then make snide comments about Democrats doubtlessly being upset by it.

Let me put it bluntly: the man is Time's Man of the Year because his Dark Age policies of murder and bigotry are drastically and detrimentally shaping this country's future. Shrub is undeniably the most influential man of this year. He will be selecting some SCOTUS Justices, to ensure that his hypocritical and inconsistent laws are upheld, and he will continue to serve as Commander and Thief of this's nation's armed services. He is undeniably deserving of the title Man of the Year. I look forward to one day showing my children a copy of this issue, and explaining to them that this was the man responsible for destroying America.


All of the republicans I have met (with exceptions, mainly lecktor) seem to have a fetish for bringing down the democratic party.
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Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways


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Juro Kothari
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12-19-2004 10:46
From: Ardith Mifflin
. . . the only people even mentioning this are annoying Republicans who announce it, then make snide comments about Democrats doubtlessly being upset by it.


That would be Korg.


Congratulations to GW for making Time's Man of the Year. OTOH, it really doesn't change my impression of him, so it's worth about $0.01L to me.
Korg Stygian
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12-19-2004 12:05
From: Juro Kothari
That would be Korg.

Uh.. No.....I could give a rat's ass about the Dem Party and/or it's survival. Juro you give me too much credit for being political and by singling me out by name show what an inconsequential yet barely noticeable pain in my butt you are.

OTOH, think back just a month ago... who was gnashing their teeth and proclaiming the coming of the end of the world as we know it? Wasn't Repblicans as a group.... and a few years ago when "ole Bubba the trailer trash fetisihist" was elected, I can't think of a single Republican who said the same. Dem's - at least the most vocal ones here in these forums - appear to be true extremists egged on by a global liberal movement ... so, my prediction of the reaction is extremely logical.

Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways.
Tito Gomez
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12-19-2004 12:20
From: someone
All of the republicans I have met (with exceptions, mainly lecktor) seem to have a fetish for bringing down the democratic party.


I don't think anyone is bringing down the Democratic party. It is true however, that those who have spent so much time and energy bashing the President for the last four years, will have a very difficult time accepting that a flagship liberal publication such as Time Magazine decided to select GWB for its man of the year cover and for the reasons that it did so.

I also don't recall anyone in these forums ever comparing Kerry, Clinton or anyone else in the Democratic party to Adolf Hitler or jackbooted Nazis. I wish I could say the same about the other side bringing up the same ridiculous comparisons to GWB and the Republican Party. Obviously, there are a few that need to speak to Grandma or Grandpa in order to understand what Hitler and the Nazis were about, and why so many Americans died fighting against them.

You also may want to tally how many anti-Republican / anti-Bush threads have been started in these forums; many of them, vicious in nature. Do the same for anti-Democrat threads. Once you get the results, please let us know. I'd be curious.

Yet another tally to run would be to see if you can determine how many Republicans frequent, or speak out in the forums. I can count them with one hand. Do the same with the liberals. I bet we easily have a 1-10 margin.

It is expected to be flamed in these forums if anyone dare say anything considered politically moderate or right of center, so I guess the responses on this thread should not surprise anyone. Majority rules, I guess.

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12-19-2004 12:46
From: Korg Stygian
Ryen the twerp .



Thanks for my new signature :D Frankly I take that statement as a sign of success, since you have to single out me and personally attack me in order to get your point accross. Which you still failed at doing. So congrats to you sir Korg, you prince of trolling, you master of enraging an entire community. GOOD DAY KIND SIR! GOOD DAY!
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Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways


IM A TWERP, IM A TWERP! :D

Whats a twerp? :confused:
Neehai Zapata
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12-19-2004 12:56
It's really not that big a deal that he is Man of the Year. I mean, he has been President for four years and will be for the next four.

Korg just wants another excuse to dismiss legitimate commentary on this President and his presidency. I swear he couldn't be a bigger drama queen with a dildo up his ass and streamers in his hair.
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Korg Stygian
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12-19-2004 12:56
From: Malachi Petunia
Cool, so George Jr. gets to join Hitler, Stalin, Kruschev, Nixon, Khomeni, and Ted Turner in the austere category of "Faces that will help Sales of Time Magazine".

I accidentally overlooked this post earlier.. considering the source... it was easy.

Yet another truly partisan comparison without merit.

OTOH, the Nixon comparison is somewhat confusing as that indicates a complete ignorance of a general consensus of professional historian's'/political scientists' perception of Nixon and his professional career. They seem to feel that "a single incident" (Watergate) should not be the measure of this man... his domestic polices and accomplishments are widely considered to have been somewhat weaker than his foreign affairs policies and accomplsihments ("opening" China, for instance, getting us out of Vietnam [tho not 'with honor' IMHO], and others too many to list here). Still, he is often compared by the cognoscenti as having been one of the most accomplshed Presidents - certainly in modern time.

So, Mal.. my hat's off to you.. you managed to screw that up very effectively....

Turner on the cover sold magazines? News to me. It was, percentage-wise, of those printed, one of the poorest selling issues ever.
Kendra Bancroft
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12-19-2004 13:08
I don't think there's a person alive who would dispute that the selection of Time Magazine of Bush as Man Of The Year is deserved. It's given to the man who is the most influential in shaping the current state of the world.

Ya sure ya wanna be happy about that?
Korg Stygian
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12-19-2004 13:17
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Ya sure ya wanna be happy about that?

As a matter of fact.. yes.
Tito Gomez
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12-19-2004 13:26
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Sorry, didn't mean to be political about it ... My point was that it is about selling rags and that's about it.


OK. I agree with you there and now I see your point.

It is just that from a historical, facts-only and non-political point of view, I cannot see those people being bunched in the same group.

Even Kruschev who was directly responsible for the suffering and imprisonment of tens of thousands, cannot be lumped with Stalin and Hitler. Those animals are in a category of their own (sorry to animal lovers, no insult meant to animals).

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12-19-2004 13:54
From: Korg Stygian
Uh.. No.....I could give a rat's ass about the Dem Party and/or it's survival. Juro you give me too much credit for being political and by singling me out by name show what an inconsequential yet barely noticeable pain in my butt you are.


Then why'd you bring it up and start making snide comments about how much the dems are going to hate it?
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Ryen Jade
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12-19-2004 13:54
Korg, why did you overlook my long, thoughtful post? Because you know I am right :p?
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Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways


IM A TWERP, IM A TWERP! :D

Whats a twerp? :confused:
Korg Stygian
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12-19-2004 14:23
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Then why'd you bring it up and start making snide comments about how much the dems are going to hate it?

You interpreted the comments as snide. I meant them as mere predictions... predictions which were based on unbiased analysis of previous posts by Dems/those publicly identifying themselves as liberals.

The rush to attack the orignal post/my motivation for making the posts is a good example of an attempt to portray me as the bad guy here and oneself as a victim - something that Republicans/Libertarians have rarely done/been accused of.

So, Mole... I'll see your "snide" and raise you a "chew on that a while".
Korg Stygian
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12-19-2004 14:24
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Korg, why did you overlook my long, thoughtful post? Because you know I am right :p?

1. Not thoughtful.
2. It was from uh... you! and therefore meaningless to me.
Moleculor Satyr
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12-19-2004 15:58
From: Korg Stygian
You interpreted the comments as snide. I meant them as mere predictions... predictions which were based on unbiased analysis of previous posts by Dems/those publicly identifying themselves as liberals.


Nothing you do is unbiased, even ignoring the fact that you are (assumedly) human. That said, let me rephrase the question: Why'd you feel the need to bring this up and then make comments about possible reactions?
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12-19-2004 15:58
From: Korg Stygian

The rush to attack the orignal post/my motivation for making the posts is a good example of an attempt to portray me as the bad guy here and oneself as a victim - something that Republicans/Libertarians have rarely done/been accused of.


"Hey, Saddam. We're looking for a scapegoat. We're too incompetent/corrupt to capture the real perpetrator of 9/11, so we need you to take the blame. You've got all of the qualifications we need. You're kind of a jerk and you've used your country's oil to carve yourself a great little niche. If there's anything the Americans hate more than a rich crook, it's an Ay-rab. So why don't you take one for the team? You get to play the role of the villain, and we can feel all victimized about your (ahem, alleged) involvement in 9/11. You were meant to play the role!"

"We hate lesbians. What about Mary Cheney, you ask? How dare you attack me like that! In a discussion about the issue of condemning homsexuality, you've got absolutely no right to attack me by pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of my daughter's existence! I feel like such a victim!"

Wah? Never the victim, Korg?
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