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FDA Approves Use of Chip in Patients

Rose Karuna
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Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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10-14-2004 08:40
From: Lecktor Hannibal
Bikers have known it for years !! Tinfoil under your helmet !! :cool:


It helps keep the top of your head from getting cold while your riding too - a good brain bake. Tin foil... Great Stuff. :D
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Isis Becquerel
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Join date: 1 Sep 2004
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10-14-2004 11:30
Soon we will have no papers...only a chip. Our daily finances, medical records, global position, drug intake...everything will be recorded...this is just the alpha of an extremely scary movement towards the end of freedom and anonymity. We will eventually have no choice. When a child is born the chip will automatically be injected without your approval. I have been for years warning people of this end. And everyone laughed, calling me an orwellian conspiracist.

We are on the cusp of a major decision. Do we bow down and allow them to take us, track us, forbid us those rights of privacy and freedom...or do we let ourselves fall into the grasps of Armageddon where even the rocks and mountains shall not hide us from those who wish to find us. It is our choice. We can be frogs in tepid water and say it is no big deal or we can fight against it and say that it is an invasion of privacy, the henchman of freedom. We can make people aware that the chip does not cut down on paper work and we don't mind carrying a tangible social security card and drivers license, that we want paper money...that we don't want people to know where we are at all times. I don't think that the people of the world will give up an ounce of safety for a pound of freedom but I can hope. I can hope that we care more about being a sovereign citizen than being able to track our husband down when he is late for dinner or pay our grocery bill with the wave of a hand.
Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
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Mr
10-14-2004 13:18
From: Korg Stygian
I am not for this idea at all.

First, insurance companies believe they have a "vested interest" in everyone's records - even those they (individual companies) are not currently insuring. So, by having access to any passersby's records, they can amass a huge medical database which can (and experience has alreeady shown WILL) be used to target specific medical-risk populations for targetted coverage price increases. Just imagine, someone two generations back in your ancestry had a mild/short hospitalization... you don't know the lab tests that were run, but they do - and suddenly you're turned down for/your life insurance policy premiums are increased without warning based on the fact of the lab test results showing some herediary disease you might possibly have inherited but currently show no symptoms of.

Second, as a retired military member, that "golden hour" on the battlefield won't be enhanced one way or another by these chips if proper procedures are followed. Most battlefield medicine is conducted without any serious reference to medical histories anyway due to the nature of war - penetrating wounds are penetrating wounds, traumatic amputations are just that.. Soldiers already carry dog tags that identify their allergies which might be relevant to medical treatment. "Chipping" soldiers will have no benefit to their battlefield medical treatment IMHO. Peacetime treatment may be another issue - but I don't like the intrusion/injection of foreign substances of any kind (otehr than the obvious and life-sustaining things like food and water) into my physical body.

Third, any and all information in databases is subject to misuse by people. Though well-intentioned, I am sure, this idea of adding to what the world knows about me is, while not frightening, something of concern with respect to maintaining anonimity. 100 years ago, people did not need to worry about remaining anonymous. Today, a quick search on the net and your personal identity can be "stolen"/assumed by someone else - well, if that is true, then records can be altered (consider the Sandra Bullock movie, The Net). IF medical records are to be carried on the chip, then it will need to be rewrtable - and that is the flaw in this system. I am no conspiracy theorist, but there is way too much opportunity for abuse here.

and that's my $L0.02.


Hmm, Korg. According to this database you have a small birthmark on your...well, I guess that IS personal information. :cool:
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
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Posts: 5,948
10-14-2004 13:21
From: Isis Becquerel
Soon we will have no papers...only a chip. Our daily finances, medical records, global position, drug intake...everything will be recorded...this is just the alpha of an extremely scary movement towards the end of freedom and anonymity. We will eventually have no choice. When a child is born the chip will automatically be injected without your approval. I have been for years warning people of this end. And everyone laughed, calling me an orwellian conspiracist.

We are on the cusp of a major decision. Do we bow down and allow them to take us, track us, forbid us those rights of privacy and freedom...or do we let ourselves fall into the grasps of Armageddon where even the rocks and mountains shall not hide us from those who wish to find us. It is our choice. We can be frogs in tepid water and say it is no big deal or we can fight against it and say that it is an invasion of privacy, the henchman of freedom. We can make people aware that the chip does not cut down on paper work and we don't mind carrying a tangible social security card and drivers license, that we want paper money...that we don't want people to know where we are at all times. I don't think that the people of the world will give up an ounce of safety for a pound of freedom but I can hope. I can hope that we care more about being a sovereign citizen than being able to track our husband down when he is late for dinner or pay our grocery bill with the wave of a hand.


If you believe in Armageddon...then why fight it? It is inevitable.
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