this rediculous

according to the community standards assault is defined as shooting, [pushing, or shoving] another Resident in a Safe Area (see Global Standards below); creating or using scripted objects which singularly or persistently target another Resident in a manner which prevents their enjoyment of Second Life. Note the areas i bracketed pushing or shoving one can easily accidently push or shove someone. So is it fair that people can get in trouble for it?

Actually, I'd have to say it is fair. See, the accidental nudge coming through the welcome area, can become, say, someone deliberatly walking into tomsone to keep them away. That's why that is there. I doubt you'll get in any sort of trouble if it's an accident.


And, Speaking on this topic...what ever happend to "Sorry", or "My bad", or "Excuse me" if you do bump an avie...

*bumps Verbena* Opps Sorry..*bumps again* Opps my bad..*bumps again* opps Excuse me..*bumps again..are we having sex yet?

I still apologize, common courtesy.


Haha, I had to laugh at Blake on that one.

If you accidentally bump into somebody, apologize. You aren't going to get in trouble for accidently bumping into somebody unless they abuse report you.

Few people would abuse report you for bumping into them by accident.

And another thing: DON'T BUMP INTO PEOPLE. If you can't control your avatar, keep a bit back from people until you get better at it.

Buster

no. it's also not fair that an advanced fighter or scripter has no option but to abuse report a shooter when they're well capable of way outgriefing the child. it's also not fair that people are suspended and banned without having any opportunity to defend themselves. oh and it's not fair that we're forced to use telehubs like little babies that don't have enough sense to explore and socialize on our own. it's really really not fair that we're told that we can't prevent people from placing temp on rez scanners at 600m above our land but people are allowed to put security scripted objects that high that knock us back home unawares when we're only trying to fly over because we're forced to use those stupid telehubs. i suppose it is fair that pituca has so many nice clothes and i don't'; but it still makes me wanna learn how to make them. what's not fair is that's i'm always finding other things to do and never learning how to make clothes. am i finished now?

Its all about being polite and having proper manners. If you accidentally push someone, saying sorry or excuse me is usually all you have to do. Just because this is a virtual world does not mean politeness goes out the window.

If you are rezzing at a telehub and you bump into someone, nobody will think anything of it. If someone is standing a distance from you and you come their way and push them, chances are they will get upset. What you say and how you react at that point, will either defuse the situation or make it an issue, as simple as that.

In most cases it is pretty obvious when someone is pushing people around in purpose.

Enjoy.

Tito

*wonders if he's bought one of those Giant Penis AV's yet.*

This thread no verb.

What you are describing here is something I typically call the "slippery slope" argument. It goes like this:

"You cannot punish people for bad behavior because doing so could may lead to punishing people for acceptable behavior."

This argument is normally evoked by people that wish to be "marginal griefers". They want the rules of conduct to be precisely defined and free of human interpretation so they can practice anti-social behavior as close to the line as possible without technically breaking any rules. SL doesn't work that way. Behavior WILL be interpreted.

But if the above description doesn't describe you then you have nothing to worry about. Take comfort in knowing that in the year and two months I have been playing SL, I never got an abuse report despite accidentally bumping into many many people.

I wonder how on earth the Lindens can not articulate a blanket and forceful policy on bounce scripts then, and have them systematically removed from the game.

SL doesn't strike me as an awfully fun place for FPS type wars. It's so laggy and has so many problems that you can't really use it for that. I think people wanting residences, clubs, malls, etc. outnumber those who want war zones. It seems there are so many other FPS games on the Internet that are more satisfying that SL is better off free of them. The other night I happened to be hanging in the sky in an IM and some guy asked me if he could shoot me. He was testing some weapon and he wanted to shoot me out of the sky. I said no. I just find it annoying to be shot. I don't like being shot because I didn't chose to be in a war game. I'm glad that guy at least asked first.

Im guessing "pushing or shoving" it put in there to cover 'push' scripts and shoving is in there to cover "shoving someone with an object or other means". It is not referring to a single accidental bump of your AV into another. Your single bump doesnt "singularly or persistently target another resident", unless you are bumping them over and over.

I wouldn't eliminate pushing from the game but I REALLY want a "no-push" option built into SL's preferences so I could be immune if I wanted to be. I have an inventory full of user created "no-push" scripts but they're not fool-proof and they make my AV act wonky sometimes.

I thought that was due to a chemical imbalance? jk!

If "chemical imbalance" means "Chardonnay" then yes!

no matter how well the ToS or CS could be written, which would take tomes of info, there's always going to be people searching for a loophole. The only answer is, assuming we are all adults, take responsibilty for your actions, practice curtesy and common sense.

It's obvious that a accidental bump is just that, accidental. Im sure situations of those being abuse reported they are looked t and no action taken.

The worst I see is someone getting slammed, shot off world or whatever then coming back and retaliating, then they end up reported themselves. Its wrong but its al;so within the ToS or CS. I simply report the abuse initilly and say no more about it. This saves me from doing anything wrong and usually pisses off the person innitiating the abuse because let's face it, they do it for attention

I don't think he has too much to worry about, Clubs are getting bombed all the time and they're getting off with a warning lol.

I wouldnt know I avoid clubs like the plague , Im not a lag masochist

clubs need to be bombed, caz thay are stupid i bomb them all the time HA

We will be hearing from Caitlyn when she gets banned for "just bumping into someone OMFG it's so ridiculous how strict the lindens are cause they ban you for 30 years just cause I bumping into someone and apologized to them this teh suxxorz"

ha dont flatter ur self bish

oh boi

may be sooner than we think

what just happened here?

I like bread.