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Daemioth Sklar
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01-28-2004 20:55
"Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling." --President Bush; January 23, 2004
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Eggy Lippmann
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01-28-2004 21:07
I R LEET W00T!!!!111
I R TEH PRESIDANT!!!!1111 I HAEV TEH NUCULAR WEPANZ!!!!!11111 PH33R M3 U LAYMURZ!!!!!!11 |
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Darwin Appleby
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01-28-2004 21:12
Ok, I have something to say about this. As a preface, I'm a democrat.
Bush has many, many speach writers. Let's face it, he doesn't ad-lib out there. One of them *would* tell him not to say "are" but to say "is" instead. But they leave him to say that, and they leave him to say noo-klee-er too, because it's a propaganda technique called "common folk." It's been statisticly proven that people who act smart (and therefore "better" are less likely to get elected than people who use "common folk" dialect. That is, IMO, what George Bush's writers do sometimes. When he does ad-lib, though, it shows. That said...I R PR3SID3NT I SRV3D IN ARM3D F0RS3S DIDNT U C MI FITER CLOTHES SO ELCT ME PLS DEAN IS WEERDO KTHX BTW... I WAZZ TEH SKU77 N CR0SSBNES AT Y4L3 L1K3 MI D4DDY!!11! o OMG WTF LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL _____________________
Touche.
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Garoad Kuroda
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01-28-2004 22:29
Not about to get into a long debate about this, but there are more important qualities a leader should possess than eloquent speech and charm. Aren't sometimes serial killers so successful because of the fact that they "seem" nice when they talk to you?
Clinton turned out to be a little more than people bargained for (although I think he was a pretty good president overall). Bush has faults, but I honestly don't think he's out there just to get as many innocent people as possible killed and pad his own wallet. Okie, ya'll can continya wif yer wisearse comments dere. ![]() _____________________
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS! |
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Misnomer Jones
3 is the magic number
Join date: 27 Jan 2003
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01-28-2004 22:55
"I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating."
--U.S. News & World Report, April 3, 2000 "Rarely is the question asked: is our children learning" --Florence, SC, Jan. 11, 2000 "Actually, I -- this may sound a little West Texan to you, but I like it. When I'm talking about -- when I'm talking about myself, and when he's talking about myself, all of us are talking about me." --Hardball, MSNBC, May 31, 2000 "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it." --Reuters, May 5, 2000 "I think we agree, the past is over." --On his meeting with John McCain, Dallas Morning News, May 10, 2000 "Laura and I really don't realize how bright our children is sometime until we get an objective analysis." --Meet the Press, April 15, 2000 "I was raised in the West. The west of Texas. It's pretty close to California. In more ways than Washington, D.C., is close to California." --Los Angeles Times, April 8, 2000 "We want our teachers to be trained so they can meet the obligations; their obligations as teachers. We want them to know how to teach the science of reading. In order to make sure there's not this kind of federal cufflink." --Fritsche Middle School, Milwaukee, March 30, 2000 "The fact that he relies on facts -- says things that are not factual -- are going to undermine his campaign." --New York Times, March 4, 2000 "It is not Reaganesque to support a tax plan that is Clinton in nature." --Los Angeles, Feb. 23, 2000 "I understand small business growth. I was one." --New York Daily News, Feb. 19, 2000 "How do you know if you don't measure if you have a system that simply suckles kids through?" --Explaining the need for educational accountability, Beaufort, S.C.,Feb.16, 2000 "The senator has got to understand if he's going to have he can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road." --To reporters in Florence, S.C., Feb. 17, 2000 "If you're sick and tired of the politics of cynicism and polls and principles, come and join this campaign." --Hilton Head, S.C., Feb. 16, 2000 "We ought to make the pie higher." -South Carolina Republican Debate, Feb. 15, 2000 "I've changed my style somewhat, as you know. I'm less, I pontificate less, although it may be hard to tell it from this show. And I'm more interacting with people." --Meet The Press, Feb. 13, 2000 "I think we need not only to eliminate the tollbooth to the middle class, I think we should knock down the tollbooth." --Nashua, N.H., as quoted by Gail Collins, New York Times, Feb. 1, 2000 "The most important job is not to be governor, or first lady in my case." --Pella, Iowa, as quoted in the San Antonio Express News, Jan. 30, 2000" "This is Preservation Month. I appreciate preservation. It's what you do when you run for president. You gotta preserve." --Speaking during Perseverance Month at Fairgrounds Elementary School in Nashua, N.H. "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." --Greater Nashua, N.H., Chamber of Commerce, Jan. 27, 2000 "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --At a South Carolina oyster roast; quoted in the Financial Times, Jan.14, 2000 "There needs to be debates, like we're going through. There needs to be townhall meetings. There needs to be travel. This is a huge country." --Larry King Live, Dec. 16, 1999 "The important question is, How many hands have I shaked?" --Answering a question about why he hasn't spent more time in New Hampshire; quoted in the New York Times, Oct. 23, 1999 "Keep good relations with the Grecians." --Quoted in the Economist, June 12, 1999 "When it is all said and done, I will have made more money than I ever dreamed I would make." --Source & Date unknown (please email us the source if you know) "I don't remember debates. I don't think we spent a lot of time debating it. Maybe we did, but I don't remember." --On discussing the Vietnam War as an undergraduate at Yale, in the Washington Post, July 27, 1999 "Put the 'off' button on." --South Carolina, February 14, 2000 "I did denounce it. I de-I denounced it. I denounced interracial dating. I denounced anti-Catholic bigacy... bigotry." --Referring to his Bob Jones University visit and the subsequent criticism, Virginia, February 25, 2000 "We believe in opportunity for all Americans: Rich and poor, black and white...." --From a speech at Bob Jones Univ., in South Carolina, 2/2/00 "We must all hear the universal call to like your neighbor just like you like to be liked yourself." --George W. Bush puts an interesting twist on Jesus Christ's proverb: "Love thy neighbor." (Quote is from the Financial Times) "I would have said yes to abortion if only it was right. I mean, yeah it's right. Well no it's not right that's why I said no to it." --South Carolina, February 14,2000 "My [tax cut] plan is realistic because it avoids meaningless 15-year projections." --George W. Bush goes to extraordinary lengths to defend his tax cut plan. (Quote is from a Bush speech in Iowa, 12/1/99) "The fundamental question is: 'Will I be a successful president when it comes to foreign policy?' I will be, but until I'm the president, it's going to be hard for me to verify that I think I'll be more effective." --New York Times, 7/28/99 "There ought to be limits to freedom" --at a Press conference at the Texas State House, May 21, 1999, referring to GWBush.com "We have struggle to not proceed but to preceed to the future of a nation's child." --Journal Gazette 11/12/00 "My opponent seems to think that Social Security is a federal program. I believe that money is yours and you should be able to invest it yourself." -The final Presidential debate "Down in Washington they're playing with Social Security like it's some kind of government program!" -NBC Nightly News (Date unknown, anyone out there know?) "The reason we start a war is to fight a war, win a war, thereby causing no more war!" --The first Presidential debate "They said, 'You know, this issue doesn't seem to resignate [sic] with the people.' And I said, you know something? Whether it resignates [sic] or not doesn't matter to me, because I stand for doing what's the right thing, and what the right thing is hearing the voices of people who work. --Portland, Ore., Oct. 31, 2000 "It's your money. You paid for it." --LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000 "It's important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet. -Arlington Heights, Ill., Oct. 24, 2000 "If affirmative action means what I just described, what I'm for, then I'm for it." --The Presidential Debates. St. Louis, Mo., October 18, 2000 "It's going to require numerous IRA agents." --On Gore's tax plan, Greensboro, N.C., Oct. 10, 2000 "I don't think we need to be subliminable [sic] about the differences between our views on prescription drugs." --Orlando, Fla., Sept. 12, 2000. He then repeatedly mispronounced the word after his press conference. "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully" --Saginaw, Mich., Sept. 29, 2000 "Will the highways on the Internet become more few?" --Concord, N.H., Jan. 29, 2000 "It is clear our nation is reliant upon big foreign oil. More and more of our imports come from overseas." --Beaverton, Ore., Sep. 25, 2000 "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier...just as long as I'm the dictator..." --Washington, DC, Dec 18, 2000, during his first trip to Washington as President-Elect "They misunderestimated me." --Bentonville, Ark., Nov. 6, 2000 "That's a chapter, the last chapter of the 20th, 20th, the 21st century that most of us would rather forget. The last chapter of the 20th century. This is the first chapter of the 21st century." --On the Lewinsky scandal, Arlington Heights, Ill., Oct. 24, 2000" "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." —LaCrosse, Wis., Oct. 18, 2000" "There's a huge trust. I see it all the time when people come up to me and say, 'I don't want you to let me down again.'" — Boston, Massachusetts, October 3, 2000 "I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions. I can't answer your question" --Reynoldsburg, Ohio, October 4, 2000 "You teach a child to read and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test." --February 21, 2001 - President Bush at Townsend Elementary School, touting his education reform plans. _____________________
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Misnomer Jones
3 is the magic number
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01-28-2004 22:59
and lets not forget this classic
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Garoad Kuroda
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01-28-2004 23:06
Yeah that's pretty bad, like I said I'm not going to run to anyone's defense in a pointless debate. Those are out of context though, so we don't know how many were just slips of the tounge.
But.. http://www.gargaro.com/algore.html (Too long to post it all here) Edit: added first paragraph _____________________
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS! |
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
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01-28-2004 23:10
Ah, for a president with an IQ 2 points higher than a rock. Wait, we got one of those.
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Zana Feaver
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01-29-2004 06:34
Yeah ok -- Bush is allowed a few slips of the tongue -- but messing up verb aggreement is just, well, wrong. I'm sorry, I teach English. No one should be able to graduate from college if they don't understand that one uses "are" when speaking of plural things and "is" when speaking of singular. It's not, imho, really "common folk speak" to mess that one up -- not many people actually make that mistake regularly unless they are a) not paying attention or b) honestly don't understand the difference. I teach basic reading, these are the kids who got below a 15 on the ACT in that subject and they don't mess this up very often unless they are writing. Yes, they do mess it up in writing, but not when they are speaking. I know I'm not the "average" voter, but at the same time, I just think that screwing up "to be" verb agreement is not a common "southern dialect" thing nor is it a "common folk" speaking thing. It's just, well, not being aware of the difference when one speaks. I don't want to get into a debate with anyone either -- but I just have to say that I can understand mispronouncing or using the wrong word occasionally but I can't understand messing up such a simple language rule as verb agreement. Just me.
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Beryl Greenacre
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01-29-2004 07:21
Ha, thanks, Misnomer, for all the lovely quotes from Shrub; it makes me want to run right out to this site and buy stuff.
My husband actually said a few days ago that if Bush gets re-elected, he would seriously consider getting his PEngr (Canadian professional engineer's license) and moving up to B.C. |
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Devlin Gallant
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01-29-2004 07:45
not many people actually make that mistake regularly unless they are a) not paying attention or b) honestly don't understand the difference You left out c) from Texas. _____________________
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Oz Spade
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01-29-2004 07:52
"Duuuhhh uuuuhh duuuhh, hey patrick guess what I am?!"
"Uhh, stupid?" "No! Texas!" "Whats the difference?" "Ahehehaheahehaheah" Spongebob Rocks ![]() Btw if you're from texas I'm sorry, but thats funny stuff there ^. If it was about Ohio, I'd laugh. ![]() _____________________
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Zana Feaver
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01-29-2004 08:51
I can't really bash Texans, man, I'm from Arkansas and we have an even worse reputation. Maybe I could say "and graduated from Yale with a C average because his daddy has a lot of money?" Oh lord. I am going to hell, aren't I?
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Misnomer Jones
3 is the magic number
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01-29-2004 13:18
My husband actually said a few days ago that if Bush gets re-elected Just make sure he votes. Zana, I have to ask. After "The Simple Life" , do folks from Arkansas think all Californians are that lame? I sure hope not. Though born and bred Californian, I have roots in Arkansas and family on the Coal Miners Memorial. _____________________
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Zana Feaver
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01-29-2004 14:45
haha, ah The Simple Life. No, we don't think all Californians are lame, just Paris Hilton and er, what's her name? Michelle Ritchy? I mean, those girls really know how to make fools of themselves don't they? Mostly we're just glad it's the Californians who look like fools on the show and the Arkansans actually look normal and decent. It's reversal of all the hilbilly crap we've put up with for years, so that's a good thing
. That show was filmed just 20 miles from where I live, btw. I may be in a background shot and not even know it . Zana _____________________
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Misnomer Jones
3 is the magic number
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01-29-2004 15:05
MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George W. Bush I think we all agree, the past is over. This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses. Rarely is the question asked Is our children learning? Will the highways of the Internet become more few? How many hands have I shaked? They misunderestimate me. I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity. I know that the human being and the fish can coexist. Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream. Put food on your family! Knock down the tollbooth! Vulcanize society! Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher! _____________________
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Zana Feaver
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01-29-2004 15:58
would you be at all offended if I happened to spam some friends of mine with this misnomer? Its kinda brilliant.
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Misnomer Jones
3 is the magic number
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01-29-2004 16:14
Go for it. I didnt write it. I picked it up off of snopes while looking for something else (see the link). Whoever wrote it did a great job... oh wait, I mean whoever
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Teeny Leviathan
Never started World War 3
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01-29-2004 16:27
You folks need to leave Dubya alone. He's still suffering from Pretzel Trauma.
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Garoad Kuroda
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01-29-2004 16:45
Well, if we're going to condemn all southerners for using not-so-perfect English, um okay... But I don't think that makes you automatically stupid.
I'd rather have that "stupid" southerner watching my back in a dangerous situation than a smooth talking hippie anyway. The pretzel thing is an example of the kind of crap he gets because some people apparently want to make him look bad. That could happen to anyone at any time. Was that really an important enough issue that it had to make as big a news story as it did? My other concerns with text quotes like this are that it wouldn't be hard to make it look like a bad sentence in text when what really happened was more like a "change of wording" in mid sentence. And Bush does that ALOT. In fact, often times his "sound" is quoted, rather than what he was actually trying to say, leaving in things like stutters or obvious mid-sentence word changes. He has very bad public speaking habits. Some things maybe could be attributed to the "Texas speech", and yeah, some to stupid mistakes.Hasn't anyone here made any speeches or anything before? It's not always easy...and I'm only thinking about discussing specific topics. He has to be able to speak about ANY topic, instantly. I'm not the biggest fan of Bush; I disagree with him on quite a few things, but if I'm the only one here that doesn't think he has ruined the country, oh well. I just don't like all the double standards and blatant partisanship we see all over the place. _____________________
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS! |
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Devlin Gallant
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01-29-2004 19:24
Texans ain't southerners, they is WESTERNERS!
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Teeny Leviathan
Never started World War 3
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01-29-2004 19:29
I could overlook minor missteps in his speech patterns if he wasn't so damn arrogant.
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Garoad Kuroda
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01-30-2004 00:32
Southerners, Westerners, Texans...well I think they're all different!
But Southerners are pretty similar to Texans...I think.... eh who cares lolMaybe he's arrogant, I dunno. The way I mostly read it is just "being tough". Like a no-tolerance policy, doesn't take crap from "trouble-makers", show no signs of weakness, that sort of thing. _____________________
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS! |
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Selador Cellardoor
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01-30-2004 03:25
<< He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road.>>
Actually, I think this one's rather good; I wish I'd said it. ![]() |
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Zana Feaver
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01-30-2004 04:09
But Southerners are pretty similar to Texans...I think.... eh who cares lol For shame! Southerners are not Texans! Texans are a whole a whole other country! Southerners don't wear cowboy boots as often, nor do they generally sport anything resembling a bolo tie! You can't find a single mint julep in the whole of Texas! . And yes, Arkansas is the south. It really is. It's not Midwestern. It's really not. Durn it, ya'll!!! (insert big toothy evil grin here) . Zana _____________________
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