Formal Warnings

In my opinion the forums should be a medium to discuss ideas. When the people within a discussion cross the line from idea exchange into personal attacks or even personalities, it's time for a moderator to end it. I've seen many good threads derailed due to the highjacking tactics of those who either dislike the person who started the thread, or dislike the topic. Once the disruptor gets the thread off track it's nearly impossible to get back.

I don't know about this case and I didn't investigate it, but from what I have heard here this was a clear case of the moderator doing the job correctly. What is the point of naming people? I don't think it furthers one's argument.

It's human nature to react to a personal attack. It becomes tit for tat, no one wins. If we stick to discussing the ideas things actually can get better.

Of course this is just my opinion, and I don't claim to be an authority.

Eggy while the quote may have been dead on and richly deserved in the minds of many of us, it was still crowing, and not very pretty. I was a bit surprised when I saw it, as I know that Ulrika isn't the gloating type. The person it was aimed at has a singular talent for bringing out the ugly in the nicest and most balanced thinkers amongst us. I myself regret a few of the nastier responses I wrote. We should have sat back and realized that they were very likely perceiving things that most of us did not, alliances and situations that are, in fact, not there, for the most part. If there was finally a conspiracy of any sort, it was more akin to circling the collective wagons in order to fend off constant attacks.
I am hoping that without the distraction of the forum, they might still put their considerable talents to something constructive in world, rather than nursing bitterness over something they brought down upon themselves.

I am the gloating type, actually.

However, in my post, I wasn't gloating rather I was truly expressing my relief at the permabanning of a negative and stifling force in the forums. I finally feel like I can post my investigative social and economic threads again. I stopped after the regressive-land-tier thread where Prokofy crippled it by dumping a heap of "just pushing back" onto it.

Huzzah! Freedom at last!

~Ulrika~

You know what? If I knew you had a friend, and he was gone, I wouldn't be gloating all over you about it. Or trash-talking him till the end of time and probably beyond.

Apparently you don't realize that when you hurt him, you hurt more than one person.

If we were in high school, and I was in the room, would you be carring on like this in front of me after my friend got expelled?

I don't think so. And I really don't see how you can do it now.

It is, however, extra evidence to me that you don't care about me, or about anyone else. You don't care one bit for my feelings, or anyone else's who don't match yours.

In fact, I doubt you will even be able to figure out what I'm talking about.

You don't even know how to win graciously.

You meaning all of you who do this, which sends me a very clear message that you care not one whit for anyone else that isn't in your little group, who doesn't think exactly as you do, and doesn't feel exactly as you do.

"Ding dong, the witch is dead!" What if the witch had friends?

You don't really give a damn about my feelings, do you. You'd treat a dog better.

coco

P.S. Is there anything else that you can do to make it clear that I and any others like me just don't count?

Do you plan to keep ON making this clear throughout perputuity?

Are you EVER nice?

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Chuck, are you applying for a job at Linden Lab or something?

Actually, I think Chuck makes an exceptionally well-stated point.

Chuck is correct.

coco

Speaking of Chuck Beckett's post, "Ulrika Zugzwang" can no longer be pulled up under "Find/People" inworld. She is not listed under "Zugzwang", either. Her name is no longer among the officers of the various N-burg groups, although she is listed as founder. Her name can be pulled up in the forum search, however.

So... what happened?

See...it's happening already. The closed mouth, watchdog, paranoid society were folks are afriad to bring forth ideas, creative thinking, or express themselves in ways not in line with the establishment.

Now we will have eager forums narcs spilling through the threads, wringing their hands in glee at the chance to wield power by reporting any violations, no matter how small, making themselves bloated with self-important satisfaction.

In the meantime, the LL forum mods will have an even larger headache, while nothing is really accomplished other than to piss off a larger number of people, and help kill the openess that at one time drew so many to the world of Second Life.

Be good little drones, because your neighbor might report you and you might dissappear in the middle of the night...


Or..I could be full of shit and just having fun...

That is strange about Ulrika. I hope she hasn't been banned.

This is very distressing. This is why I don't think forum behavior should be tied to game behavior.

coco

I can find her via find.. so... in game..

I just pulled up Ulrika's profile in-world, so it would appear that this is a false alarm.

Seth, are you sure you don't have the little "online" button checked while doing the People search? I make that mistake sometimes after I've re-installed the SL client.

I can't speak for Seth, but she wasn't showing in find yesterday, online or not. Maybe it was a glitch.

Man. Ulrika is so lucky. Next time she replies to this thread, she has a shot to say a very famous Mark Twain quote.

Well, I guess my suggestion wouldn't have accounted for her not showing up in the Neualtenburg group lists, either, so I should have thought out my post better before making it.

And that's a really good point, Enebran...

I know this has happened before when there have billing problems, so let's home its that, and nothing more.

Regards,

-Flip

I'm not sure if that's the quote you were looking for but it seems fitting enough.

The temporary suspension (and recent restoration) of my account is due to a strange billing snafu and is unrelated to my formal warning or this thread. I have an email in to support to see if they can help make sense of the problem.

In short, while I battle one arm of the octopus for an unjust warning, I'm asking another arm for help with billing difficulties.

~Ulrika~

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forgive my confusion, but don't you mean "to the forum of Second"?

Actually, I was going for something a little more pedestrian:

"Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

Damn, Ulrika, this has to be good for you. It's almost like being able to attend your own funeral!

I told you all a long time ago that Ulrika is undead. Nobody believed me!

I still had her calling card - useless to try to delete the thing - so I knew it was too much to hope for.