Psyke Phaeton's Security Script

Ok, from what I've read, I'm not the only one who has had problems with this annoying bad script. So far, I've seen this script used to effictively ban someone from a property without having any rights to the property, or any need to actually rez the item. It also infringes property lines. Just now, I'm relaxing with my mate inside my home, when suddenly I get thrown to the second floor of my house with a message from the security script, which is on the other side of the road, owned by someone else, on a 3 parcels away. This script is a menace, and needs to be fixed, or destroyed. I'm sick of paying $25+/month just to deal with shit like this on a regular basis. I've filed on abuse report relating to it already, and will continue to report abusers.

The items is:

HomeSecurity v2.15g (C) 2004 Psyke Phaeton

someone please either help this asshat fix it, or get rid of it all together and learn how to use access/ban lists which are built into the frecking property.

That sounds like a bad script on steriods, imagine if that script were to cover an entire sim or 20. No need for a script like that with built in ban and admit features on owned land. I hope they fix it soon for you, sounds annoying.

It's not the script, it's your neighbor...

You neighbor did not properly configure the security device, and the result is what you currently see. The land banning tools do not provide enough functions to properly secure a land parcel. You will discover this in due time.

If this security device over extends your neighbors land, that is against the TOS, and should be reported. The Lindens will deal with the situation swiftly.

Another comment without knowing how these items work, or why they were created in the first place. These items were created to patch the holes in the land tools that were left wide open concerning security...

BTW, that device you speak of can only cover 96 meters. That person running the script did not configure it properly, and should be held accountable for it, not the creator...

Welcome to Second Life...

and the ones who wear it on their body so they don't have to rez it, and go around griefing with it? This script has too big of a potential for abuse. The author needs to go back in, and set it up so it only works on property owned by the person who activated the script. Dun flame me for being right pal, not my fault is people are newbies and don't know how to set shit up. The bottom line, if it can be abused it will be...remove it before it is.

Here here.. *claps hands* 100% correct!

Just about every script can be abused and used for griefing...so we should ban them all? No, just because someone missuses or abuses a script doesn't mean that the person who made it should be punished. You aren't right and you weren't being flamed...believe me you will know when that happens....

Talens right! You will definitely know when you are being flamed...especially with comments like "Dun flame me for being right pal, not my fault is people are newbies and don't know how to set shit up".

And according to your account your a newb too right? (Guest)

The script should use an llOverMyLand() call to see whether the agent it is pushing is actually over the person's land. I wrote a security script earlier this year, and I built that in as a check.

The security device in question has something like that built in already. The owner apparently chose NOT to configure it for his land only. If this setting causes you to get kicked from your land, I would contact a Linden and file an abuse report...

Has anyone approached the property owner? It's o.k. to talk to neighbors here in SL

Yes something should be done if someone is preventing you from using your own property.
That much is true.
BUT.
Its the USER of the car that hit the taco bell dog, not the shareholders of ford.


Ive been looking at some posts tonite and hafto say this one is the most distressing so far.
this quote can be kind of translated into....
if( (1 + 1) = 2) RemoveIt.

IF your chatting can be abusive depending on what you chose to type, regardless of PG or M, we should remove chat all together and simply use a set of predefined messages, Like in toontown.

IF Your script to write your name in particles causes my computer to render at a slow fps, It should not be allowd, so lets remove particles to.

IF your avatar can bump my avatar, weather intentional or not, We should simply remove physics, or perhaps make a safezone around avatars, say 3m maby? where no other avatar can in any way interact with your avatar inside that area.

screw spelling im tired.

I can rez a box and whack someone with it by moving it...

I guess we can apply that logic here and start removing all items that can be rezed by an avatar. Tomorrow, we can turn off the ability to move those items and stop alot of potential grief. Those textures and sounds everyone displays is quite annoying as well. We should probably take care of those potential griefing tools now, before they cause future problems

I think the problem is a whole different one. It´s lack of privacy in Second Life as a whole!
People use this Security script to find some peace. Some people have real stalker problems in SL.
Even if u delete the calling cards of a stalker...he or she will find a way to stalk you and steal your time.
So, what do u do to have some peace on your land? Ban the person? Well...ban works only at certain altitudes....effective on the ground...a few meters above it´s not.
...so people try to get more effective security for their land, and there is obviously a market for it.
Some people may not properly set these tools..and might eventually get in conflict with the TOS and so on. BUT...I think it´s more important to adress the source of all this. Give people more privacy in SL.
It shouldn´t be possible at all that you can be stalked in SL. There should be no way to track people down in SL if they want to have privacy.

Look, there are times/places in SL where one might prefer a bit of privacy or at least the opportunity to choose with whom one interacts with, but this should be acheived without infringing upon other's rights to enjoy their SL time as well, certainly.

My pet peeve is folks that just walk into a house or apartment without even so much as a "hello" or knock knock in chat. The worst being those that stick around after it's been made clear that they're barging in, and this sort of behavior has made me want to consider some sort of security system. The problem is, I'm in a rented apartment and how can one "control" access for my unit only without interfering with the units above and below?

Of course, if SL residents were to exhibit better manners than one sees out in the RW (HA!) that would eliminate the need for these devices.

So, those of you that have security devices activated are responsible for it's effects, and need to be sure about the settings used. Those of you coding these handy devices of course need to be sure that they can be set for appropriate use. And to those of you who don't know how to knock ... I don't have a security system set up, but I do have a handy array of push guns, cagers and such, and I'm not afraid to use them ...

Oh, and Dom, I'm with you, an "invisible" mode or selectively visible mode would be great. "Busy" doesn't quite cover it. There are times when I would like to be available to say 5 or 6 of my calling card buddies, but not to be disturbed by the general public, or maybe there's a few specific folks that I don't care to interact with (stalkers, etc.) at all in a way that mute isn't quite enough to cover either. Lindens, can you help us out?

I think it might prevent a lot people to use the Psyche home security system (or other systems) if there was more privacy implemented in SL. It just shouldn´t be possible to track other SL residents down when they don´t want that (a privacy mode or somehting).
This has never been an issue in other VR communities. Really ask myself why there´s a PG/adult system on one hand but no privacy on the other?
Is there already a poll on that topic? More Privacy implemented in SL yes or no?

If applying a push outside the boundaries of the script owners land is a violation of the Terms of Service then what is the justification for the option to do so being in the script?

Exactly, if the author of the script is not to be held responsible for the misuse of her script, i still don't see ANY reason to leave the option to grief out of the user's land limits configurable. It's like putting an option that reads like "Do you want to use this script for griefing? Yes/No".
if you want to make a security script at the very least write it on the safe side, coding out the griefing possibilities.

Hear Hear. These features already exist in most IM apps. It should be relatively simple to implement.

Because If the land you own is next to a sim boundary llOverMyLand does NOT work properly.

Also the script is not always used under those exact circumstances, What if the land your controlling for whatever reason is Not owned by you but by someone else or an alt.

Also group owned land is abit different to,

Oh please who would want to stalk you, (edited)

Wow Rhiannon,

I think you should let this go already.. I think the issue here is about security scripts not personal attacks to x-boyfriends. While your personal life is none of my business. It is my business when you come to my club and disturb others who are there simply there to have a good time. Wish you the best.

As for security scripts, I'm sure it can be a pain on mainland when flying from point A to point B. I use them on my private sims simply to keep people out of our group area projects while we work.

I agree 100% Foxy. I will not even comment any further on this. The forum is not the place for personal attacks.

I have edited out the personal attacks in this thread. Please refrain from personally attacking those you disagree with in the forums. Thank you.

1. the script is sold by default with conservative settings including it being limited to the current land parcel only.

2. guns dont kill people, people do.

3. my script only exists because SL privacy sux.

4. my script warns the attacked for the very reason of allowing the attacked to report abuse.

There are far more sensible and relieved HomeSecurity users than inconsiderate griefers.

Psyke.

I honestly don't see any reason to even ALLOW changing it so that it acts even out of someone's land. I'm very curious on this, why would i have to use such a script outside of my parcel for any reason different than griefing?