Who are the Lindens protecting?

He held an event last week that was supposed to be an infosession on Asperger's Syndrome, where he announced it pretty openly and all that. I don't think I was disclosing any information that could have been obtained by any other means (for example, looking at the events listing would show this information, but who does that kind of research?) Anyway... I don't think I was disclosing anything inappropriately in this case.

Whatever disability is there, it should not be an issue. If someone is banned from the game it would be because of their aggressively rude behaviour. And what's going on with Tcoz stems from that.

The time for compromise and reason was before the jackass signs, bans, and so forth started. I remind you that nobody ever approached me to ask, "what's up" before this started.

Now after these people realize there is nothing they can do to coerce me, they start playing sweet with Lindens to get what they want, and I'm coming to believe that they eventually will. And their end of the bargain, their compromise, will be, "well, we'll agree to stop breaking the rules and leave him alone...if we get what we want".

So, they'll essentially get control of my land, and I'll have to ask permission every time I want to make a change, and if they don't like it, I'll have to undo it or this will all start all over again.

F that. Regarding stepping away...taking a break...stopping playing for a while...wtf am I paying for? I've done nothing wrong. WHY should I endure this?

because life isn't fair.

having a tantrum about that isn't going help much.

however, calming down, and working to find a compromise might get you what you want.

even if life is unfair.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but do ALL of the people that have been harrassing Tcoz have aspberger's or some other forum of autism?

Maybe you're concentrating your abuse reports on the wrong person, Tcoz.

Last I heard, group-negging was supposed to be against the ToS, too.

So is playing the game in a way that hinders another's enjoyment of the game, if I'm not mistaken. Nebulous statement, though.

LF

His, I understand what you are saying. But I've heard that before, and reject it as being spineless. Sometimes you have to pick your battles, and I pick this one.

People have said, "why don't you move", "why don't you do what they want".

F that.

And to offer some recipicrocal advice, this is the rant forum. You don't want to see people ranting, well, it's obvious where you shouldn't be.

Let's stick to the point; these people were allowed to get away with clear violations to the ToS, and now have the Lindens trying to persuade me to give in to them. You call it compromise, I call it capitulation. If we were both breaking the rules I would see your point.

BTW to see the evolution of this, stop by the new Mt. Natoma, in Natoma.

Oh cool, SL needs more mountains.

Heheh, sorry, couldn't resist.

Sounds like favoritism to me. Tcoz has been there longer than anybody else in Natoma, and relatively new folks are trying to force him to remake his land th THEIR satisfaction. If they didn't like his hill why the hell did they move in in the first place. And, now the lindens are trying to get TCoz to comply with the newcomers vision? Something smacks of collusion here. I sincerely hope this has nothing to do with the fact that TCoz was once a member of Tyrell Corp, and lingering feelings. I always hate it when there seems to be a hint of favoritism by the Lindens for some players over others.

Welp, they're at it again. The jackass signs are back, and they've raised the walls up to the stratosphere to make sure the griefing continues.

Here's a sample:

http://www.getingame.com/sweet_grief.jpg

What's funny now is, these people are using a HUGE number of primitives to continue griefing me. It's costing them RL money to do this.

Regarding the abuse reports, they were either told:

- Stop it (and they are ignoring the Lindens directive, and being allowed to get away with it).

- You're not supposed to but eh we won't really do anything about it.

- Keep doing it maybe you'll get him to move or force him to do what you want.

I told the Lindens clearly that if they want to broker a deal on their behalf, considering the griefing that they resorted to, then I want to see gestures of good will on their part FIRST before I offer any consideration. Take down the walls, drop the bans, something. No such gesture was ever offered, and I've logged in every day hoping to see some such. I do not consider keeping the walls there but altering the textures to qualify, as the walls serve no other purpose other than to stick it to me.

Sweetheart B. told me, "Jackass is a movie...there's nothing wrong with it".

Take a look at the above screenshot and see if you think that explanation holds any water.

OMG and get this...on their access lists, there's Glyth Stryker, so his actions are fine with them...AND, Sweetheart B. put her land up for sale with the note, "very terraformable!". What happened to respect your surroundings and so on? She'll sell it to the first person with the cash regardless of what they want to do with it.

What hypocrisy.

If the Lindens DON'T do something about the harrassment that tells me something underhanded MUST be going on.

the point, devlin, is that it doesn't matter that something underhanded is going on. any idiot can see that it is. but there's nothing we can do about it. ll management allows the employees to cater to their favourites; that's how second life has worked at least since november, 2003.

if you want to be on their good list, you have to play by their unwritten rules. they own the world.

Oh.

I stopped by to take a look and you are being griefed. Movie my arse, there is no reason for her to float an object at that height with the words Jackass pointed in your direction, other than to simply be ((self-censored comments to keep in line with TOS))

You have my sympaties and I hope this gets taken care of in your favour... and quicly.


You have a beautiful house there, but have you considered, putting it into the clouds, lowering the land, and then going redbeck on them?

Ya know, fill the land with half-built cars up on blocks, a toothless AV playing the Banjo on the porch of a wooden shack... oh, and loop that music so they can hear it day and night... Then have the Hatfields and the McCoy's run around the property every hour shooting off shotguns at each other.

THAT would be cool.

Would it help if other players came by and filed reports? Maybe if more people came and took snapshots of this, they'd see how offensive it is to a lot of people not just Tcoz? I'd think a complaint like this won't get ignored for long if enough noise is generated.

I have already done that, tho now I have to go back and neg the build rate for the jackass sign.

Asperger's is no excuse to be an ASS. My brother has severe Asperger's, and he's one of the nicest, most intelligent people you will ever meet..

I was reading through the Community Standards (http://secondlife.com/corporate/community.php), looking for info on Turrets, and it seems pretty much everything thats happened is against the CS.

More specificly:



And



And also the TOS has been violated regarding threats upon yourself (http://secondlife.com/corporate/terms.php)... more specificly under "5. USER CONDUCT" rule "5.1 Participant Conduct."

*shrugs* I was bored.

Oh piffle. The ADA doesn't have much to do with this. And even if it did, the ADA doesn't make allowances to *anyone* to be a jerk. (I don't know either party here. I'm speaking in generalities.)


"1) Daemioth, I assume that Glyth Stryker gave you permission to disclose his/her disability in a public forum? Written permission, I hope? If not, you could be held in violation of the law."

The ADA doesn't say any such thing. Disclosure relates to employer/employee relations, landlord/tenant relations and the like. Here, the regular laws of speech apply. If something libelous was said, the hurt person can bring on a lawsuit. Otherwise, the law doesn't guarantee your right to go through life unoffended.

"2) Every argument against extending accomodations to disabled persons made on this thread has already been struck down by federal courts, and big fines have resulted -- including the "what if I wear glasses" and "what if I'm a disembodied head in a jar" arguments. The law is both well-defined and deliberately nebulous in terms of who and what is covered -- and that makes it a potent and unpredictable force. "

Who's talking accomodations? Unless I'm wrong, there's no disability on god's green earth that renders someone a jerk. Therefore, no accomodations need be made to make a jerk feel at home.

Then have the Hatfields and the McCoy's run around the property every hour shooting off shotguns at each other.

THAT would be cool. [/B][/QUOTE]

As a member of the Hatfield clan (really!), I have to say that the best way is to 'Hatfield' them and take a potshot at their brand new corvette when their not at home and throw a pig carcass into their crawlspace when nobody's lookin. But those were the 70s and such things may not be tolerable anymore.

Yes this is the 2ks...crawlspaces are intolerable nowadays.

I went over there the other night. What's with the tomatoes? Are they tomato lovers? o.0

But who'd buy that land? It's all jacked up with the ridiculous terraforming. Was that place originally a mountain or was it as low as it is now? There should be a disclaimer when selling that property.

CAUTION: Costs a lot. Looks like sh1t.

There used to be a rather nice hill there. TCoz lived on it. Then 'folks' moved in, flattened the land around Tcoz, leaving him on something of a pinnacle. They decided they didn't like that so tried to get him to change it, and started harrassing him when he wouldn't. They raised walls up to his level, and used land bans all around his place. To get above the land bans he was forced to raise his pinnacle even higher. So, of course they raised their signs even higher. And, because either one or both of them are on one of the Lindens favorites lists, (or because TCoz is on a s**t list), they are freely allowed by the Lindens to harrass him.

I can't believe that anyone would think the ADA had anything to do with this - it most certainly doesn't! But YEAH on those folks who have shown such a strong understanding of what it DOES say! As someone just back from lobbying against the ADA Notification Act and other attempts to weaken the law, it makes me oh so happy to see it explained clearly and accurately!

OKay many keep Mentioning the ADA which I just want to point out a few things.

1-The ADA expressly provides that a public accommodation may exclude an individual, if that individual poses a direct threat to the health or safety of others that cannot be mitigated by appropriate modifications in the public accommodation's policies or procedures, or by the provision of auxiliary aids. A public accommodation will be permitted to establish objective safety criteria for the operation of its business; however, any safety standard must be based on objective requirements rather than stereotypes or generalizations about the ability of persons with disabilities to participate in an activity.

2- The privacy act only applies to Set force officials not every day joes (in the matter of announcing this persons Disablity). Now unless this Nameless person who threatend RL bodily harm came to the person whoever it was in the post that said what she had as a Official, he is full intitled to annouce her illness with out cause or reason.

3- And last of this person has the said forth illness which was stated um are we forgeting we have to do.. TYPE!! I would like see see some one with that disease just burst a TYPED sentence.

I my self not one to take a side in this matter being one with a mental illness that has a big stigmata attached to its name for inaccurate public reasons. But if this person does have a mental illness it does not make them a threat, it is what they do that makes them a threat for which If they choose to be medicated it lessens the threat and if not it might increase it but it is a case which no one should judge for some ones illness or use there illness as a excuse, I apply that to both the disabled and non-disabled.