My Own Little rant

As you indicate, most of this comes from people tinkering around without regard for the limitations of the system. What makes you think this will be any better with Havok 2.0? You try to break it and you will. Look at the half life editor (half life using Havok 2.0). You'll just have to push it harder is all, and people will, just like anything else. I am not optimistic about simply swapping in a new engine and seeing physics problems in SL go away when users have open access to that particular subsystem.

FYI, no less than 10 crashes today, total of maybe 2 hours online. I've been trying to put up a simple structure for over an hour and am just getting frustrated. Gave my machine the total once over...again...vid card diags, chip bios versions, the whole bit. I am up to date and can find no reported issues with any of the latest nVidia drivers that would be causing this extent of instability. I have never had this much trouble keeping SL running in 2.5ish years. Early beta was more stable. I'll be standing perfectly still, and suddenly bam. CTL ALT DEL time. Yes, the stability difference is perceived; there are 100 times more users now etc. etc. But perception, and a monthly bill in excess of 100 dollars, is all I've got on my end.

Reports? Stopped filing them, they just slow down your re-log. It's like a car alarm now. How many times will you call the cops before you just don't give a damn anymore?

/sigh. Please fix. Coupla more days of this and I'll be looking for a pro rate on my fee this month.

Yes, but it's a lot harder to accidentally crash a more fault tolerant system. Having to rez 4000 physical cubes to slow down the physics engine instead of 400 physical cubes is a big difference.



Well, then why post on the (less effective) forums? At least the crash reports get read every day.

LF

What makes you think that? Why would LL spend the time reading them when they ignore them?

Aside from the fact that the above sentence makes no sense...

Every time you send in a crash report, it gets sent off and combined into a daily "crash report manifesto". One of the gridmonkeys reads it and look for any particular pattern or reproduceable situations that they can test. From there they can further determine what to do next for the next patch or whatever. If they see that 4000 users with Windows 2000 SP1 crashing every 15 minutes, and more specifically, when they go into a telehub sim, that gives them direction on what to hunt for.

LF

Good point. Since I filed a half dozen of the damn things, and I'm willing to bet I'm not crashing for entirely different reasons every time, five or six should do the job.

Posting in the forums is a visible/vocal outlet. Crash reports get no response and we do not see this manifesto you seem to have knowledge of; some feedback on this material would be very productive (but requests for such have gone unfulfilled). We may all like to know what the most common reasons for crashing are, and see a list of prioritized issues. If they've already got it it shouldn't be difficult to print up the executive summary (which no doubt exists as well if in fact this manifesto is compiled as you indicate). After a while you get tired of dropping letters into a silent black hole.

And out of due respect to the LEGION contributors to that no doubt enormous work, I simply didn't wish to take undue page space. I mean, I'm crashing so much, it is conceivable people think I'm simply hogging an unfair share of the text in an attempt to get published.

It was crystal clear Susie. They should have spent more time correcting 1.5 issues before releasing 1.6. Now we're going to have these legacy issues that LL will expect us to just live with. My primary concern is that it doesn't appear as if the back office is speaking to the front office and the braintrust is just repeating whatever Marketing tells them to.

I'm looking at my credit card statement. I'm not dreaming. I can't imagine you'd be such a pushover for other purchases in your life. There is nothing wrong with expecting a reputable company to deliver quality product. SL generally is a quality product but they cannot keep pushing out these so-called major releases without doing some house keeping and cleaning up the small messes.

Hear hear, Bruno. There's nothing fantasy about my credit card statement or inability to stay in world for longer than 20 mins since 1.6 came out. I'd very much like to forget my troubles and enjoy the fantasy world...but can't stay online long enough to.

I'd be very interested to see how the same people would react if their cel company just stopped working, or suddenly started kicking you from calls for no reason at all, even though your connection is solid. "Oh, yes, we upgraded the firmware, there's problems, and we're on it. We'll let you know. In the meantime, try to be happy!". Yeah right, you'd take that without a 30 point spike in blood pressure.

SL is by far the most expensive service I pay for, sans health care. Pardon me if I get upset when it breaks for weeks at a time, particularly when it worked fairly well before. Many of us with jobs, if you lose a weekend (which I did due to crashing pretty much), you lose the week. I have very little time to be in SL these days and would just like to get my project underway, but the technical problems constantly derail me.