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POll Is it an abuse of power?

Is it an abuse of power for a land baron to ban any person from all their land/sims?

Yes
30 (28.8%)

NO
74 (71.2%)

Total votes: 104
Catherine Cotton
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11-24-2004 13:03
Is it an abuse of power for a land baron to ban any person from all their land/sims?

Yes
No
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Lordfly Digeridoo
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11-24-2004 13:04
no.
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Omen Torgeson
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11-24-2004 13:06
No
Chip Midnight
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11-24-2004 13:28
No. It may be annoying, but the land owner's rights are more important. Rights should be absolute, not subjective based on whether or not we approve of how someone spends their second life.
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Torley Linden
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11-24-2004 13:37
I would vote, but I find the YES/NO metric to be too binary. I'd have to see the specific example -- as with people in general, it comes down to the individual for me.
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Damien Fate
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11-24-2004 13:38
No.
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Olympia Rebus
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11-24-2004 13:47
From: Torley Torgeson
I would vote, but I find the YES/NO metric to be too binary. I'd have to see the specific example -- as with people in general, it comes down to the individual for me.


Good point. I think it does depend on the example.
If someone dislikes me and doesn't want me on his (or her) property, I don't see why they shouldn't be able to keep me out.

On the other hand, I know of at least one case where someone was fueuding with a neighbor and banned her from his land. Problem was, his land patches were checkered with (and partially encircled) her land, making it very difficult for her to get around. Maybe he was hoping she'd get fed up and move. I thought that was playing dirty.

Just my twisted 2 cents
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Darko Cellardoor
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11-24-2004 14:02
I see at as an abuse of a protected power.
Darko Cellardoor
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11-24-2004 14:11
It is an abuse of a protected power. Obviously the land owner has every right to ban but it is still abusive in nature if used in a retaliatory manner.
Darko Cellardoor
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11-24-2004 14:16
This poll will close on 12-04-2004 at 03:05 PM.

I am afraid I will no longer care on 12-04-2004 at 3:05 PM about this thread. :D
Tito Gomez
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11-24-2004 14:24
We should ban Darko, though. He's like Johnny Appleseed. Everywhere he goes he drops those wacky weed seeds, now I have yerba growing all over my land!

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Talen Morgan
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11-24-2004 14:41
No.
Reitsuki Kojima
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Join date: 27 Jan 2004
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11-24-2004 14:49
With some limited exceptions, no.

That doesn't mean its not rude, short sighted, or assanine. But it's not, strictly speaking, an abuse of power.

The one exception I can think of (And it's happened before) is if a land baron is using it as a bullying tactic... IE, "I own all the land near you, so I'm going to ban you from it and hope you get pissed and sell your land, because I want to own it as well".
Talen Morgan
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11-24-2004 14:53
Might want to start another poll asking if its an abuse of power to neg rate someones build because you don't like their practices too?
Juro Kothari
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Join date: 4 Sep 2003
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11-24-2004 15:49
No. They bought it, they own it. You don't like it, go buy a bunch of land and ban them.
Schwanson Schlegel
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11-24-2004 16:01
From: Darko Cellardoor
This poll will close on 12-04-2004 at 03:05 PM.

I am afraid I will no longer care on 12-04-2004 at 3:05 PM about this thread. :D


ROFL Darko!
Whats were we talking about?

Seriously,
I read the last thread pertaining to this. If someone decides to neg rate me, slander me on the forums, and make a wise ass comment, I would ban their asses too. WTF should they expect? A money ball and welcome mat?
So my answer is.......
NO!
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Nephilaine Protagonist
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11-24-2004 16:16
No.

It's thier land. Getting along with one's nieghbors can indeed be difficult, but its neccesary.
Most rational people will not ban someone from thier land without feeling some sort of offense from the person they are banning.
Irrational ppl may ban without cause, but since we cant put out an edict saying you can only buy land if you are rational, then your only recourse is to not pick (or remain at) a location with an irrational nieghbor.

This is assuming that there are no actually enforceable breaking of the rules otherwise present. If there are, its still thier right to ban you, and your responsibility to report it and follow it up.
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Catherine Cotton
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11-24-2004 16:17
lets stay focused on the question only folks :)

thanks and happy thanksgiving :)

Cat
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Darko Cellardoor
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11-24-2004 16:24
Haha the blues are beating the reds! :D
Pal Platini
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11-24-2004 16:27
Unfortunately the ban feature is abused & used willy-nilly. I got banned by a major landholder in my last sim, over a comment made by my partner. Fortunately, the person did have the decency to not ban me from the large parcel that I sold, which is next to my small remaining bit of land there, when I moved out.

But still, I am not a griefer in anyway & never even got into any confrontation with the person over it at all. Is no fun to get banned for no good reason, much less get orbited out of my own sim! LOL mighta been fine had the guard been set to tp me home. Really not a huge deal to me /shrug, but needlessly annoying when I'm running short of time. Disconcerting when in an area I don't know well. Overall just stupid, tho.

So YES, I definitely feel it is an abuse of power. Some peeps own land all around telehubs & entire sims.. seems like this could block normal travel around the main grid.

For true griefers, I think LL should step in quicker & more severely. Another good poll topic, tho. heh

polls are :cool:
Nolan Nash
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11-24-2004 16:28
From: Darko Cellardoor
Haha the blues are beating the reds! :D



The gap seems to be steadily narrowing though...
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Jonquille Noir
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11-24-2004 16:57
Petty? Yes.

An abuse of power? No.
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11-24-2004 17:05
Because it is/isn't against the rules doesn't have anything to do with whether or not it's abusive.
Torley Linden
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11-24-2004 17:09
From: Tito Gomez
We should ban Darko, though. He's like Johnny Appleseed. Everywhere he goes he drops those wacky weed seeds, now I have yerba growing all over my land!

- T -


HAHAHA...

*imagines Darko with a pot on his head -- er, the OTHER KIND OF POT.*

Darko = Johnny Weedseed. I mean that in the best of ways. :)
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Darko Cellardoor
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11-24-2004 17:27
I am glad you found that amuzing you sexy bitch! :D

Sprinkles wacky weed seeds on Torleys land!
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