Yay, more event abuse part 2

http://secondlife.com/events/event-view.php?id=18055&date=1098169200

Description: Club Velocity, one of the HOTTEST clubs in SL, is now hiring talented Dancers/Escorts. Come down to the event for more information and an interview!! Guys and Gals needed. See you there!
Hosted By: Jules Craven
Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:00PM
Time: 5:00PM - 6:00PM (60 minutes)
Category: General Fun
Cover Charge? No
Location: Raiden (186, 75)
Linden Support Requested: Yes


status: reported to Lindens.

Whats wrong with this one?

The fact that its more of an advertisement?

That's it!

I'm hiring Hiro to dance at MY bachelor party. And no, you're NOT invited!

If you reported it to the Lindens, why does it have to be in the forums too, in a seperate thread no less? We already have four threads about TVs, two about gaming dwell, and now two about events?

2 things -
- the ad
- the sex for money being advertised (escorts)

Ok, yay, deja vu. Escort != Sex for money.

I don't see anything about sex for money mentioned. Perhaps you should stick to reading the words on page and not the ones between the lines..?

OH! OH! OH! I know what he's doing! He's being paid by the thread-view to advertise the events! He actually LIKES the idea of escort services and such!

Name me ONE escort service in SL that is not sex for money.

Dictionary.com:
A person, often a prostitute, who is hired to spend time with another as a companion.

Gee, a prostitute who spends time with a person? I wonder what that could be.

Please don't play naieve. It's not like there are children who don't know what the word really means. Oh, wait, there are some children sneaking in

I fuck for free oh...I guess that would make me a slut...sorry.

Anyway this has already been adressed by Haney...if you see something in the events listings report it to a linden.

Yay for drhama and useless threads! Keep up the good work everyone! We need more of these fun weeks! It's been waaaaay too quiet in the forums for us! Now we're did I put my popcorn... I gotta pop me sum!

Anywhore, I'm an escort, but don't give out! I'll escort you anywhere you want to go, but I don't posses even one rubber falice, or other erotica related toys. Heck, I don't even have one sexual anim (but damn, I can dance)... Hell, if you ask me to lead the way, I'll escort ya straight to hell with the rest of us, ahem, escorts (j/k, no offense meant to anyone for any reason at any time, in this present/future/past post, intentionally and/or uninentionally )

OK.. .one more time. Escort does not equate to sex worker.

It *can*, but it is not always the case in RL or in SL. Please stop equating the two.




A fruit *can* be an orange. An orange is always a fruit.

Come on, Juro. Name one escort in SL who isn't a prostitute.

A SL escort is a prostitute, regardless if RL escorts don't have sex sometimes.

Sure it SAYS fruit, but you can just bet your ass it's an orange. It's gotta be, right? And oranges are just WRONG!

Hiro... I know I'm nit-picking here.. but..

I don't know all of the escorts IW. I'm sure you're right in that most of them are really just cyber-prostitutes. However, my point is that escort is not the correct term.

I just don't want us applying labels unless they are accurate.

So, since neither of us is a) an escort or b) intimiately knowledgeable about the industry, I would like to hear from IW escorts:

Have you ever been paid just to spend time with someone and NOT perform cybersex?

I love how you ignore repeated posts and say the same argument that has been dismissed, like Bush ignores underemployment and loss of healthcare and says the economy rocks.

No one is saying that SL prostitution is wrong. Using your analogy, it's the orange getting squeezed and juice stolen that's wrong.

And now this post contains innuendo. NICE!

Oranges are not wrong Kris. Oranges offer a valued service to society. Unfortunately oragnes are highly stigmatized by us. Everyone thinks oranges are dirty and slimy and are bad for you.

I say UP WITH ORANGES!!!

Hmmm.. Well, if this were a Contest or Audition for Dancers, then to me that would still qualify. If it is just a "hiring" event, then I can see where it breaks the event posting rules. It is a fine line between the two though, so really it becomes a matter of the event poster just making sure they tweak the event a little. But honestly, that's what we (err, SL wants) is for events that are listed to actually have some substance and competitions are very much encouraged. So doing it that way would change the whole of the listing in my eyes.

Also, from what I understand from reading the guidelines, the wording needs to be kept PG. I think Escort is a very PG word and personally I think it is a tasteful way to list what exactly the club is looking for. Again it is fine line though.

So I guess I'm not totally sure where I stand on this issue. I see this is a Part 2 thread, so I'll go see if I can find Part 1. It may give me some more food for thought.

99.9 % of the time escort does relate to sex worker....the only time I have found that it doesn't is when refering to a Ford Escort which we all know is a car even though it does blow.

Fuck Oranges....brought to you by the have an Apple foundation

Probably.. that's why I'm asking all escorts for thier input. Even if it was 99.9%, the label is not correct.

Maybe I'm basing this too much on RL, where I know a few escorts. Some offer the 'bonus package', and some don't. Even with the ones that do, they don't offer it every time they escort. Alot of times, they are hired strictly for company.


Boy does it ever! RIP Escort.

I'm well aware of that, thank you. I'm with the oranges, really I am. It was merely for teh funneh.

Sex is healthy and fun and if you (i dont mean you, Juro. I mean a general 'you') can make a business of doing it or even accessorising it, kudos to ya - you're doing something both healthy and fun for a living, which is more than I am!

Ahh..coulda sworn you were using this post as an example of breaking the posting rules. The word "escort" in no way breaks any event-posting rules. Whether they are prostitutes is entirely their business. If you wish to think of them as prostitutes that is great, but that doesn't make the event posting wrong.

I know Kris, mine was a funneh back.



Funny you mention that.. I did seriously consider becoming an escort at one point in my life. I had initial interviews (no, there was no sex involved) and learned all about the 'process'. In this case, there was a pool of escorts that were retained through a monthly base salary - around $1500. By entering the pool, you were bound to escort *only* with this particular group of clients and noone else. When you were hired, you were paid for your time spent with the client. The rates started at $200/hr and capped at $350. A full weekend, however, was a little cheaper by the hour ringing in at $5000. Sex was *not* expected and they were very clear about this. There were other regulations such as your attire, appearance, discretion, etc.

In the end, even though it was very easy money, I didn't like the restrictions it placed on my life at the time, so it turned out it wasn't for me.

End of story.

I'm tired of the "escorts" part of events being ridiculed.. "escort" is really a euphamistic word, it's even relative, people have different ideas of what it means.

The only thing bad about that event is that it is an advertisement. So, it should be taken down. But this "public ridicule pressing morality" etc thing just isn't kosher anymore.