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Taco Rubio
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08-03-2006 12:29
Could I get that source I asked for Kevn?
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Taco Rubio
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08-03-2006 12:30
From: April Firefly
The part that throws me is the dinosaurs. Why doesn't the Bible mention them? Did God not know about them? If not, then where do the bones come from?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism

Young Earth creationists do not deny the existence of dinosaurs and other extinct animals present in the fossil record. They assert, instead, that fossilized extinct creatures represent the remains of animals which perished in the Great Flood, and that Noah took dinosaurs within him in his Ark and they became extinct at some other point in time, like other animals such as the dodo. The newly-established Creation Museum in Kentucky portrays humans and dinosaurs co-existing before the Flood — one exhibit even portrays a saddled triceratops.
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Kevn Klein
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08-03-2006 12:31
From: April Firefly
The part that throws me is the dinosaurs. Why doesn't the Bible mention them? Did God not know about them? If not, then where do the bones come from?

The Bible mentions them, search google for answers, search Bible Dinosaur...
Kevn Klein
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08-03-2006 12:32
From: Taco Rubio
Could I get that source I asked for Kevn?

Sorry, wiki
Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:32
From: Kevn Klein
"A theory of universal common descent based on evolutionary principles was proposed by Charles Darwin in his book The Origin of Species (1859), and later in The Descent of Man (1871). This theory is now generally accepted by biologists, and the last universal common ancestor (LUCA or LUA), that is, the most recent common ancestor of all currently living organisms, is believed to have appeared about 3.5 billion years ago "


And the demonstrable/hypothesisable LUCA is further hypothesised to have arisen from the RNA world - where there was life, previous to the LUCA.

You're citing the LUCA as the origin of life? Ignorant!

Bah!
Corvus Drake
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08-03-2006 12:32
From: Kevn Klein
"A theory of universal common descent based on evolutionary principles was proposed by Charles Darwin in his book The Origin of Species (1859), and later in The Descent of Man (1871). This theory is now generally accepted by biologists, and the last universal common ancestor (LUCA or LUA), that is, the most recent common ancestor of all currently living organisms, is believed to have appeared about 3.5 billion years ago "


1. post your link to that quote

2. You realize that "most recent common ancestor" means part one of a multiplicitious string of mating, right? Unless the organism reproduced asexually, which would still produce differences.

3. You *STILL* haven't addressed thermodynamics in a manner that refutes my earlier counterargument. By failing to do so, you are literally making Christianity look bad and the result may be causing a forum lurker to become more distant in their faith in Christ.
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Liona Clio
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08-03-2006 12:32
From: Kevn Klein
That may be true if you are in time and space. The problem is you can't conceive of existence not bound by time or space. You can't conceive of a plain where creatures exist beyond the realm we occupy. My assumption based on the information available is the creator/s aren't bound by the laws of physics. That would make your logic become illogical from the perspective of the other dimension.


You sure you're not a Scientologist?
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08-03-2006 12:33
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Everyone post your scores. I can get in the 800's!

I bet you had prior experience spanking the monkey to get in the 800's! :p
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Corvus Drake
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08-03-2006 12:33
From: Liona Clio
You sure you're not a Scientologist?


He'd have sued by now.
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Taco Rubio
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08-03-2006 12:33
From: Kevn Klein
Sorry, wiki


nah wiki nor anyplace i can find says that "The only life form to ever come into existence by way of abiogenesis would be the one we all are related to, according to current theory. It was a single life, from a single location"

that is the part i think you made up.
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Kevn Klein
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08-03-2006 12:33
From: Liona Clio
You sure you're not a Scientologist?

Yes, absolutely.
Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:35
From: Kevn Klein
Sorry, wiki


You're arguing something you don't understand by cherry-picking factoids out of context that seem to support your cherished notions.

Congratulations - you've stepped over the line of merely shilling for the people who lie about science, to creating your /own/ outright lies about science.

Caught. Red. Handed. In. Public. Passing. Yourself. Off. As. Competent. In Something. You're Ignorant. Of.


Define, for us, please, Kevn - what do you think "shame" means?
Corvus Drake
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08-03-2006 12:35
From: Taco Rubio
nah wiki nor anyplace i can find says that "The only life form to ever come into existence by way of abiogenesis would be the one we all are related to, according to current theory. It was a single life, from a single location"

that is the part i think you made up.



He got the origin of his arguments confused with the origin of life.

His arguments all come from a single location, though if it's oozing anything, he needs to see a doctor and wear a diaper.
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Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:36
From: Taco Rubio
nah wiki nor anyplace i can find says that "The only life form to ever come into existence by way of abiogenesis would be the one we all are related to, according to current theory. It was a single life, from a single location"

that is the part i think you made up.


He absolutely did make it up - it's a strawman, based on his cherry-picking a quote out of context from a wiki on a subject he's completely misinformed about - misinformation/miseducation that he'd like everyone else to join in on.

$expletive that noise.
Kevn Klein
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08-03-2006 12:38
From: Finning Widget
You're arguing something you don't understand by cherry-picking factoids out of context that seem to support your cherished notions.

Congratulations - you've stepped over the line of merely shilling for the people who lie about science, to creating your /own/ outright lies about science.

Caught. Red. Handed. In. Public. Passing. Yourself. Off. As. Competent. In Something. You're Ignorant. Of.


Define, for us, please, Kevn - what do you think "shame" means?

It's amazing, this is like deja vu all over again, only with a different AV persona.
Corvus Drake
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08-03-2006 12:38
So, Kevn, your argument that the universe is an open system since God influences it opens a can of worms. Doesn't this also mean that not only could any explanation of the origin of species be accurate, but that the planet must be, by definition, several billion years old?

(just a taste of your own medicine)
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Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:39
So, to top this thread off - people who reject evolution apaprently are also misinformed, miseducated about it, have no shame, will make up their own outright lies about science, aaaaaaaaaaaaaand think I'm Ulrika.


Ok, just Kevn thinks I'm Ulrika.
Taco Rubio
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08-03-2006 12:39
From: Finning Widget
He absolutely did make it up - it's a strawman, based on his cherry-picking a quote out of context from a wiki on a subject he's completely misinformed about - misinformation/miseducation that he'd like everyone else to join in on.

$expletive that noise.


the problem is he's been caught a couple of dozen times, and he's a troll doing this for fun, so he doesn't really care.
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Joy Honey
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08-03-2006 12:40
From: Finning Widget
So, to top this thread off - people who reject evolution apaprently are also misinformed, miseducated about it, have no shame, will make up their own outright lies about science, aaaaaaaaaaaaaand think I'm Ulrika.


Ok, just Kevn thinks I'm Ulrika.


Kevn thinks a lot of people are Ulrika... (I just don't want you to feel too special :D)
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Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:40
From: Kevn Klein
It's amazing, this is like deja vu all over again, only with a different AV persona.


It's amazing, It's like deja vu all over again, because there's more than a few people who can see through the lies you spread.
Taco Rubio
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08-03-2006 12:41
Kevn, since you are unable to provide _any_ material backing up the definition of abiogenesis, and if asked, i'll be happy provide you with sources that do not include the last part of the definition you listed (which you made up), could you retract it and apologize for misstating something as a fact?
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Joy Honey
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08-03-2006 12:42
From: Kevn Klein
It's amazing, this is like deja vu all over again, only with a different AV persona.


I like Jessy better..
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Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:43
From: Taco Rubio
Kevn, ... could you retract it and apologize for misstating something as a fact?


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Corvus Drake
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08-03-2006 12:44
From: Finning Widget
NO YOU FOOL YOU ASK THE IMPOSSIBLE

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That would be suggesting that the Kevn might be Errant!
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Zuzu Fassbinder
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08-03-2006 12:45
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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