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Kansas anti-evolutionist takes on Sex Ed

Cindy Claveau
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07-31-2006 12:05
In the recent media furor over the Kansas School Board's attempt to insert religion in the science classrooms, the name Connie Morris was in the forefront. She's the school board member and de facto leader of the fundamentalist wing of the BOE.

While the primaries are tomorrow and there's a strong movement afoot to unseat some of these anti-evolutionists from the board, Connie "I never read the material" Morris is turning her attention to sex ed. And apparently she could probably teach the classes herself.

Unnatural Selection
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Morris criticizes society for reveling "too long in the free-sex revolution." And she's well aware that some will call her views prudish.

If she wanted to, though, Morris could teach her own class on free sex.

She has already written the textbook.

Her 208-page tell-all autobiography, From the Darkness: One Woman's Rise to Nobility (available on Amazon.com for as little as $3.09), reveals that she wasn't always so conservative. Before she was Connie Morris, enemy of evolution, she was Connie Littleton, black-haired siren.

Released in February 2002 by Louisiana-based Christian imprint Huntington House Publishers, Morris' memoir details the trials and tribulations she faced before finding salvation.

She frolicked in free love, drowned in drugs and endured domestic violence and sexual abuse before giving herself to Christ. But even Jesus couldn't tame her. Morris' story isn't unique; chronicles of deliverance from evil are as old as the Bible. It also isn't easy to verify -- Morris has either changed or omitted key names, making it impossible to track down, for example, the Kentucky politician she claimed to have had an affair with before he won statewide office in the mid-1980s.

From the Darkness provides a striking insight into the life of an elected official who has publicly claimed that she is not trying to insert religion into public-school classrooms even as she has vowed that her political career is intended solely "to lead many to Christ, so the population of Heaven will be greater because of me." Such grandiosity pervades Morris' book; even when writing about her life at the depth of depravity, she never tires of reminding readers that she's pretty.

From: someone
In 1973, Morris writes, she was a pretty and popular 12-year-old cheerleader who changed boyfriends every few weeks. She would swap spit with her beaus in movie theaters, but she always left them stranded on first base.


In seventh grade, though, Connie went further with "Will," a married man in his 30s who was the son-in-law of her father's new girlfriend. "Will knew I was a virgin, and he seemed to relish the sport of slowly, yet strategically bringing me to succumb to his seduction," she writes. "I was still afraid of intercourse, even though my revolting behavior had easily ascended me to third base and then had me trying to steal for home."

The third-base coach wasn't waving Will in. Family members were becoming suspicious, so Connie ended the fling. With little parental supervision, Connie and her older sister, Cindy, "began to run the streets like whores," she writes. "Cindy played the ever-wise protector that kept the sex-crazed guys at arm's length.... I was pretty enough, malapert, and profoundly lost inside. I teased the boys but never allowed myself to go 'too far.' That seemed okay."

What was that old line from SNL? "Connie, you ignorant slut!"
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07-31-2006 12:07
this is the same state that spawned the WBC so I put nothing past them religious/politically
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07-31-2006 12:24
From: Cindy Claveau


What was that old line from SNL? "Connie, you ignorant slut!"



LOL!!!
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Cindy Claveau
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07-31-2006 12:29
From: Billybob Goodliffe
this is the same state that spawned the WBC so I put nothing past them religious/politically

Careful. There is a small core of well-educated, enlightened folks in the NE counties who are an exception to your rule. Unfortunately, none of them can vote in Connie's district.
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07-31-2006 12:42
From: Cindy Claveau
Careful. There is a small core of well-educated, enlightened folks in the NE counties who are an exception to your rule. Unfortunately, none of them can vote in Connie's district.


Thank you, Cindy. Yeah, we're not all quite this... ...Insane? Ass-headed? I dunno. We're greatly out-numbered, though. Send help! D:
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07-31-2006 12:50
This thread was worth reading, if only for use of the word malapert.
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07-31-2006 13:36
From: Desmond Shang
This thread was worth reading, if only for use of the word malapert.

Except I think Connie was referring to her own nipples.
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07-31-2006 13:40
I'm convinced she thesaurus'd that.

ANd still misused it.

P.S. If I'd been one of her evil demon-loving sexual yummies in the past, I'd so be screaming "She's writing about me! And she likies other vagina!" to every media source I could find.
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07-31-2006 14:13
From: Cindy Claveau
Except I think Connie was referring to her own nipples.


Isn't that just a gem of a word?

It's got angina beat by miles... I just love the intercourse on these forums.
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07-31-2006 14:16
From: Cindy Claveau
Careful. There is a small core of well-educated, enlightened folks in the NE counties who are an exception to your rule. Unfortunately, none of them can vote in Connie's district.

leave Kansas University out of this :p
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Thank you, Cindy. Yeah, we're not all quite this... ...Insane? Ass-headed? I dunno. We're greatly out-numbered, though. Send help! D:



Do you cry when you vote, too?

I feel like I may as well drop my teary kleenex in the ballot box instead of my ballot for all the good it does.
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07-31-2006 22:34
From: Cindy Claveau
In the recent media furor over the Kansas School Board's attempt to insert religion in the science classrooms, the name Connie Morris was in the forefront. She's the school board member and de facto leader of the fundamentalist wing of the BOE.

While the primaries are tomorrow and there's a strong movement afoot to unseat some of these anti-evolutionists from the board, Connie "I never read the material" Morris is turning her attention to sex ed. And apparently she could probably teach the classes herself.

Unnatural Selection


What was that old line from SNL? "Connie, you ignorant slut!"


Actually it was "Jane, you ignorant slut."

I once got AR'd for using the reference on someone :/
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07-31-2006 22:42
Am I the only one who notices this? Why are these "Born-Again" Christians, who've spent years sleeping with everyone, doing every drug possible, drinking every bit of alcohol, and generally partying hard, the same ones who tell us "Dont do it!!"

I wanna have some fun first dammit!!!! ;)

Ladies???..... Anyone??........ Anyone?? No? Damn. :(
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07-31-2006 23:17
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Am I the only one who notices this? Why are these "Born-Again" Christians, who've spent years sleeping with everyone, doing every drug possible, drinking every bit of alcohol, and generally partying hard, the same ones who tell us "Dont do it!!"

I wanna have some fun first dammit!!!! ;)

Ladies???..... Anyone??........ Anyone?? No? Damn.
:(


Quite often but not always, the guiltier they feel over their past, the more energetically they push their agenda of
moral, religious, political self righteousness.
Or whatever their chosen path to personal reform may have been.
What seems to be a common denominator is the need to
push their new found beliefs on others.

I think this person "Connie" stood on firmer moral ground when
she was practicing as a slut, than she currently is as some
kind of political religious self proclaimed (in her own mind)
Christ clone.

This is a classic example of the misuse of the human
ego tool. ;)
Tod69 Talamasca
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From: Infiniview Merit
Quite often but not always, the guiltier they feel over their past, the more energetically they push their agenda of
moral, religious, political self righteousness.
Or whatever their chosen path to personal reform may have been.
What seems to be a common denominator is the need to
push their new found beliefs on others.

I think this person "Connie" stood on firmer moral ground when
she was practicing as a slut, than she currently is as some
kind of political religious self proclaimed (in her own mind)
Christ clone.

This is a classic example of the misuse of the human
ego tool. ;)


Aye. I totally agree. Seems the worse they were "before" the more "saved" they are with the need to push it onto others.

Just wondering folks: Why arent there "Born-again" Buddhists? Or pagans, etc, etc?
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08-01-2006 01:55
From: Cindy Claveau
She frolicked in free love, drowned in drugs and endured domestic violence and sexual abuse before giving herself to Christ. But even Jesus couldn't tame her.

What was that old line from SNL? "Connie, you ignorant slut!"


Photo please! Phone number if possible. RAWWWRRRRR!

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08-01-2006 02:07
I became clean and sober a little over 3 months ago. My drug of choice was weed, not that it's of any consequence, although there are a lot of people who rank on someone who says they're a weed addict, but oh well, my weed habit was WAY out-of-hand (like $400 a month out of hand). Right away I got involved with the N.A. program (Narcotics Anonymous). At first I was put off by its religious connotations (even though they "claim" in the literature that it's not a religious program, even though it is--it's certainly not compatible with atheism), and then I warmed up to it a bit, trying to convert the way I view spirituality with the wording and concepts of the program. The meetings became a reminder of what I could have become if I would have continued down the path I was going down--I probably would have moved on to harder drugs, and most meetings that have more than 10 people in them generally have people that have seen or are currently seeing some really hard times.

Then I started to hear the opinions of people who had been clean for more than 10-20 years, and I started to hear intolerance towards the ideas of drug legalization (the "oh, I used to feel this way, but now I think that's just wrong";), and opinions of other people that don't have a spiritual base to their beliefs. Then I started hearing all of the "You're powerless over your addiction" over and over again. Then I started to realize that many people in the program had become self-righteous in their non-drug beliefs. I'm not saying that drugs are great, but I'm not going to put any judgment on people who do them, and I'm not going to go around saying that everyone who does drugs are powerless over their drug use.

I have went to very few meetings anymore because of it (for the first month and a half, I went to meetings every day). Usually the meetings take place in a church, the word "God" is all over their literature, and there's generally a big push for a biblical viewpoint on spirituality. I think that if the program is to claim that is a non-religious program that the literature needs to be completely rewritten, and that things like the "serenity prayer" needs to not have the word "God" put at the beginning of it, and that the Lord's prayer should not ever be a part of the meetings (you really can't get any more religious than having to say the Lord's prayer).

Anyway, my point is that anything that people decide that they regret doing in their lives for whatever reason, and have stopped doing whatever that is themselves can become self-righteous in their attitudes about people that still do it.

P.S. Since I've stopped going to the meetings, I've taken an RR route (Rational Recovery) for my recovery, and it seems to be doing me well, since it's already the route I took from the beginning.
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08-01-2006 06:50
From: Billybob Goodliffe
leave Kansas University out of this :p

Rock Chalk :)
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08-01-2006 07:00
From: Tod69 Talamasca
Just wondering folks: Why arent there "Born-again" Buddhists? Or pagans, etc, etc?


As you asked... it's a Biblical concept, from John's Gospel, chapter 3 v1-8:

1 Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council.
2 He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."
3 In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
4 "How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"
5 Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.
7 You should not be surprised at my saying, `You must be born again.'
8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

Material provided as reference explanation to the question, rather than "forcing religion on others".

Lewis
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Cindy Claveau
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08-01-2006 07:22
Fun with Google: More on Ms. Connie Morris...

RecallConnieMorris.org ("Restore Sanity to the Kansas Board of Education";)

Some really cute quotes from her drug-addled brain:
From: someone
"It is our goal to write the standards in such a way that clearly gives educators the right AND responsibility to present the criticism of Darwinism alongside the age-old fairy tale of evolution"

“In short, Darwin’s theory of evolution is biologically, genetically, mathematically, chemically, metaphysically and etc. ‘wildly’ and ‘utterly impossible.’”

“I’ve read stacks of stuff . . . which refutes evolution.”


Times Online
From: someone
CONNIE MORRIS took LSD at her high school graduation, posed nude as a model and frolicked in free love before suffering sexual abuse and descending into drug addiction. Then she found God.

From: someone
She is an elected member of the Kansas State Board of Education, which is seeking to change the school science curriculum so that children are taught criticism of evolution. This autumn the board is expected to approve new standards that describe Darwin’s theory on the origin of the species as “controversial . . . based on inferences from indirect or circumstantial evidence”.


More than twenty similar challenges to scientific orthodoxy are being mounted in state legislatures and on school boards across the country. In Cobb County, Georgia, disclaimer stickers have been placed on textbooks stating that evolution is “theory, not fact”.

Earlier this year President Bush threw his weight behind such efforts, saying that he thought lessons should include arguments for and against natural selection, “so people can understand what the debate is about”.

This seemingly fair-minded approach is known as “teach the controversy” and is buttressed by studies from the Discovery Institute in Seattle. The think-tank has been proposing “intelligent design” as a middle way between Darwin and those creationists who still believe that the world was made by God just a few thousand years ago.

In the same way that Mrs Morris, 43, recognises that she made “past mistakes”, so has Discovery realised that a literal interpretation of the Book of Genesis is not going to get very far. It has gone to great lengths to present scientific rather than religious arguments, saying that Darwin cannot explain how life began — or how it got to be so complex. It claims that some biological features, such as the mutual dependency of the proteins needed for blood clotting, are just too amazing to be explained without acknowledging at least the possibility of intervention by a higher — supernatural — hand.

This debate is not raging on university campuses, where the overwhelming majority of scientists reject the intelligent design thesis. They regard it as a part of an assault by the US Right on science in general: other fronts including stem-cell research, climate change and Nasa’s space-exploration budget. Instead, the intelligent design “controversy” is apparent mainly in state legislatures — on education and local school boards.

People such as Mrs Morris are not scientists, they are politicians thrown up by the US system of holding direct elections for almost everything. She recently made plain her feelings towards evolution in a letter to her constituents in rural west Kansas — describing Darwinism as “biologically, chemically, metaphysically and, etc, wildly and utterly impossible”. In an interview with The Times Mrs Morris said: “I’ve read stacks of stuff . . . which refutes evolution.” She confirmed that, along with two-thirds of the US public according to a recent opinion poll, she believed that mankind was created directly by God. How long ago — 5,000 years? “I’m not sure that matters,” she said.

And this woman is helping to decide the curriculum for Kansas children.
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08-01-2006 07:34
From: Lewis Nerd
As you asked... it's a Biblical concept, from John's Gospel, chapter 3 v1-8:

1 Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council.
2 He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."
3 In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."
4 "How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"
5 Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.
7 You should not be surprised at my saying, `You must be born again.'
8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

Material provided as reference explanation to the question, rather than "forcing religion on others".
Lewis

What is sad is you have to tell people you are referencing the information rather than forcing your religion on anyone. It should be obvious.
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08-01-2006 07:42
From: Kevn Klein
What is sad is you have to tell people you are referencing the information rather than forcing your religion on anyone. It should be obvious.


Yes, it is rather sad, but unfortunately people tend not to like being presented with Biblical truths even when they are directly asked to be given them.

I've never made it a secret that I am one of these dreadfully threatening "born again Christians". I really don't understand why people have such a problem with that.

Lewis
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08-01-2006 07:43
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Just wondering folks: Why arent there "Born-again" Buddhists? Or pagans, etc, etc?

I was of the understanding that all Buddhists and Hindus were "Born again". Granted, it is in a much more literal sense than christians.
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08-01-2006 07:45
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I was of the understanding that all Buddhists and Hindus were "Born again". Granted, it is in a much more literal sense than christians.


Reincarnation. Not the same thing. It's a physical rebirth, whereas the Christian view is more of a 'spiritual' rebirth. Remember also that we also believe that we only have one chance at life on this planet, then we are judged and spend eternity either up or down.

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08-01-2006 08:33
From: Lewis Nerd
Reincarnation. Not the same thing. It's a physical rebirth, whereas the Christian view is more of a 'spiritual' rebirth.


Hmmm. I think that Buddists and Hindi would dispute the idea that reincarnation isn't a spiritual rebirth.

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Remember also that we also believe that we only have one chance at life on this planet, then we are judged and spend eternity either up or down.


Speaking as a follower of Jesus's teachings, I would submit that a large majority of the organized Christian religion judges souls far before their life ends.

The spiritual rebrith is the true concept of "born again", and it's a shame that the meaning of the phrase nowdays is more akin to "card carrying". However, the Christian movement has no one but itself to blame. Like most organized religions, it's not exactly a humble or forgiving movement, when you get right down to it.
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