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10-16-2005 07:30
No! Don't Do it! Jeska! Nooooooooooooooooo!
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10-16-2005 09:48
From: Smiley Sneerwell
Need a Midol?



Perhaps if you have some Midol PIE ...

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Chip Midnight
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10-16-2005 10:43
From: Kevn Klein
I tried very hard to help Ulrika understand the fact we were never discussing the theory of evolution. She continues to insist I couldn't understand her.

The entire discussion concerned ABIOGEGESIS, not evolution.


That's a very disingenuous statement. You brought up abiogenesis as an argument against evolution.
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10-16-2005 11:06
From: Eggy Lippmann
You guys were having all that fun and you didnt invite me.



Eggy! I tried. You blew me up.
Kevn Klein
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10-16-2005 19:58
From: Chip Midnight
That's a very disingenuous statement. You brought up abiogenesis as an argument against evolution.


Chip, read the thread again, I brought up statistical facts to prove the possibilty "life arose";(abiogenesis) by accident was 0, nil, none what so ever.

Sadly Chip, few of those who participated took the time to understand the point of the thread. That's why some people kept refering to evolution, and I didn't respond to anything concerning evolution of the spieces.
Ulrika Zugzwang
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10-16-2005 20:15
From: Kevn Klein
Chip, read the thread again, I brought up statistical facts to prove the possibilty "life arose";(abiogenesis) by accident was 0, nil, non what so ever.
Here's another delicious example of your inability to engage in constructive dialogue. There are a dozen posts from a dozen different individuals in a couple of different threads describing how the probability is not zero but, in fact, infinitesimal. The difference between zero and infinitesimal is just a matter of mathematical accuracy and means nothing to the debate, yet despite patient explanations from many individuals you continue to make the same erroneous statement.

How can you expect to engage in a scientific debate with SL's best and brightest when you can't even assimilate tangential facts such as the one above? If I were you, I'd quit while you're behind. :D

~Ulrika~
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10-16-2005 20:23
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Here's another delicious example of your inability to engage in constructive dialogue. There are a dozen posts from a dozen different individuals in a couple of different threads describing how the probability is not zero but, in fact, infinitesimal. The difference between zero and infinitesimal is just a matter of mathematical accuracy and means nothing to the debate, yet despite patient explanations form many individuals you continue to make the same erroneous statement.

How can you expect to engage in a scientific debate with SL's best and brightest when you can't even assimilate tangentially facts such as the one above? If I were you, I'd quit while you're behind. :D

~Ulrika~


You clearly don't understand the concept of a statistical impossibility. If you did, you would understand 1 out of 10^28000 is impossible.

Perhaps a lesson in statistics would help.

Night night, cutie :)
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10-16-2005 20:36
From: Kevn Klein
Perhaps a lesson in statistics would help.
Funny, I just had exactly the very same thought. What are the chances of that????
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10-16-2005 20:39
I'd say close to 100%, if you read her post and understand the concept. :)
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10-16-2005 23:08
"With SL's best and brightest?" Gag me with a spoon. Again.

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Ulrika Zugzwang
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10-16-2005 23:12
From: Kevn Klein
You clearly don't understand the concept of a statistical impossibility. If you did, you would understand 1 out of 10^28000 is impossible. Perhaps a lesson in statistics would help.
Not to invoke the argument from authority but there are two Ph.D.s in my household who are very well versed in higher mathematics, including probability theory, statistics, and calculus. As a matter of fact, that's why I was so quick to point out that the only thing your infinitesimal probability proves is, that the process is not random. With that in mind, instead of me seeking out a lesson in statistics, perhaps I could give you a lesson. :D

As you have mistakenly claimed many times, 1/10^28000 is not equal to zero. Naturally, I understand that the following discussion will do nothing to correct your future assertions of the same. If there's one thing that we've all learned it is, that you lack the ability to assimilate facts presented through logical arguments (which is probably why you're a creationist in the first place).

The equation



is false. In general the statement



is false for all values of n. The only time you'll see the reciprocal of a number equal to zero is in calculus when one takes a limit, such as



Unfortunately, calculus has nothing to do with the ratio discussed above, so you'll have to be satisfied with being wrong.


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Night night, cutie :)
And there's the diminutive sexist descriptive right on schedule. Instead of talking down to women, might I suggest buying a big truck instead? :D

~Ulrika~
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10-16-2005 23:47
Every time I see the cover of the Sept 26th New Yorker it makes me think of you, Ulrika.
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10-17-2005 00:47
From: Kevn Klein
Chip, read the thread again, I brought up statistical facts to prove the possibilty "life arose";(abiogenesis) by accident was 0, nil, none what so ever.



No, you did not demonstrate that at all.

You presented a statistical fantasy.

You have been trying to demonstrate the probability that advanced life forms were the product of abiogenesis, which is not expected by abiogenesis.

The expected life forms from abiogenesis would be quite simple, and probable.
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10-17-2005 04:46
From: someone
And there's the diminutive sexist descriptive right on schedule. Instead of talking down to women, might I suggest buying a big truck instead? :D
I'm expecting the nasty little troll who is not only manifestly incorrect, has been soundly refuted, and continues to reopen a closed topic is waiting for one of two eventualities:
  1. to bait someone into responding to the incitement thus being suspended
  2. being suspended him/herself so that he/she can can claim martyrdom for his/her "cause" rather than for nasty trolldom
Deny him or her the gratification; don't feed the troll.
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10-17-2005 05:56
From: Malachi Petunia
I'm expecting the nasty little troll who is not only manifestly incorrect, has been soundly refuted, and continues to reopen a closed topic is waiting for one of two eventualities:
  1. to bait someone into responding to the incitement thus being suspended
  2. being suspended him/herself so that he/she can can claim martyrdom for his/her "cause" rather than for nasty trolldom
Deny him or her the gratification; don't feed the troll.


You are so right. I'll stop feeding right now.

Sorry I even replied. I'll try to ignore it in the future. Thanks for the reminder.
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