Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive

These forums are CLOSED. Please visit the new forums HERE

Locked Off-Topic Threads

Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
01-06-2006 17:07
Please stop locking threads that are currently being used for fun conversations. The troll thread didn't name names and since the troll in question was banned the current topic evolved into a free-form, uncontentious discussion. What's wrong with that?

Also, I'd like to see a more descriptive reason that a thread is being closed instead of the standard "outlived it's usefulness" cliché.

I'm just saying.

~Ulrika~
_____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
01-06-2006 17:43
Bumping this controversial protest piece as it has had 1 view after an hour. I must be losing my touch. :D

~Ulrika~
_____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Gabe Lippmann
"Phone's ringing, Dude."
Join date: 14 Jun 2004
Posts: 4,219
01-06-2006 17:48
I have to admit, I'm confused that something such as the Word Change thread would never get locked but which provides no obvious intelligent discourse (or whatever wording Jeska typically uses) while some of the other threads that appear to be no more subversive in nature do get locked.
_____________________
go to Nocturnal Threads :mad:
Jora Welesa
Dark Lady of the Sith
Join date: 11 Jul 2005
Posts: 153
01-06-2006 17:49
The one view was me. Hee. Bored at work.

I agree. After "You-know-who" left, the thread just sort of turned into mellow conversation and lots of pretty colors. I don't see why it should've been locked, either.
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
01-06-2006 17:52
From: Gabe Lippmann
I have to admit, I'm confused that something such as the Word Change thread would never get locked but which provides no obvious intelligent discourse (or whatever wording Jeska typically uses) while some of the other threads that appear to be no more subversive in nature do get locked.
Yes! I was just thinking the very same thing. It's as if a thread can only exist if it is labeled and used for productive discourse or if it's labeled an used solely for fun. Hybrids get locked.

~Ulrika~
_____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
01-06-2006 17:57
I would like to know how it is you think you know that the person you have labeled a troll has been banned.

coco
_____________________
VALENTINE BOUTIQUE
at Coco's Cottages

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Rosieri/85/166/87
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
01-06-2006 18:05
From: Cocoanut Koala
I would like to know how it is you think you know that the person you have labeled a troll has been banned.
There is only circumstantial evidence, however it's quite compelling. He was vanished right after a period when Jeska was actively moderating the General and Off-Topic forum this morning. Two threads were deleted, I received a formal warning, the fellow suddenly stopped posting, and someone noticed the posting of a 3-day suspension on the police blotter.

It was an eventful 10 minutes! :)

~Ulrika~
_____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
01-06-2006 18:07
A three-day suspension is not the same thing as a ban.

coco
_____________________
VALENTINE BOUTIQUE
at Coco's Cottages

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Rosieri/85/166/87
Logan Bauer
Inept Adept
Join date: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,237
01-06-2006 18:08
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
There is only circumstantial evidence, however it's quite compelling. He was vanished right after a period when Jeska was actively moderating the General and Off-Topic forum this morning. Two threads were deleted, I received a formal warning, the fellow suddenly stopped posting, and someone noticed the posting of a 3-day suspension on the police blotter.

It was an eventful 10 minutes! :)

~Ulrika~



Objection. Speculative argument.

Agreed. Strike that from the records.

;)
Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,898
01-06-2006 18:37
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Bumping this controversial protest piece as it has had 1 view after an hour. I must be losing my touch. :D

~Ulrika~


I took the long road home. Maybe others did the same.
_____________________
"The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence."
-Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey
Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,898
01-06-2006 18:39
From: Ulrika Zugzwang

Also, I'd like to see a more descriptive reason that a thread is being closed instead of the standard "outlived it's usefulness" cliché.


That's exactly why I started the Finish Him thread. Jeska can still be professional and find a way to work in an PWNED every now and then can't she?

By the way, is it AN pwned or A pwned?
_____________________
"The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence."
-Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
01-06-2006 23:20
From: Chance Abattoir
That's exactly why I started the Finish Him thread. Jeska can still be professional and find a way to work in an PWNED every now and then can't she?

By the way, is it AN pwned or A pwned?
I would like to see a PWNED on occasion myself. (I say it as "poned". Hopefully that's right. :))

~Ulrika~
_____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,898
01-06-2006 23:39
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
I would like to see a PWNED on occasion myself. (I say it as "poned". Hopefully that's right. :))

~Ulrika~


I like to think of it as "pawned," referring to the colloquial chess phrase "en passant, dumbass."
_____________________
"The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence."
-Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey
Siro Mfume
XD
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 747
01-06-2006 23:52
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
I would like to see a PWNED on occasion myself. (I say it as "poned". Hopefully that's right. :))

~Ulrika~


yes it's right, like a hose to a cat.
Jeska Linden
Administrator
Join date: 26 Jul 2004
Posts: 2,388
01-07-2006 08:49
Please don't start threads about threads which have been closed, per the forum guidelines:
Reposting – If a moderator removes your post, do not repost it elsewhere. Do not repost threads that have been locked or deleted and do not repost content that has been edited or deleted by a moderator. Furthermore, please do not post a "why did my post get removed" post. Send any further discussion regarding post removals to [email]abuse@lindenlab.com[/email].


Threads are closed when there is no obvious constructive discussion going on or when the content of the thread in no way meets the purpose of the Second Life Forums - which is to promote discussion and education about Second Life. We believe in an honest and open free exchange of ideas, and in always maintaining a respect for the opinions and positions of other people.
Aaron Levy
Medicated Lately?
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,147
01-07-2006 08:51
What's the point of "off-topic" then, Jeska? Why even take time to moderate it?

It means you're reading through off-topic, pointless threads trying to find the exact point at which they become "unconstructive" instead of policing the forums where real abuse occurs.

From: someone
content of the thread in no way meets the purpose of the Second Life Forums - which is to promote discussion and education about Second Life.


But in OFF-TOPIC, we can talk about NON-SECOND LIFE stuff. Man, I don't get this anymore. By you're very own defintion in your post above, you say you'll lock stuff that doesn't have to do with Second Life. But this very forum, OFF-TOPIC, was created to talking about stuff that is SPECIFICALLY *NOT* Second Life.

What gives?
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
01-07-2006 10:31
From: Aaron Levy
What's the point of "off-topic" then, Jeska? Why even take time to moderate it?

It means you're reading through off-topic, pointless threads trying to find the exact point at which they become "unconstructive" instead of policing the forums where real abuse occurs.

But in OFF-TOPIC, we can talk about NON-SECOND LIFE stuff. Man, I don't get this anymore. By you're very own defintion in your post above, you say you'll lock stuff that doesn't have to do with Second Life. But this very forum, OFF-TOPIC, was created to talking about stuff that is SPECIFICALLY *NOT* Second Life.

What gives?
Excellent points! Jeska, please answer Aaron's question above.

~Ulrika~
_____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,898
01-07-2006 11:54
--YOINK--
From: Jeska Linden

Send any further discussion regarding post removals to [email]abuse@lindenlab.com[/email].



There will be no public answer, but tell us what happens. :)
_____________________
"The mob requires regular doses of scandal, paranoia and dilemma to alleviate the boredom of a meaningless existence."
-Insane Ramblings, Anton LaVey
Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
01-07-2006 12:08
Abuse does occur in off-topic. And thus, the off-topic forum needs to be moderated as well.

coco
_____________________
VALENTINE BOUTIQUE
at Coco's Cottages

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Rosieri/85/166/87
Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,835
01-07-2006 13:37
From: Chance Abattoir
--YOINK--


There will be no public answer, but tell us what happens. :)


your appeal gets placed in the circular filing cabinet next to jeska's desk :D
_____________________
http://wu-had.blogspot.com/
read my blog

Mecha
Jauani Wu
hero of justice
__________________________________________________
"Oh Jauani, you're terrible." - khamon fate


Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
01-07-2006 13:38
From: Jauani Wu
your appeal gets placed in the circular filing cabinet next to jeska's desk :D
It's so true. I've emailed that address many times in my long forum history and never had a single reply ever. In my opinion the spool file links directly to the bit bucket.

~Ulrika~
_____________________
Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Zapoteth Zaius
Is back
Join date: 14 Feb 2004
Posts: 5,634
01-07-2006 13:41
Go Jeska!

You keep on trucking girl..
_____________________
I have the right to remain silent. Anything I say will be misquoted and used against me.
---------------
Zapoteth Designs, Temotu (100,50)
---------------
Siro Mfume
XD
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 747
01-07-2006 13:49
I think largely what determines what locks a thread is how many abuse reports it gets. If people started ARing off topic threads left and right, we might start seeing less of them except we'd also see a more "Don't MAKE me come over there" forum attitude out of moderators. So while some threads spiral all over the place, they don't degrade into anything we didn't overall want them to be. It's when they get truly bad on a consistant basis that someone gets suspended or banned.
Stankleberry Sullivan
Interneter
Join date: 18 Dec 2005
Posts: 550
01-12-2006 07:31
From: Aaron Levy
What's the point of "off-topic" then, Jeska? Why even take time to moderate it?



Hahaha, I see Linden Labs is as bad at answering important questions in the forum as they are at answering them through email. Good job, LL!