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Briana Dawson
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09-02-2006 17:07
The bugle is a one note instrument -- the pitch/key changes come from the player's lips. BTW --since the forums are closing soon and I might not get to say this to you ever again. You're an idiot. And you are confused  Briana Dawson _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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09-02-2006 17:10
The bugle is a one note instrument -- the pitch/key changes come from the player's lips. BTW --since the forums are closing soon and I might not get to say this to you ever again. You're an idiot. Bugles are made to play a key, like B flat..Therefore you can play all the notes in the key of B flat, which you do with your lips. But the player does not change the key of the instrument. Briana Dawson _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
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09-02-2006 17:13
Bugles are made to play a key, like B flat..Therefore you can play all the notes in the key of B flat, which you do with your lips. But the player does not change the key of the instrument. Briana Dawson I bow to your obvoius expertise in how to blow things. _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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09-02-2006 17:24
What's stopping Iran from taking over the Middle East? Doesn't seem like much. Right now, it's just US presence. Once we leave Iraq, what if Iran declares the Iraqi government a "US Puppet" government, or worse--takes advantage of a civil war-like situation--and invades Iraq "to restore order"? With their huge arsenal of cheap, high tech missiles, they can effectively blockade the Persian Gulf, and most likely trash Saudi oil production. The US Navy can only do so much, they aren't miracle workers, and I don't know if they can prevent massive missile launches from Iran from doing serious damage to anything in range. I would have to disagree with your assessment of Iranian capabilities in the Persian Gulf. Iran has no missile in their arsenal capable of evading our ship based missile intercept technology, like the sparrow, and CIWS (sea-wiz). Their biggest threat is the 3 Russian Kilo submarines they have, which are electric, but unfortunately for the Iranians they don't have torpedo technology that we can not stop, like say..wake homing torpedos. When we travel to the gulf, we take a battlegroup. A battlegroup consists of a Carrier, guided missile destroyer, guided missile cruiser, 2 submarines, and 1 or 2 frigates (This is the makeup CarrierGroup-Eight, the battlegroup I was attached to). What this all means is that 3 Kilo's Iran has don't have a snowballs chance in hell of surviving - there is so much active sonar happening that they won't have any place to hide, and the means death. So no, Iran could never blockade the gulf...In such an instance we would send no-less than 3 battlegroups to that region to maintain our doctrine of overwhelming force. And I didn't even touch upon airpower. Briana Dawson _____________________
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Briana Dawson
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09-02-2006 17:26
I bow to your obvoius expertise in how to blow things. Mmmmm, my last Master liked that particular trait.  Briana Dawson _____________________
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Richie Waves
Predictable
Join date: 29 Jun 2005
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09-02-2006 18:00
I found this a striking read, and rather than start another thread I thought I dump it on this as its quite relevant.
"The conflict in the Middle East is getting cloudier by the minute. As America continues to unilaterally support Israel's offensive, they are also deploying a variety of smokescreens in order to justify this war. We are seeing a trend of politicians who are trying to paint an environment of moral superiority over the rest of the world, while opening wounds from 9/11, and finally creating a Nazi-like image for their purported enemies. The average person who is relatively ignorant about world-affairs is the most susceptible to fall victim to these distractions. While it is their hope to gain unconditional support from the world by creating these smokescreens, we must do our best to avoid these temptations. Rather than just being deferent to the politicians and pundits, we must question the status quo. Listed below are three of the main smokescreens that have been employed to further justify this war: READ ON _____________________
no u!
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Garoad Kuroda
Prophet of Muppetry
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
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09-02-2006 22:00
Wow four pages.. unfortunately RL is keeping me too busy to give a real response atm. If the forum locks before I can post again I guess I'll move this to that second citizen site or whatever it is.. it's interesting how varied the responses are.
Brief summary response: Briana - I'm not sure that Iran has the ability to cause serious damage with conventional weapons, but I've seen "evidence/arguments" (note the quotes) that they may have the ability to at least cause serious disruptions in the area. I'd especially consider the fact that just the sheer numbers of "cheap" missiles, aimed at our much more expensive and harder to protect fleets/land bases (even if only a fraction reach their targets), could prove to be a major problem. But again I'm not certain.. alot of this is hypothetical. I mean, I just don't see many oil tankers leaving the Gulf in the event of a major conflict with Iran. Kendra - Eh, what can I say, I'm not surprised by your responses... but would you say the same about the US being "Germany" if congress was Dem controlled, and we had a liberal Democrat in office? It doesn't really effect the scenario and it's a somewhat likely thing to happen in 2008. Other - Forgetting the WWII analogy if you want, although I still think it could apply, is the proposed scenario feasible? That's really what I was trying to get at, not so much the similiarities to another historical conflict. i.e. Doesn't Iran have the ability to make oil prices skyrocket, and essentially trash the western world's economy? I think they do. _____________________
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS! |
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
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09-02-2006 22:04
Kendra - Eh, what can I say, I'm not surprised by your responses... but would you say the same about the US being "Germany" if congress was Dem controlled, and we had a liberal Democrat in office? It doesn't really effect the scenario and it's a somewhat likely thing to happen in 2008. Of course I would. Don't be silly. _____________________
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Tiberious Neruda
Furry 'On File'
Join date: 1 Nov 2005
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09-03-2006 04:43
Kendra - Eh, what can I say, I'm not surprised by your responses... but would you say the same about the US being "Germany" if congress was Dem controlled, and we had a liberal Democrat in office? It doesn't really effect the scenario and it's a somewhat likely thing to happen in 2008. With the way the Democrats are running the '08 bid (Lieberman going independent), I'm doubting their ability to win the White House. The main problem is the Howard Deans in the DNC go vote in the primaries, so the Dem nominee is a screaming moonbat, while the more mainstream and conservative sides of the party votes in the general election, and are so turned off by who got the nod they vote independent or even... GOP. In short, Liberman will split the Democratic vote, and the GOP will likely retain the Presidency. |
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Acacia LaFontaine
Not pressure!!
Join date: 28 Jun 2006
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09-03-2006 05:31
 Sorry, couldn't resist sharing.... |
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
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09-03-2006 06:52
With the way the Democrats are running the '08 bid (Lieberman going independent), I'm doubting their ability to win the White House. The main problem is the Howard Deans in the DNC go vote in the primaries, so the Dem nominee is a screaming moonbat, while the more mainstream and conservative sides of the party votes in the general election, and are so turned off by who got the nod they vote independent or even... GOP. In short, Liberman will split the Democratic vote, and the GOP will likely retain the Presidency. Lieberman is far more likely to split the Republican Vote. _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
Witchhunter
Join date: 27 Jan 2004
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09-03-2006 07:13
Lieberman is far more likely to split the Republican Vote. I doubt it. It's not that we like him, we see him as useful. For splitting the democrat vote _____________________
I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
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Kendra Bancroft
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Join date: 17 Jun 2004
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09-03-2006 07:39
I doubt it. It's not that we like him, we see him as useful. For splitting the democrat vote Then how come Scleshinger is recieving no support from the RNC? _____________________
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Billybob Goodliffe
NINJA WIZARDS!
Join date: 22 Dec 2005
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09-03-2006 08:19
Then how come Scleshinger is recieving no support from the RNC? because its a lost cause? _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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09-03-2006 08:47
because its a lost cause? Partly--and partly because Lieberman IS their republican candidate. _____________________
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