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The US did sign it. Isreal has not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty

http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Treaties/npt.html

Well the United States is the only country in the world that matters, didn't you know that? Why do you think we own the world?

oft do I hark back to the "isreal can do what they like" law of 1948

oh.. I thought it was only the moon and Space that you guys owned.. lol.. how silly of me

Woof woof! Sniffs Briana's butt.

And the point being that having Libya in charge of human rights makes as much sense as the US being in charge of a UN agency for reducing military spending.

Israel, unfortunately, doesn't have the luxury of agreeing to things that may damage their ability to defend themselves. They happen to be surrounded by about a billion people who generally would like to see them "wiped off the map". And anyway, if their ass is on the line in a life or death situation, most will quickly forget about "doing the right thing" for the sake of obeying a law if it puts them into a dangerous situation.

You do understand what being a voluntary signatory to something means, right?

I just dont see lip service to human rights as a respect for human rights.. IMO thats all america has..

Major principles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

There are a total of thirty articles outlining people's human rights, but the most important principles declared are considered to be the following:

* The right to life, liberty, property and security of person.

* The right to an education.

* The right to employment, paid holidays, protection against unemployment, and social security.

* The right to participate fully in cultural life.

* Freedom from torture or cruel, inhumane treatment or punishment.

* Freedom of thought, conscience and religion.

* Freedom of expression and opinion.

Which, as we all know, Libya has a flawless track record on!

Yeah, God knows Libya isn't violating any of those ever.

The US give far more than lip service to human rights. However, there has been a disturbing and growing trend to place effective law enforcement over the protection of rights. The US was founded on the principle that it is better to let 20 guilty go free than to send one innocent to jail.

Under the current trend, convictions are becoming paramount.

But I'd still trust the US over Libya for human rights, at least for now.

This list is also a good illustration as to what is wrong the the UN. How anybody could put the right to life in the same catagory as the right to paid holidays is beyond me.

wouldnt be much of a life without holidays now would it

Have an honest response, or just more smarm?

id have to say honesty wrapped in a little smarm.

In which case I find your response indicative of the same problem Cannae was talking about.

I find its the little things like this that make the Right to live so worth it in the first place actually.

Yup. Same problem Cannae was talking about.

w/e... what I posted are the bullets of the document and not ALL of it..

WTF could you POSSIBLY have against the right to paid holidays? ffs....

That's the point. You shouldn't have to have bullet points to define "basic human rights". There aren't that many.



It's not a right. That's what I have against calling it a right. I have nothing against paid holidays as a concept.

It's like saying "WTF could you POSSIBLY have against the right to ice cream and puppies?". Nothing. They are both fine. But they aren't /rights/.

Nothing provided that you are actually doing something worthwhile and actually EARN those paid holidays.

What you want is the UN to enforce the right to live off the public tit at someone else's expense.

How in the bloody WORLD are you meant to get PAID holidays if YOUR NOT FUCKING WORKING???? or do you consider only certain types of work deserving of paid holidays?

You don't.

Why in the world should anyone be entitled to having paid holidays? It may make sense for employers to provide them, but having it as a right is something else.

If you feel that strongly about it, start your own business and provide paid holidays to everyone no questions asked. But my guess you can't afford to do that on your dime/shilling.

Maybe that's something you should think about before demanding paid holidays be provided to all employers as a fundamental human right.

Israel is a lot more careful about respecting peoples rights than most countries in the world, certianly then their neighbors in the Middle East.

Now about the so called Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 29, section 3 states "These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations."

So in other words all those pretty words about rights are nice, but if they get in the way of the UN forget about them.

The UN needs to go the way of the League of Nations, and the sooner it does so the better off we all will be.

Geoff