An apology from USMC Lieutenant General Chuck Pitman

Hahaha, false allegations. Maybe you should list just a few of those "false allegations". Nah, you'd rather just dismiss all of them because they're a little too true for you to accept. You're more concerned with pretending that Bush is the new Adolf Hitler.

How shall I educate myself? Should I be like you and dismiss anything that doesn't fit in with my beliefs? Nah, I think I'll stick with what I'm doing now and continue to read everything, from both sides. I know you don't. Otherwise you wouldn't think that Bush is a "fascitic imperial agressor". You might want to look in the mirror to see one of those, though.

To our brothers in the Middle East

Dear Iran, I'm sorry that US forces, backed by the CIA, toppled your democratically elected leader in 1953, at the request of Britain, who was afraid that you would nationalize oil and threaten the United Kingdom's oil supply.

http://www.cia.gov/csi/studies/vol48no2/article10.html

Dear Iran, I'm sorry that this led to murdering, fundamentalist arseholes assuming control of your government since then. I'm sorry that the US has SUPPORTED and EMPOWERED THAT MURDER. But you really should have known better than to defy us.

Dear Iran, I'm sorry that the murder and repression have been about O-I-L since 1953.

Dear Iran, I'm sorry that Bush is lying about your resuming nuclear weapons testing and will soon invade your country again, over oil. And to support the American Final Solution.

http://www.uruknet.com/?p=19412&hd=0&size=1&l=x

quote from the article:"Washington has intentionally confused Iran’s non-binding agreement with the UK, Germany and France with the NPT (Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty). Thus when Iran ends its voluntary suspension of uranium enriching activities, the Bush administration pretends that Iran is doing something illegal, even though the Treaty itself specifically allows it to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes."

Dear Iran, Im sorry that the Bush family has economic ties (and probably fundamentalist religious sympathies) with your repressive, murdering Royal Family and allows said Royals to kill and enslave the Iranian people in order to protect the oil supply.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0111-01.htm

Dear Iran, I'm sorry that the US supplied chemical weapons to Iraq, for use against Iranian forces, in the Iran-Iraq war. But Saddam was our boy, then. Before he decided to change Iraq's currency from the dollar to the Euro, threatening the value of American oil investment in Iraq.

http://www.feasta.org/documents/papers/oil1.htm

interesting quote from the article: "One other OPEC country has been talking publicly about possible conversion to the euro since 1999: Iran. A country which has since been included in the George W. Bush's 'axis of evil'."

Dear Iraq, I'm sorry that the US claimed publicly that it had no opinion of your plans to invade Kuwait, and claimed privately that we would not stand in your way.

http://www.imisite.org/iraq.php

quote: "On July 25, 1990 the Iraqi president met with April Glaspie, the US ambassador to Iraq. She told him that "we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait." In an increased climate of military escalation and threats against Kuwait, Iraq and Kuwait met to try to work out their differences. The negotiations ended the day before the invasion when the Iraqi delegation walked out, claiming Kuwait was not taking them seriously. Saddam perceived Glaspie's remarks as conciliatory and finally on August 2, 1990, the Iraqi army invaded Kuwait and took over the country in a matter of hours. UN Security Council Resolution 660 was passed condemning the invasion, demanding withdrawal, and calling for immediate Iraq-Kuwait negotiations."

You see, we tricked you. Your march gave us a pretext to take you out. We had to protect the Kuwaiti Royal Family. And we wanted the oil. That's how the game is played, ol boy.

Dear Iraq, I'm sorry we ignored your offer to back down, in exchange for Israeli withdrawal from the West bank.

http://www.sonomacountyfreepress.com/palestine/dsrtstrm.html

quote: "Bush's out of hand dismissal of Saddam Hussein's offer to consider withdrawing in the context of an Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank, Gaza and the Syrian Golan Heights and the departure of Syrian troops from Lebanon, made it clear that the US had greater ambitions than simply removing Iraqi forces from Kuwait."

Dear Iraq, I'm sorry that Bush continues to present false claims of your ties to the 9/11 attack and your cooperation with Al Qaeda, to justify a war for oil.

You don't ACTUALLY need a link to disprove this one, do you? Apparently, some of you do.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001772051


Dear Middle East: AMERICA!!! FUCK YEAHHH!!!!

How about when the president of Iran talked about "wiping Israel off the map" a few weeks ago. Ah, that doesn't matter, right?

You really believe that Iran is enrinching uranium for "energy"? Why would a country sitting on so much oil need nuclear energy? No, they are making nuclear weapons, obviously. But you believe that everything everyone in the world says is a big lie, it's all a conspiracy. That's not a realistic way to look at the world.

Are you an American?

So you are sorry for defending the helpless?



False. The vast majority of the Islamic Community was appalled by the actions of terrorists on September 11th, 2001



And 15 of those nineteen were Saudi nationals. As was Bin Laden. Why aren't we carper bombing Saudi Arabia? In fact why did Bush give in to Bin Laden's demands to withdraw our military bases in Saudi Arabia? Is Bush an appeaser?



As opposed to the working poor of our country living in mansions?



Which leader is that? Which one squanders OUR wealth more than our illegitimus rex George W. Bush?




Again --pot meets kettle. Our Government breeds as much if not MORE hate



Bush can barely travel outside of the White House or Crawford --in his own country or elsewhere. I'm sorry our "President" does not serve the people of this country, nut instead holds onto his personal jihad against anyone who doesn't tow his own personal take on the world.



Hmmm. What percentage of charitable support do you suppose the USA spends out of it's budget. I'll wait for your answer.




Okay --that was just funny.



I'm sorry you think Fox News and the Washington Times are legitimate news sources and not corporate spew rags for this fascistic administration.



Yah --what was the UN take on that again? couple of hundred thousand dollars? Shit man, they need to get to one of them Halliburton seminars to see how it's really done.




Because grieving impoverished starving children of suicide bombers would never ever think of following in Daddy's footsteps. Whereas contented children with full bellys might think twice about it.




Oooooorah indeed.




As opposed to what we do?



Actually the numbers compare almost equally.



Except us.




Uhm --that's Bush's plan ain't it? Can't have a perpetual war on terrorism without makin' a whole bunch of terrorists.



Fuck you.



Fuck you.



Uhm --how do dead people apologize?



Conflating different groups into one all horrible mythological terrorist group is hardly useful.



I'm sorry George Bush is American. All jokes aside about Michael Moore --Bush actually COULD feed millions of people in Africa if he took a leadership role in something other than his crusade against the east.



Yes. Bush will eventually be impeached and brought before The Hague where he is finally tried for international war-crimes. Look foward to it.

Did you really not notice the sarcasm of the sorries?



Yea, I remember not seeing all of those people dancing in the streets in the middle east celebrating 9/11. Oh wait, I do remember seeing that. But the "vast majority" were appalled, right? I'd tell you to go look at the polls taken of people in the ME about 9/11, but you'll just dismiss them as a part of the big conspiracy that you imagine.



I always like this little argument. Saudi Arabia is helping us fight the terrorists. For a long time, there were many people in SA that were helping the terrorists. When SA recognized that the terrorists also wanted them dead, they decided to start helping us. With their police and military killing and capturing terrorists in SA, and also shutting down any of their sources for cash, there's no need for us to invade. I really don't understand why someone that is totally anti-war uses this argument, I guess that's what you do when you run out of stuff that makes any sense.



Hahaha, oh man. What do you think the US should be spending its money on, if not security? Let's give more free money to Africa! When we do that the people that actually need the money sure do get it, right? Oh, wait, it pretty much ends up just going to the dictators that are the ones ruining the lives of their people in the first place. I guess that's not such a good idea.



Bush doesn't travel? You just made that one up. Also, I think you were going for an adjusted version of "toe the line". It's not "tow the line". Toe the line.



Ah, the fact that the US gives way more than anyone isn't good enough for you. You need to find some new metric that makes you feel like the US isn't good enough. Lame.



Isn't it fun to dismiss any information that doesn't fit your beliefs?



More importantly, what was Saddam's take, when the sanctions were supposed to be keeping him down? 10 billion dollars? More? That doesn't matter to you, though. The fact that we now know that sanctions don't work because of corrupt countries like France makes it very much more likely that we'll have more wars instead of sanctions in the future. Your heros are doing great things for the world, huh?




That's the plan? Oh no, you just made that up because you believe in a lot of conspiracies. I used to believe in conspiracies too, before I educated myself. Conspiracies are things that people use to fill in the blanks when they don't have truthful information.



It's not? What about when the huge groups of muslims have parties and shout "Death to America" over and over? That doesn't matter, right? We should just worry about the terrorists who have already attacked us. Being concerned about what causes those people to attack us doesn't even make sense, right?



No, giving more money to Africa only makes people in Africa more reliant on outside aid. It also props up nasty dictators like Mugabe.



No, Bush won't be impeached, that is just your fantasy. The Hague would have to go over quite a few dead bodies to put Bush or pretty much any other American on trial, so that's also not happening. Welcome to reality.

"Sometimes, to remain silent is to lie."
- Miguel de Unamuno, philosopher and writer (1864-1936)

Hahahaha, exactly.

Wow, my heart is broken.

you wanna go play nazi --be my guest.

EVERYONE THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE THE SAME STUFF THAT I DO IS HITLER!!!

You know what Kendra? I really don't care anymore. I'm tired of holding views that no one in this little piece of VIRTUALITY think are allowed. I don't care that you are disappointed in me. I was disappointed in you months ago but did I ever state it publically ? No I didn't.

If folks don't like the way America is being run then by ghod vote to change or move the hell out. Either way I don't give a shit. Have a great day.

Actually you did exactly that. Where do you suppose I got the idea?

Ridiculous. Everyone that doesn't believe the same stuff that I do is merely stupid.

Bush isn't Hitler. He's Bush. That's bad enough.

Can I have your watch when you are dead?

Haha, yea, that's why you called someone a Nazi in this thread for seeing things differently than you do. Smart!

And you believed there were weapons of mass destruction in IRAQ that Saddam was about to unleash. And you believed that Iraq was actively seeking uranium to make into nuclear weapons. And you believed that the "Mission Accomplished" banner meant the mission was accomplished. And you believed that Iraq was directly involved with 9/11. And you believed the President when he said there are fewer terrorist acts since we went to war on terrorism. And you believed when he said we are safer now. And you believed Halliburton deserved all those juicy contracts...

Are you an American?

Hahaha, what are you talking about dude? The world thought that Saddam had WMD stockpiles, not just me. You're pretty sure that he didn't send them out of the country before the war, though. You have a lot of faith about that.
Iraq had plenty of yellow cake uranium under UN seal in the country. That doesn't count though, right?
Yes yes, again with the "Mission Accomplished" sign that you folks are so obsessed with. You'd think your obsession would cause you to try to find more information about the "mission" that the sign referred to, which was the overthrow of Saddam and the Baath. That was very accomplished when that sign was put up. But you like to pretend that it meant something else, so you can pretend that you know something.
No, I've never believed that "Iraq was directly involved with 9/11", nor did Bush ever say anything like that. But you like to pretend that he did, for fun I guess.
We aren't safer now? How do you figure? Oh, you just made that up for fun.
Yea, who got screwed out of working in Iraq by Halliburton? Which other companies can do what they do in Iraq? Oh, that's right, there aren't any.

Keep on believing in conspiracies, though. It's awesome.

No. I said "go play with nazis."

You can go play in traffic, however.

Hahahaha, if you're going to lie about what you said, you should probably first go back and edit your original post.

Went ahead and quoted for the good of the argument. It is most enlightening.

I stand corrected. You have certainly pointed out the huge disparity there.

Good job!

Hahaha, you really don't see the difference between the two statements. Now that is funny.

Thank you, although that's not why I quoted it. Personally I liked the multiple 'fuck yous' better but meh.

I see a difference. I don't see a big difference.

For what it's worth, I really can't respect the opinions of someone named "Stankleberry".

Just not in me.

BTW read the bottom of my sig to see what I really feel about Government.