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Miriel Enfield
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08-07-2006 06:57
tl;dr
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08-07-2006 07:04
I searched the original post for "ageplay", because it was too long to read. Turns out the post doesn't actually discuss ageplay at all, so anyone considering reading it will just be wasting their time.
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08-07-2006 07:20
"blah, blah, blah - too many words, dahling"

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08-07-2006 08:43
From: Taco Rubio
I do appreciate the OP listing a Jesse Helms quote first, though.


Yeah, it let us know that it was pointless to read further. :)
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08-07-2006 08:46
You know something, some of you are extremely bright.
But honestly if it happens with two consenting adults as far as you know, its none of your friggin business.
Yes it might even make me a tad nervous, but hell, I have so much more interesting things in my life to obsesss on what my friggin neighbor is doing..

all this lookie at what other ppl are doing is gettin on my nerves..

and.. if they aren't both adults, lets chop em up and feed em to my dog, sound good?
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08-07-2006 09:10
just curious, but how is this relevant to SL?
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08-07-2006 09:11
From: Duntroon Donburi
just curious, but how is this relevant to SL?


It's not particularly, so I'm moving it to the Sandbox.
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08-07-2006 09:14
The Copypaste is strong with this one!

Musuko.
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08-07-2006 09:21
i ar'd the orginal post because it is obviously a troll. glad to see no one is feeding it.
Liona Clio
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08-07-2006 10:14
No, it's not a Troll. People have some very strong feelings about ageplay. And they have cause; child molestation is not uncommon...and anyone who's been affected by such an act will have a strong revulsion to ageplay.


To those of you who have been molested or affected by molestation; it's understandable why you would find ageplay revolting. Molestation is wrong, there are no two ways about it; and if it happened to you or someone you love, it's a horrible crime.

However. Do not fall into the trap of making yourself a victim for the rest of your life. You have been exposed to something negative. It is now your responsibility to avoid it. No one in SL is forcing you to watch ageplay in action; and there is always an Off button on your computer. You cannot change other people's behaivor, and you cannot save another person from molestation...these are not actions under your control.

I play a flirtaeous young female on SL. Liona sometimes can look like a teenager. So I suppose I can qualify as one of those evil "ageplayers" people rant about so much. And I have this to say in regards to these righteously indignant people:

GET OVER YOURSELVES.

If you have problems handling the events that happened in your life, you're certainly not capable of handling the events in mine. We truly need to shut down this witch hunt; because it's really started to have no other purpose than its own perpetuity
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08-07-2006 10:21
From: Fmeh Tagore
I must say, that has to be the longest post I've ever seen in a forum.



AMEN!!!
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08-07-2006 10:52
From: Fmeh Tagore
I must say, that has to be the longest post I've ever seen in a forum.

You're new here, aren't you? ;)
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08-07-2006 11:03
I stopped after the Jessie Helms quote. I can only handle so much garbage in a single day.
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08-07-2006 11:57
Not fair! I read all that but there was NO mention or even indication of anything like age play in that article. What a con.
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08-07-2006 12:03
its a troll.
Erindale Hunt
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08-09-2006 08:23
um um whats ageplay XD i came here to figure that out and i didn't wanna read the huge rant in the first post.
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08-09-2006 08:27
From: Fmeh Tagore
I must say, that has to be the longest post I've ever seen in a forum.



Thats becuase you never saw Prok

;p
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08-09-2006 08:27
From: Erindale Hunt
um um whats ageplay XD i came here to figure that out and i didn't wanna read the huge rant in the first post.

Its a relationship where one or more of the participants uses a childlike avatar and the others treat them as children, but some carry that over into sexual relations.
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08-09-2006 08:30
From: Erindale Hunt
um um whats ageplay XD i came here to figure that out and i didn't wanna read the huge rant in the first post.


Ageplay: The act of roleplaying a child/teenager. The term has come to specifically refer to roleplaying sexual acts as these child personas.
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08-09-2006 08:43
From: Lucifer Baphomet
Ageplay is no different from the games people play in their bedrooms without a thought.....
The women who call their lover "daddy"
Or the old "I've been a bad boy/girl, spank me."

I guess theyre all closet paedophiles too.


I think theres a distinction between somone acting silly as an adult.

And an adult actively roleplaying a teen or young child engaging in sex.

IRL or in SL.

I think as far as ageplay and AVS who are under-aged and sex goes. Is becuase pediophillia IRL is so wide spread the ageplayers should make a definite effort to keep a low profile.

I have known 2 women who Roleplay teenage avs come on to an adult I know who is not into Age Play- basically actively encouraging sex. One of whom intended to use the club I ran as a venue to meet "aunties" for sex. (I banned her for it )

Similarily in a RL bar if someone came in and said they were 15 and would someone please buy them a drink and take them home, they wouldnt be allowed into the bar. Even if they looked over 21. (Im assuming an ageplayer wouldnt then produce ID and spoil the ruse - I dunno)

All that being said. Age play is not usually pushed in peoples faces in SL. The forums would have you beelive its far more common and hard to avoid than it is.

I have personally never been approched by a "underage" av for anything at all sexual.

And the vast majority of those in teen and kid avatars use adult ones for any sexual play.
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08-09-2006 09:44
From: Damien Skolem
CHILD MOLESTERS AND CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN
"These people are intellectually dishonest. They start by pretending that it's just another form of love" (Jessie Helms)

Child sexual abuse comes in many forms and is an extremely difficult crime to deal with, but it is important to remain emotionally detached and have an open mind. Abuse of children and sexual perversion has been a fact of life throughout history. That particular topic tends to be taboo, so rather than finding a history of reasoned discourse, one is more likely to encounter only glimmers of good insight in the extant literature. Of interest is the growing investigative expertise in this area, as in forensic psychology (see this Lecture on The Psychology of Sexual Predation). As can be expected, though, there are a number of controversies and/or myths in this area. Whole pages could be written on the myths, but one of the most important, at least according to most mental health and medical professionals, is that pedophilia is truly a disease (and should never be considered normal), while none of the things which make homosexuality a normal variation of human sexuality apply to pedophilia (all mention of homosexuality was purged from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual in 1987). This is important, since it is easy to confuse pedophilia and homosexuality, especially under "do something" pressure conditions. This document analyzes some basic forms of crimes involving children and related behaviors that investigators need to understand in order to more cooly, calmly, and effectively apprehend these kind of offenders:
STATUTORY RAPE, indecent liberties, window peeping, and indecent exposure
JUVENILE RAPE, disseminating harmful material, sexual exploitation of a minor
INCEST, crimes against nature, bigamy, fornication, adultery, wives of molesters
PEDOPHILIA, common characteristics, typologies, offender profiles
Statutory Rape involves a consensual situation in which force is not involved and the only consideration is the age of consent, established by each state legislature (usually 13, 14, or 15 years old), and the age of the perpetrator (usually more than 4 years older than the victim). The victim is almost always a female and the perpetrator almost always male. American culture reflects this in the notion of "jail bait" and "I didn't know she was underage." Punishments vary widely, but statutory rape is usually a lower-level felony crime. As anyone knows who has looked at the teenage pregnancy statistics, there is a considerable amount of sex taking place with this age group. Therefore, it is seldom prosecuted, and when it is, it is usually plea bargained down from a rape (being in the violent crime category) to an indecent liberties charge (or something else in the offenses against public morality and decency). Indecent liberties is usually a misdemeanor and covers sex between or with anybody below a certain age (usually 16 years of age). The charge of indecent liberties is sometimes used to avoid getting into whether vaginal or anal penetration occurred. The settled law on this, as with many sex crimes, is that the most important element is any lewd or lascivious intent to arouse or gratify sexual desire (i.e., motive as the critical criminal element).

Some crimes that are related to statutory rape might include window peeping because typically the same age group is involved, and the offense always (by law usually) involves a female victim. An oddity is that no law prohibits women from peeping on men. Another related offense is indecent exposure, or "flashing" as it's called. Although the common stereotype is of some old man in a trench coat, the reality is that this behavior often involves people of young age. Both peeping and flashing are relatively simple misdemeanors that have not attracted much criminological interest.

Juvenile Rape, on the other hand, involves a forcible situation in which the victim is a juvenile (age 13, 14, or 15) or there is an age difference between perpetrator (over age 18) and victim (like statutory rape). The victim can be male or female, and if we counted all these kinds of offenses that occur in an institutionalized setting (juvenile prisons, camps, hospitals, military schools, etc.), we might find that males are the predominant victim. In most cases, however, the perpetrator fits one of the profiles of ordinary serial rapists with two exceptions, there is more of a chance the perpetrator is white and an acquaintance of the victim. There is also some small evidence to suggest that if the juvenile victim screams and resists, this tends to help the situation, whereas the reverse is more likely true with adult victims. Juvenile rape is a serious offense deserving of more criminological attention.

Juvenile rape tends to come in two forms, first- and second-degree, depending upon whether injury or harm comes to the victim. The behavior must be against the will of the other person, thus raising the nonconsent factor which is ironic because "shield laws" protect adult victims but not juvenile victims. Fortunately, nonconsent does not come up much with juvenile rape because the victim is usually presented in court as mentally incapacitated or physically helpless in some way due to their youthful age. Also, whereas statutory rape is usually limited to vaginal or anal intercourse, juvenile rape and related offenses cover a wide ground of sexual acts: including cunnilingus, fellatio, anilingus, touching, etc. A number of related offenses exist on the basis of behavioral similarity, such as disseminating harmful material to a minor and sexual exploitation of a minor. The former would involve providing the minor with any material that depicts sexually explicit nudity or activity (a common seductive ploy of some rapists and pedophiles), and the latter would involve videotaping the victim while engaged in sexual activity.

Juvenile sex offenders are typically between the ages of 13 and 17, male, and have difficulties with impulse control and judgment. About 40% have some type of learning disability, and as many as 80% have some type of diagnosed psychiatric disorder. 30% have a history of physical abuse, and 60% have a history of sexual abuse. While a history of sexual abuse is significant, it should not alone be considered the cause of future abusing. A number of other factors play into the creation of a sex offender, and there are documented numbers of cases where someone was sexually abused as a child and never became a sex offender (Becker & Murphy 1998).

Incest is a sexual relationship with a near relative (including parent-child, grandparent-grandchild, brother-sister, uncles, aunts, first or second cousins, although in the majority of states, SEX BETWEEN COUSINS IS NOT CONSIDERED INCEST). The law of Incest covers stepchildren and half as well as whole blood relatives. Parent and child relationships are the most frequently reported, although brother and sister relationships are not uncommon. The following table (which also provides some information about pedophiles) should help to understand the incestual offender:



Incestual offenders are often behaviorally similar to those who commit crimes against nature, bigamy, fornication, and adultery. Crimes against nature involves sex with animals or birds. Bigamy is having more than one wife. Fornication is cohabiting with someone who is not your wife, and adultery is bedding with someone who is not your wife. The punishments vary widely, with perhaps crimes against nature carrying the stiffest penalty. Incest penalties are usually a low-level felony or misdemeanor. The study of incest has been conducted in a variety of fields, and there is little interdisciplinary agreement to be found in the literature.

One of the interesting areas of work with incestual (enmeshed) families is to focus upon the wives of perpetrators. There are some interesting dynamics involved in the extremes to which the wives of perpetrators will defend their husband. An interesting typology (I think) can be attributed to the Giaretto model (a California-based form of treatment) which offers the following classification of wives of men who molest:

the WORN OUT
the SILENT
the ZOMBIE
the COERCED INVOLVEMENT
the SEXUAL PSYCHOPATH
the INNOCENT
the GEISHA

Pedophilia has peculiar characteristics. It is regarded as an incurable condition in which the preferred sexual object (or fetish) is a child, but it also involves some obsessive-compulsive characteristics similar to the fantasy-driven cycles of serial killers. The pedophile may be any adult, male or female, heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, married, or single. Heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual men and women may become sexually attracted to children even though they're also attracted to adults. When this happens, the offender is usually a regressed offender who "bounces back and forth" between normal sexual relationships and criminal relations with children. This is the group that most people think of when they talk about "child molesters." Some peculiar characteristics include:

they have MULTIPLE VICTIMS (they will often brag about how they've had sex with hundreds and perhaps over a thousand children) This bragging behavior will often be accompanied by other forms of narcissism.
they lock into A CERTAIN AGE RANGE (most prefer them young because this minimizes the chance of pregnancy and vaginal infection) In fact, some pedophile groups have the saying "Eight is too late." They also lock into a certain gender. A pedophile who prefers boys will usually not molest girls, and vice versa. There is an 11:1 ratio of heterosexual pedophiles to homosexual ones.
they actively seek out OPPORTUNITIES TO BE AROUND CHILDREN in their preferred age range. It is not uncommon for a pedophile to be a teacher, coach, youth director at church, YMCA, boy scout leader, day care worker, babysitter, child psychologist, child photographer, or in some other way be in trusted and daily contact with children. They stalk their victims no matter where it takes them.
they are usually actively involved or at least associated with RELIGION. This is also true of the Incest perpetrator. Church involvement may be out of guilt, but in most cases is suspected to be done simply to throw off suspicion. The pedophile, particularly, works hard to establish a good reputation in the community as an outstanding citizen or community leader.
they are COLLECTORS (of sex toys, sexual aids, tape recordings, erotic literature, pictures, books on human sexuality, diaries, lists of victims, photographic equipment and darkrooms, videotapes and music in their preferred age range), and they enjoy one or more sexual perversions which may or may not be their signature pattern.
they are masters at the art of SEDUCTION. They will take however much time as it takes to seduce the child, and are usually patient, and like to have several "prospects" in various stages of seduction at any one time. Seductive bonding takes place between molester and victim and should not be confused with consent, complicity, or guilt.
In the most common typology (the Burgess, Groth, and Holmstrom model), there are two (2) main types of pedophiles: the SITUATIONAL and the PREFERENTIAL. The difference between these two main types is that situational pedophiles will stalk almost any vulnerable group (the elderly, the handicapped, etc.) and the preferential pedophile will stick to children of a certain age range. The situational type also prefers children, but will select "second-best" victims when under stress. The preferential type doesn't experience stress.

Within the SITUATIONAL type, there are three (3) subtypes:

(1) the REGRESSED pedophile. This subtype leads the most stable life of the situational types. They prefer female victims, and enjoy seducing strangers. Oral and vaginal intercourse is their goal. They are the only one of the situational types who use child pornography and may surf the Internet looking for victims, but will settle for old ladies in nursing homes or just about any vulnerable group when there is a crisis in their life. They tend to always keep a "stable" of potential victims in various stages of seduction. Although they often "bounce back and forth" between normal sexual relationships and criminal relations with children, they generally have some insecurity, stress, or frustration relating to the demands of social skills in adult relationships. Some are remorseful; others are not.

(2) the INDISCRIMINATE pedophile. This subtype behaves like a wife-swapper, a charming, "cool" character who is willing to try anything, even incest, bestiality, you-name-it. This person waits a long time until they get to know you, and then they want to bring you into their "world". That world often consists of child pornography and helping them obtain child victims, or any other vulnerable group, but they will soon make it clear they prefer children and at a certain age. THE MAIN SOURCE OF NEW VICTIMS FOR PEDOPHILES IS A REFERRAL (SNOWBALL) FROM AN OLD VICTIM.

(3) the IMMATURE pedophile. This subtype, also known as the naive pedophile, will appear to be "mental" or quite strange. They tend to stalk around their own neighborhood, and will usually not travel great distances to get new victims. Their preferred form of intercourse is anal, then oral, but there are often times when they are completely happy just having fondled their victims. There are also times when they don't care what age their victim is. They tend to lead stressful lives.

Within the PREFERENTIAL type, there are two (2) subtypes:

(4) the SEDUCTIVE pedophile. This subtype, also know as the fixated type, will seduce or court their victims, often buying them gifts, flowers, toys, or loaning them money. As this person slowly becomes more intimate with the child, they begin to introduce sexual innuendo and eventually sexual pornography and paraphenalia. This type is almost always homosexual and prefers boys only. They operate on a referral network, and are very likely to surf the Internet looking for stimulation and potential victims, although, they almost always seem to have a "stable" of victims in various stages of seduction. They go wherever a good pool of potential victims can be found.

(5) the SADISTIC pedophile. This subtype, also called a mysoped, stalks, prefers anal sex, mutilates the genitals, and in some cases, kills and cannibalizes their victim. They usually will travel great geographic distances to stalk just the right victim, and have an elaborate, blitz attack or abduction ploy worked out to sidetrack the parents and authorities. This individual leads a rather transient existence, but is likely to have a fairly good-paying, white-collar job and a dependable car.

Can someone please pass me the cliff notes.

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08-09-2006 09:48
From: Billy Grace
Can someone please pass me the cliff notes.

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You were sadistic to quote the OP :p
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08-09-2006 09:50
From: Joy Honey
You were sadistic to quote the OP :p

You mean this?
From: Damien Skolem
CHILD MOLESTERS AND CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN
"These people are intellectually dishonest. They start by pretending that it's just another form of love" (Jessie Helms)

Child sexual abuse comes in many forms and is an extremely difficult crime to deal with, but it is important to remain emotionally detached and have an open mind. Abuse of children and sexual perversion has been a fact of life throughout history. That particular topic tends to be taboo, so rather than finding a history of reasoned discourse, one is more likely to encounter only glimmers of good insight in the extant literature. Of interest is the growing investigative expertise in this area, as in forensic psychology (see this Lecture on The Psychology of Sexual Predation). As can be expected, though, there are a number of controversies and/or myths in this area. Whole pages could be written on the myths, but one of the most important, at least according to most mental health and medical professionals, is that pedophilia is truly a disease (and should never be considered normal), while none of the things which make homosexuality a normal variation of human sexuality apply to pedophilia (all mention of homosexuality was purged from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual in 1987). This is important, since it is easy to confuse pedophilia and homosexuality, especially under "do something" pressure conditions. This document analyzes some basic forms of crimes involving children and related behaviors that investigators need to understand in order to more cooly, calmly, and effectively apprehend these kind of offenders:
STATUTORY RAPE, indecent liberties, window peeping, and indecent exposure
JUVENILE RAPE, disseminating harmful material, sexual exploitation of a minor
INCEST, crimes against nature, bigamy, fornication, adultery, wives of molesters
PEDOPHILIA, common characteristics, typologies, offender profiles
Statutory Rape involves a consensual situation in which force is not involved and the only consideration is the age of consent, established by each state legislature (usually 13, 14, or 15 years old), and the age of the perpetrator (usually more than 4 years older than the victim). The victim is almost always a female and the perpetrator almost always male. American culture reflects this in the notion of "jail bait" and "I didn't know she was underage." Punishments vary widely, but statutory rape is usually a lower-level felony crime. As anyone knows who has looked at the teenage pregnancy statistics, there is a considerable amount of sex taking place with this age group. Therefore, it is seldom prosecuted, and when it is, it is usually plea bargained down from a rape (being in the violent crime category) to an indecent liberties charge (or something else in the offenses against public morality and decency). Indecent liberties is usually a misdemeanor and covers sex between or with anybody below a certain age (usually 16 years of age). The charge of indecent liberties is sometimes used to avoid getting into whether vaginal or anal penetration occurred. The settled law on this, as with many sex crimes, is that the most important element is any lewd or lascivious intent to arouse or gratify sexual desire (i.e., motive as the critical criminal element).

Some crimes that are related to statutory rape might include window peeping because typically the same age group is involved, and the offense always (by law usually) involves a female victim. An oddity is that no law prohibits women from peeping on men. Another related offense is indecent exposure, or "flashing" as it's called. Although the common stereotype is of some old man in a trench coat, the reality is that this behavior often involves people of young age. Both peeping and flashing are relatively simple misdemeanors that have not attracted much criminological interest.

Juvenile Rape, on the other hand, involves a forcible situation in which the victim is a juvenile (age 13, 14, or 15) or there is an age difference between perpetrator (over age 18) and victim (like statutory rape). The victim can be male or female, and if we counted all these kinds of offenses that occur in an institutionalized setting (juvenile prisons, camps, hospitals, military schools, etc.), we might find that males are the predominant victim. In most cases, however, the perpetrator fits one of the profiles of ordinary serial rapists with two exceptions, there is more of a chance the perpetrator is white and an acquaintance of the victim. There is also some small evidence to suggest that if the juvenile victim screams and resists, this tends to help the situation, whereas the reverse is more likely true with adult victims. Juvenile rape is a serious offense deserving of more criminological attention.

Juvenile rape tends to come in two forms, first- and second-degree, depending upon whether injury or harm comes to the victim. The behavior must be against the will of the other person, thus raising the nonconsent factor which is ironic because "shield laws" protect adult victims but not juvenile victims. Fortunately, nonconsent does not come up much with juvenile rape because the victim is usually presented in court as mentally incapacitated or physically helpless in some way due to their youthful age. Also, whereas statutory rape is usually limited to vaginal or anal intercourse, juvenile rape and related offenses cover a wide ground of sexual acts: including cunnilingus, fellatio, anilingus, touching, etc. A number of related offenses exist on the basis of behavioral similarity, such as disseminating harmful material to a minor and sexual exploitation of a minor. The former would involve providing the minor with any material that depicts sexually explicit nudity or activity (a common seductive ploy of some rapists and pedophiles), and the latter would involve videotaping the victim while engaged in sexual activity.

Juvenile sex offenders are typically between the ages of 13 and 17, male, and have difficulties with impulse control and judgment. About 40% have some type of learning disability, and as many as 80% have some type of diagnosed psychiatric disorder. 30% have a history of physical abuse, and 60% have a history of sexual abuse. While a history of sexual abuse is significant, it should not alone be considered the cause of future abusing. A number of other factors play into the creation of a sex offender, and there are documented numbers of cases where someone was sexually abused as a child and never became a sex offender (Becker & Murphy 1998).

Incest is a sexual relationship with a near relative (including parent-child, grandparent-grandchild, brother-sister, uncles, aunts, first or second cousins, although in the majority of states, SEX BETWEEN COUSINS IS NOT CONSIDERED INCEST). The law of Incest covers stepchildren and half as well as whole blood relatives. Parent and child relationships are the most frequently reported, although brother and sister relationships are not uncommon. The following table (which also provides some information about pedophiles) should help to understand the incestual offender:



Incestual offenders are often behaviorally similar to those who commit crimes against nature, bigamy, fornication, and adultery. Crimes against nature involves sex with animals or birds. Bigamy is having more than one wife. Fornication is cohabiting with someone who is not your wife, and adultery is bedding with someone who is not your wife. The punishments vary widely, with perhaps crimes against nature carrying the stiffest penalty. Incest penalties are usually a low-level felony or misdemeanor. The study of incest has been conducted in a variety of fields, and there is little interdisciplinary agreement to be found in the literature.

One of the interesting areas of work with incestual (enmeshed) families is to focus upon the wives of perpetrators. There are some interesting dynamics involved in the extremes to which the wives of perpetrators will defend their husband. An interesting typology (I think) can be attributed to the Giaretto model (a California-based form of treatment) which offers the following classification of wives of men who molest:

the WORN OUT
the SILENT
the ZOMBIE
the COERCED INVOLVEMENT
the SEXUAL PSYCHOPATH
the INNOCENT
the GEISHA

Pedophilia has peculiar characteristics. It is regarded as an incurable condition in which the preferred sexual object (or fetish) is a child, but it also involves some obsessive-compulsive characteristics similar to the fantasy-driven cycles of serial killers. The pedophile may be any adult, male or female, heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, married, or single. Heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual men and women may become sexually attracted to children even though they're also attracted to adults. When this happens, the offender is usually a regressed offender who "bounces back and forth" between normal sexual relationships and criminal relations with children. This is the group that most people think of when they talk about "child molesters." Some peculiar characteristics include:

they have MULTIPLE VICTIMS (they will often brag about how they've had sex with hundreds and perhaps over a thousand children) This bragging behavior will often be accompanied by other forms of narcissism.
they lock into A CERTAIN AGE RANGE (most prefer them young because this minimizes the chance of pregnancy and vaginal infection) In fact, some pedophile groups have the saying "Eight is too late." They also lock into a certain gender. A pedophile who prefers boys will usually not molest girls, and vice versa. There is an 11:1 ratio of heterosexual pedophiles to homosexual ones.
they actively seek out OPPORTUNITIES TO BE AROUND CHILDREN in their preferred age range. It is not uncommon for a pedophile to be a teacher, coach, youth director at church, YMCA, boy scout leader, day care worker, babysitter, child psychologist, child photographer, or in some other way be in trusted and daily contact with children. They stalk their victims no matter where it takes them.
they are usually actively involved or at least associated with RELIGION. This is also true of the Incest perpetrator. Church involvement may be out of guilt, but in most cases is suspected to be done simply to throw off suspicion. The pedophile, particularly, works hard to establish a good reputation in the community as an outstanding citizen or community leader.
they are COLLECTORS (of sex toys, sexual aids, tape recordings, erotic literature, pictures, books on human sexuality, diaries, lists of victims, photographic equipment and darkrooms, videotapes and music in their preferred age range), and they enjoy one or more sexual perversions which may or may not be their signature pattern.
they are masters at the art of SEDUCTION. They will take however much time as it takes to seduce the child, and are usually patient, and like to have several "prospects" in various stages of seduction at any one time. Seductive bonding takes place between molester and victim and should not be confused with consent, complicity, or guilt.
In the most common typology (the Burgess, Groth, and Holmstrom model), there are two (2) main types of pedophiles: the SITUATIONAL and the PREFERENTIAL. The difference between these two main types is that situational pedophiles will stalk almost any vulnerable group (the elderly, the handicapped, etc.) and the preferential pedophile will stick to children of a certain age range. The situational type also prefers children, but will select "second-best" victims when under stress. The preferential type doesn't experience stress.

Within the SITUATIONAL type, there are three (3) subtypes:

(1) the REGRESSED pedophile. This subtype leads the most stable life of the situational types. They prefer female victims, and enjoy seducing strangers. Oral and vaginal intercourse is their goal. They are the only one of the situational types who use child pornography and may surf the Internet looking for victims, but will settle for old ladies in nursing homes or just about any vulnerable group when there is a crisis in their life. They tend to always keep a "stable" of potential victims in various stages of seduction. Although they often "bounce back and forth" between normal sexual relationships and criminal relations with children, they generally have some insecurity, stress, or frustration relating to the demands of social skills in adult relationships. Some are remorseful; others are not.

(2) the INDISCRIMINATE pedophile. This subtype behaves like a wife-swapper, a charming, "cool" character who is willing to try anything, even incest, bestiality, you-name-it. This person waits a long time until they get to know you, and then they want to bring you into their "world". That world often consists of child pornography and helping them obtain child victims, or any other vulnerable group, but they will soon make it clear they prefer children and at a certain age. THE MAIN SOURCE OF NEW VICTIMS FOR PEDOPHILES IS A REFERRAL (SNOWBALL) FROM AN OLD VICTIM.

(3) the IMMATURE pedophile. This subtype, also known as the naive pedophile, will appear to be "mental" or quite strange. They tend to stalk around their own neighborhood, and will usually not travel great distances to get new victims. Their preferred form of intercourse is anal, then oral, but there are often times when they are completely happy just having fondled their victims. There are also times when they don't care what age their victim is. They tend to lead stressful lives.

Within the PREFERENTIAL type, there are two (2) subtypes:

(4) the SEDUCTIVE pedophile. This subtype, also know as the fixated type, will seduce or court their victims, often buying them gifts, flowers, toys, or loaning them money. As this person slowly becomes more intimate with the child, they begin to introduce sexual innuendo and eventually sexual pornography and paraphenalia. This type is almost always homosexual and prefers boys only. They operate on a referral network, and are very likely to surf the Internet looking for stimulation and potential victims, although, they almost always seem to have a "stable" of victims in various stages of seduction. They go wherever a good pool of potential victims can be found.

(5) the SADISTIC pedophile. This subtype, also called a mysoped, stalks, prefers anal sex, mutilates the genitals, and in some cases, kills and cannibalizes their victim. They usually will travel great geographic distances to stalk just the right victim, and have an elaborate, blitz attack or abduction ploy worked out to sidetrack the parents and authorities. This individual leads a rather transient existence, but is likely to have a fairly good-paying, white-collar job and a dependable car.

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bantifur Zapotocky
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08-09-2006 09:52
Anyone wanna age rape play? I wanna rape a little girl. Anyone up for it?
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08-09-2006 09:54
From: Billy Grace
You mean this?

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