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Chip Midnight
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08-27-2006 13:33
This woman scares me... From: someone ORLANDO, Fla. — Rep. Katherine Harris, a Florida Republican who is seeking a U.S. Senate seat, said this week that God did not intend for the United States to be a "nation of secular laws" and that a failure to elect Christians to political office will allow lawmaking bodies to "legislate sin." The remarks, published in the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention, unleashed a torrent of criticism from political and religious officials.
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., said she was "disgusted" by the comments "and deeply disappointed in Rep. Harris personally."
Harris, Wasserman Schultz said, "clearly shows that she does not deserve to be a representative ... ."
State Rep. Irv Slosberg, D-Boca Raton, demanded an apology, saying Harris' statements were "outrageous, even by her standards."
"What is going through this woman's mind?" Slosberg said. "We do not live in a theocracy."
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Teeny Leviathan
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08-27-2006 13:40
Don't you just love when politicians claim to be God's personal confidant? I guess God told her to screw up the Florida 2000 election results because America needed to be stuck in a Middle East quagmire.
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08-27-2006 13:40
She's just a symptom ...
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Chip Midnight
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08-27-2006 13:45
From: Alex Fitzsimmons She's just a symptom ... Yep, and that's the truly frightening thing.
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Chip Midnight
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08-27-2006 13:50
She must have had her fingers in her ears when he said "Oh, don't grovel! If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people groveling!!"
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08-27-2006 13:55
Katherine Harris.
*shiver*
I could post a long-winded rant about her actions in Florida in November of 2000, but I think I'll just hide from the scary lady instead.
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08-27-2006 14:16
We should call her "Scary Plate Lady" in honour of Monica from Friends.
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Kiamat Dusk
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08-27-2006 16:02
I'd vote against her. I want my clergy in the church, not in the Congress. Theocracies are universally bad no matter what religion is in charge. Oh, and I wonder why Chip decided to leave out the other half of the story? Maybe because it doesn't help me paint all Republicans in a negative light? Just a theory... From: someone ...The criticism was not limited to Democrats.
Ruby Brooks, a veteran Tampa Bay Republican activist, said Harris' remarks "were offensive to me as a Christian and a Republican."
Jillian Hasner, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, said: "I don't think it's representative of the Republican Party at all. Our party is much bigger and better than Katherine Harris is trying to make it."
The fallout follows an interview published in the Florida Baptist Witness, the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention. Witness editors interviewed candidates, asking them to describe their faith and positions on certain issues.
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Harris said her religious beliefs "animate" everything she does, including her votes in Congress.
She then warned voters that if they do not send Christians to office, they risk creating a government that is doomed to fail.
"If you are not electing Christians, tried and true, under public scrutiny and pressure, if you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," she said, citing abortion and gay marriage as two examples of that sin.
"Whenever we legislate sin," she said, "and we say abortion is permissible and we say gay unions are permissible, then average citizens who are not Christians, because they don't know better, we are leading them astray and it's wrong."
Harris also said the separation of church and state is a "lie we have been told" to keep religious people out of politics.
In reality, she said, "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will.
Harris campaign spokesman Jennifer Marks would not answer questions about the Harris interview and, instead, released a two-sentence statement.
"Congresswoman Harris encourages Americans from all walks of life and faith to participate in our government. She continues to be an unwavering advocate of religious rights and freedoms."
The notion that non-Christians "don't know better" or are less suited to govern disturbed Rabbi Rick Sherwin, president of the Greater Orlando Board of Rabbis.
"Anybody who claims to have a monopoly on God," he said, "doesn't understand the strength of America."
Harris is running against Orlando attorney Will McBride, retired Adm. LeRoy Collins and developer Peter Monroe in the GOP Senate primary. ...and now you know the rest of the story. -Kiamat Dusk
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08-27-2006 17:16
From: Kiamat Dusk Oh, and I wonder why Chip decided to leave out the other half of the story? Maybe because it doesn't help me paint all Republicans in a negative light? Just a theory... I don't think you should be worrying about me making your party look bad. You've got plenty of people actually in the party to do that for you. *smirk* (and FYI, quoting full articles violates copyright law. Quoting a portion and linking to the original doesn't).
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08-27-2006 17:29
The really sad part is she will probably win.
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Uma Bauhaus
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08-27-2006 17:44
Hey, you got your religious dogma in my political rhetoric!
You got your political rhetoric in my religious dogma!
Blech, these taste like shit together.
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08-27-2006 21:29
From: Uma Bauhaus Hey, you got your religious dogma in my political rhetoric!
You got your political rhetoric in my religious dogma!
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08-27-2006 21:37
i have several names for her, none of which are repeatable in polite company...
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08-27-2006 22:08
From: Chip Midnight I don't think you should be worrying about me making your party look bad. You've got plenty of people actually in the party to do that for you. *smirk* (and FYI, quoting full articles violates copyright law. Quoting a portion and linking to the original doesn't). Both major parties and the minor ones are full of idiots. I seriously think that the desire to be a politician may be a form of mental illness accompanied by a host of other symptoms. In fact it's beginning to look to me like the human brain is set to 'insanity mode' by default. 
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08-27-2006 23:00
From: Devlin Gallant Both major parties and the minor ones are full of idiots. You'll get no argument from me on that.
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08-28-2006 02:24
I wish we'd drop the whole party system altogether, from top to bottom, and then people would have to vote on people as individuals.
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08-28-2006 08:41
From: Fmeh Tagore I wish we'd drop the whole party system altogether, from top to bottom, and then people would have to vote on people as individuals. I think elections should be done "Survivor" style. I want to see the candidates compete nightly in contests of knowledge, history, critical thinking, ability to be rational under duress, presentations of proposed policy, and so on. Then we can vote them out one by one.
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08-28-2006 08:44
From: Chip Midnight I think elections should be done "Survivor" style. I want to see the candidates compete nightly in contests of knowledge, history, critical thinking, ability to be rational under duress, presentations of proposed policy, and so on. Then we can vote them out one by one. 
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08-28-2006 10:11
So what is it with Harris... Its ok for her to sin and throw the 2000 election, but no one else can sin eh? Opinion and commentary by Magnum Serpentine |
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08-28-2006 10:13
From: Kiamat Dusk I'd vote against her. I want my clergy in the church, not in the Congress. Theocracies are universally bad no matter what religion is in charge.
Oh, and I wonder why Chip decided to leave out the other half of the story? Maybe because it doesn't help me paint all Republicans in a negative light? Just a theory...
...and now you know the rest of the story.
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08-28-2006 10:23
From: Magnum Serpentine Because it was not needed. And all you are doing is trying to throw mud and troll at it. 
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08-28-2006 12:14
From: Flavian Molinari The really sad part is she will probably win. , no she won't. She can't raise money, she chases her campaign staff away, she makes George W. Bush look like a Rhodes Scholar every time she opens her mouth, and her corruption issues make Tom DeLay look like a priest. Plus, she's running against an incumbent, and her own party hates her (34% of GOPpers prefer Senator Nelson). In short, Bill Nelson is cruising to re-election. The last poll I saw had her garnering 33%. Don't worry about Harris - it's a miracle she ever got elected to the House, let alone Senate. From: Magnum Serpentine And all you are doing is trying to throw mud and troll at it. Oh, you mean kinda like you? From: Magnum Serpentine So what is it with Harris... Its ok for her to sin and throw the 2000 election, but no one else can sin eh?
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08-28-2006 12:16
From: Magnum Serpentine And all you are doing is trying to throw mud and troll at it. Oh, you mean kinda like you? From: Magnum Serpentine So what is it with Harris... Its ok for her to sin and throw the 2000 election, but no one else can sin eh?
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08-28-2006 12:33
From: Toni Bentham In short, Bill Nelson is cruising to re-election. I hope he wins. Be Bop Deluxe was a great band.
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