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Uma and Ulrika: Fiasco

Hooch Matador
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07-28-2006 18:29
From: Kevn Klein
It was fun catching Uma. ;)


ask Ulrika which of us figured it out first... slacker

btw, you give christians a bad name...

just sayin'
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Briana Dawson
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07-28-2006 18:49
From: Kevn Klein
I've never concerned myself with what other's think about me.

Thats nice to know because I consider you to be one enormous heinous anus. :eek:

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. I meant to say "pompous ass" . :D

Briana Dawson
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Joy Honey
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07-28-2006 18:54
From: Briana Dawson
Thats nice to know because I consider you to be one enormous heinous anus. :eek:

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. I meant to say "pompous ass" . :D

Briana Dawson


I bet he doesn't think YOU are an alt :D
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Cristiano Midnight
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07-28-2006 18:54
Thank you for giving me my own special monicker, Ulrika :) CrisMid certainly is better than [Name omitted] or Prokofy's insistence on calling me Anal Ano.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-28-2006 19:01
I have to run to the store and then SciFi Friday starts, so I'll be out most of the evening. I just wanted to let everyone know quickly who's offering me jobs and accolades on the art that I did not draw this. I found it on the web and added my own text.

Also, Uma Bauhaus has been the Neualtenburg Treasurer for the past year and a half and has found new life as my better half. The fact that she was my alt was a secret to only the uninformed. :D

Finally, sorry for the "CrisMid" moniker. It's simply a way to get around the ToS but I agree it's better than Prok's. ;)

~Ulrika~
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Chik-chik-chika-ahh
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07-28-2006 19:12
I'd compliment you, Ulrika, but then Kevn would take that as simple-minded evidence that I was you. ;)
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pandastrong Fairplay
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07-28-2006 19:13
<3
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Vares Solvang
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07-28-2006 19:16
From: pandastrong Fairplay
<3



Less than 3? :confused: Oh come on, it rates at least a 6 for creativity alone!
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07-28-2006 19:37
From: Vares Solvang
Less than 3? :confused: Oh come on, it rates at least a 6 for creativity alone!


That is a heart sign, not a rating.
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vivi Odets
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07-28-2006 19:42
From: Vares Solvang
Did you actually draw all that Ulrika? Your talent is really amazing. The thriller animation was pretty impressive on it's own, but this is really excellent.

(for those who haven't seen it: http://www.ulrikasheim.org/animation/thriller/Thriller-640x480-DivX-mp4.mov)


Edit: No Kevn, I am not one of Ulrika's alts. I just appreciate outstanding art when I see it, regardless of who the artist is.)


And, of course, you got permission, right? You would never abuse anyone else's IP.
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Hooch Matador
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07-28-2006 19:57
yeah ill bet shes raking in the dough...


*cough* parody *cough* satire *cough* art *cough*
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Joannah Cramer
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07-28-2006 19:59
From: vivi Odets
And, of course, you got permission, right? You would never abuse anyone else's IP.

If you mean Thriller video, it can be likely treated as parody, and it's just small part of the full clip so as such should fall under fair use clause... this comic page thing is a bit more iffy, since no credit was given to original author whatsoever. But then it's not like plenty people "on the intraweb" pay attention to copyrights other than their own ^^;;
vivi Odets
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07-28-2006 20:01
From: Hooch Matador
yeah ill bet shes raking in the dough...


*cough* parody *cough* satire *cough* art *cough*


*cough* hypocracy *cough* double standards *cough* character *cough* just sayin' *cough*
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07-28-2006 20:03
Pa. Ro. Dy.
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vivi Odets
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07-28-2006 20:06
From: Phedre Aquitaine
Pa. Ro. Dy.


IP. Theft.

Sorry, I'm not interested in letting Ms. Z off the hook here -- she is the one who has so relentlessly and eloquently drawn the line in the sand regarding IP use and theft. I would expect her to have higher standards.
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07-28-2006 20:24
Wow Vivi. Try this.
アクセス解析. このページはフレームを使用しています。フレーム機能に未対応の ブラウザ では表示できません。
thefbc.sakura.ne.jp/

Ip shmiP. Most of these blanks are public domain and specically drawn for just such a flash of brilliance as shown by Ms Ulrika. Cheers.
Hooch Matador
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07-28-2006 20:37
From: vivi Odets
IP. Theft.

Sorry, I'm not interested in letting Ms. Z off the hook here -- she is the one who has so relentlessly and eloquently drawn the line in the sand regarding IP use and theft. I would expect her to have higher standards.


you have every right to bring this topic up

but the fact is, she is making no money, it is parody, there are ways to protect intelecual property

if i draw snoopy and pass it as joke with my own caption, is that IP theft or fair use?

perhaps she should offer attribution and thanks to the source, but when the content is that good and so obviously not an attempt to capitalize on someones work... it would be homage if you will

id also be willing to bet you have been to clubs that use music they shouldnt be using without paying aascap ... or any land with music for that matter. if so that makes you guilty of far more as the artists are actually losing money that way

can the company whose IP use may have been used without permission seek damages? is so, how much since the original work was significantly altered and there is no fiancial gain

you just choose to attack it here because it suits your purpose, rather than dealing the undercurrent of the piece

report her, let them come after her for infringement

i dont think there is a case, but Jake may be more enlightened than myself

either way, you are missing the artwork that ulrika contributed... and the point

go aplly to be a resmod, you already meet some qualifications for it

and your attempts to derail this thread seem suspiciously shill like

just sayin'
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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07-28-2006 20:39
From: vivi Odets
...hecktoring...
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07-28-2006 20:41
From: Amy Faddoul
Wow Vivi. Try this.
アクセス解析. このページはフレームを使用しています。フレーム機能に未対応の ブラウザ では表示できません。
thefbc.sakura.ne.jp/

Ip shmiP. Most of these blanks are public domain and specically drawn for just such a flash of brilliance as shown by Ms Ulrika. Cheers.


well, without looking to much into it, it sounds like she had permission to use it

now vivi, lets try this again?

what is the real agenda that inspired you to passively/aggresively troll ulrika and "show her up" or "prove her wrong" or "damage her character and credibility"?

the latter being something she could, infact, litigate

and win

what is your real agenda, besides the hollier than though passive/aggrsive approac?

come right out and say it... you may find the results less cowardly and more liberating...

once again

just sayin'
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Kevn Klein
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07-28-2006 20:50
From: Hooch Matador
well, without looking to much into it, it sounds like she had permission to use it

now vivi, lets try this again?

what is the real agenda that inspired you to passively/aggresively troll ulrika and "show her up" or "prove her wrong" or "damage her character and credibility"?

the latter being something she could, infact, litigate

and win

what is your real agenda, besides the hollier than though passive/aggrsive approac?

come right out and say it... you may find the results less cowardly and more liberating...

once again

just sayin'
Found another one. Woot! And all these people were praising you because you made it look like your own work. Fun. fun... :)
Hooch Matador
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07-28-2006 20:56
From: Kevn Klein
Found another one. Woot! And all these people were praising you because you made it look like your own work. Fun. fun... :)


anyone want to clue poor paranoid kevn in?

"I am robert paulson"

if i was the type to persoanlly attack someone, i hypothetically, as an example only, might say to you, "kevn, you are the shitstain on the underwear of life. Jesus loves you, but you embarass him greatly, and the rest of us think you are an idiot. the only thing more ridiculous than your trolling is your utter cluelessness"

since i would NEVER say anything like that, i would suggest that you get your facts straight, boy

or maybe everyone is Ulrika but you!

no matter what, you are in the cage and the rest of us watch in mild amusement while you fling your poop around and beat your chest...

so carry on

i predict 400 ulrika sightings from kevn "wtb a vowel" klein tonight alone
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Kevn Klein
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07-28-2006 21:01
From: Hooch Matador
anyone want to clue poor paranoid kevn in?

"I am robert paulson"

if i was the type to persoanlly attack someone, i hypothetically, as an example only, might say to you, "kevn, you are the shitstain on the underwear of life. Jesus loves you, but you embarass him greatly, and the rest of us think you are an idiot. the only thing more ridiculous than your trolling is your utter cluelessness"

since i would NEVER say anything like that, i would suggest that you get your facts straight, boy

or maybe everyone is Ulrika but you!

no matter what, you are in the cage and the rest of us watch in mild amusement while you fling your poop around and beat your chest...

so carry on

i predict 400 ulrika sightings from kevn "wtb a vowel" klein tonight alone
Me thinks thou doest protest too much....
Hooch Matador
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07-28-2006 21:05
From: Kevn Klein
Me thinks thou doest protest too much....


methinks there are people in SL who have met me... and others that have met ulrika... in real life no less

while i dont think the same people met us both... they can verify gender

besides, read my signature braniac

then go read my alts history

me and my alt got partnered in SL

so, um, not protesting

just making you look like a jackass
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Kevn Klein
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07-28-2006 21:10
From: Hooch Matador
methinks there are people in SL who have met me... and others that have met ulrika... in real life no less

while i dont think the same people met us both... they can verify gender

besides, read my signature braniac

then go read my alts history

me and my alt got partnered in SL

so, um, not protesting

just making you look like a jackass

Do you always type in lower case type? Or do you slip up sometimes, like your very first post, and others.

You know, one way to try to look less like an alt is to be consistent. Like poor old Fin, signing the bottom of a post, once ever. Either one signs posts or not. :)
Hooch Matador
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07-28-2006 21:13
http://forums.secondcitizen.com/index.php

im mulch maker if you were oh so very ignorant to that fact

which seems to be a constant problem of yours

that and the need for attention like a wet 2 year old

but whatever, "out" me as ulrika to your hearts content

it just makes your buffoonary more entertaining
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