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Windows Vista/ SL hardware problems

Sandy Beachey
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Join date: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 9
03-05-2007 15:54
From: Thili Playfair
Basicly right now if youre on
Vista + Ati + Secondlife = youre screwed as ATI was so slow with implenting openGL support ~.~,it'll get there eventually right now its just sad, still they are using beta1 vista opengl limited zero crapola one's with just a new spiffy control panel :>!....very usefull

/rant about Vista wich is bascily just a new barbiefied windows -.- look at me ! i can do HUGE buttons, quadzillion colors, high resoultion, and helpfull ...er.. and BIG words like HIGH DEF gaming... waaait wait wait... hasnt this been around for years now ;) geeez.... and the warnings every time you try to do something in Vista is just there to protect their support since 99% seems to be your fault :O ...coure it is, Vista ~ useable after first service pack, not before really.

The only reason everyone will end up using this is cause of directx10 if youre a gamer anyway. (going to laugh at those businesses who use this ...seriously o.o why)

You can however make a "Real administrator" not the spammy "this program want to start do you want to allow this....?"

One of the new things which were introduced by Windows Vista is brand new user accounts management, which allows system administrators to create various user accounts with strictly limited permissions. This may be handy for someone in net café or parents who want to protect the computer from their children, but it may cause also a lot of troubles for more experienced people.

The problem of UAC in Vista is that even if you set yourself as the administrator, you won’t be able to do some simple tasks and you will be still swamped by a lot of useless dialogs and confirmation windows. I’m talking avout prompts for folder/file permissions errors sometimes or you’ll need to right click and select “Run as Administrator” for most applications to work/install correctly. That’s because Microsoft made the administrators accounts (in local administrators group) run as standard users, unless we give permissions for every and each administrative tasks, with a little difference when UAC is turned on/off.

Here’s the simple solution: Remember that cute “Administrator” account you see when you login to safe mode? That’s the built-in administrator account that’s installed by default, and disabled by default too, after a little digging-in I made this tutorial that’ll let you enable and use this account in normal mode, and with a little other tweak, enjoying an XP-like administrator experience, while UAC is left ON (or off, it doesn’t matter), but with no prompts or right clicks.

1- Click Start, and type “secpol.msc” in the search area and click Enter.
2- You may receive a prompt from UAC, approve/login and proceed.
3- In the left list, choose “Local Policies”, then “Security Options”
4- Set “Accounts: Administrator account status” to Enabled.
5- Set “User Account Control: Admin Approval Mode for the Built-in Administrator account” to Disabled.
6- Now log-off, and you’ll see a new account named “Administrator” will be available, click on it to login.


Now you are the master of your domain! I recommend if you’re going to use this method is to apply it as soon as you do a fresh install of Windows, so you can simply delete whatever administrator you created in the setup process, and make this one the “real” administrator for your PC, also you can rename this new admin account or change its password like any other account from “User Accounts” in the Control Panel. I’m sure many of you will be happy to have 100% power over their new operating system


So what you are explaining is a work around to let you do day to day stuff with administrator permissions?

This basically gives any other programs you run free reign to do anything to your system, intentional or otherwise.

Jeez, no wonder there is a multi million pound security industry built up around Microsofts products
Thili Playfair
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Join date: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,417
03-06-2007 07:02
;) there isnt any secure software in exsistance, putting a password in a software program/os/ is a joke for anyone who been using computers awhile and is intensionally targeting you, its easy bypassed tho it may take some time, only true secure ones demands extra hardware.

Im still waiting for a SL disaster,why? you can target specific accounts here, you already know their login , now just need to "guess" their password, if they think this wont happen they are dead wrong.

-login name lastname ( random password)
^can be guessed using a random namegen/number...tho it would take awhile if its number&letters

should be more like

-login name middlename(secret or random number) lastname password
^alot harder

You should never never be able to know someones login, password can also be random guessed , unless you change every now and then (just never use a normal word without a number randomly, to easy guessed if its a word)

exsample
Software firewall will fail pretty much instant someone target you and know what they are doing, hardware firewall is much much harder.

"This basically gives any other programs you run free reign to do anything to your system, intentional or otherwise."

Wich boils down to YOU as user , no one is forcing you to install a program you dont know what does.

Unless you dont have any firewall installed then you will get them fast (prefetch/install on startup/service)Dont get me wrong for some users this can be handy, for some that know what they are doing on the computer this can be the most annoying thing and step back, personally cant stand being babysat with a OS nagging you every time you try to install/start/change something, you can easy check any running services/startup/shutdown and prefetch if you know how and what they do.

Early windows had some odd "password" security, wich where so easy bypassed didnt need to change anything ~.~ all you needed to do was press 1 key
Valerie Volare
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Join date: 7 Nov 2006
Posts: 4
Vista Home vs. Vista Business
08-29-2007 09:28
I finally figured it out!

Last week, I bought a brand new HP notebook pc with Vista installed. However, SL would not even open after I downloaded and installed it. The previous month or so ago, I had SL installed on a flash drive, used a friend's HP notebook pc with Vista installed and it worked fine. I just learned today that my friend has Vista Home on his notebook and I had Vista Business on mine. Also, another friend has Vista Home on his notebook and he says SL works fine as well. So, my conclusion is that SL does not work with Windows Vista Business Edition.

A few days ago, I contacted HP to ask them if I could just downgrade my notebook to Windows XP Pro. They told me that since my notebook was still under warranty, I could do this and they would even send me the Windows XP Pro installation and drivers CDs free of charge. Last night, I installed XP, downloaded and installed SL, and everything works fine!

**Also, my notebook has the ATI Radeon X1250 video card and it works great!


Problem solved!
Element Smirnov
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Join date: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 108
08-29-2007 21:46
i run sl on a vista business x64 powered dell laptop. using quadro fx350 graphics. your problem was most likly the video driver. oh and M$T just came out with an update today that changes the way it handles virtual memory for graphics/ gaming. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/940105
Rich Ray
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Join date: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 1
SL works fine for me on Vista but..
10-28-2007 23:00
SL has been working fine for me so far, I do have an nvidia card though but do's anyone have scratchy sound ?
Mang Korobase
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Join date: 26 Jul 2007
Posts: 3
02-05-2008 16:55
From: Rich Ray
SL has been working fine for me so far, I do have an nvidia card though but do's anyone have scratchy sound ?


I have had no video problems with Windows Vista; HOWEVER I can say that I have had issues with "fuzzy" sound, and, worse, a recurring issue where my sound completely stops. I have knocked my video quality down a level and (right now) it SEEMS to be a bit better, but I trust this thing about as far as I can throw it.

My sound card is an SB Audigy 4 (WDM) with all the current drivers.

Has anyone else had this problem, and what is the solution?
Aisley McDonnell
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Join date: 15 Feb 2008
Posts: 7
Install, Uninstall, & Reinstall
03-28-2008 05:10
Hey everyone!! I need help....I just purchased this pc with vista....When i first downloaded SL onto it everything was fine. However, just recently, a week ago, i have been having to install, uninstall, & reinstall just to get SL to work. When I log off and try to log back on, it says SL appears to have crashed & never pulls up no matter how many times I try to connect. So, therefore, Im having to install, uninstall, & reinstall just to be able to log on.

Is anyone else having this issue??? If so...can you please help me??
Wizzy Timeless
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Join date: 19 Sep 2007
Posts: 30
03-28-2008 05:35
Hi does this coincide with the new viwer update last friday ???? if so the same thing happened to me, i had to download the latest graphics driver to get SL even to boot.......its strange as other programs was not effected.

Also make sure you have all the lastest vista updates.........vista still sucks on many different boards including mine......a 939 socket AMD.old hat now........but thats progress for ya !! so ive gone back to xp pro and guess what.............no more issues.



anyways good luck with this..i know what it feels like.
Mycroft Undercroft
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Join date: 18 Mar 2008
Posts: 1
the Install Shuffle
04-17-2008 10:49
From: someone
...When I log off and try to log back on, it says SL appears to have crashed & never pulls up no matter how many times I try to connect. So, therefore, Im having to install, uninstall, & reinstall just to be able to log on.


AMD Phenom 9500 Quadcore
Vista Home Premium 32-bit
NVIDIA GeFOrce 8500 GT
SL 1.19.1.4 (by choice), also 1.19.0.5, 1.18.5.3, and the new 1.20.?????

Having the same issue as your running Vista with an Nvidia card, so doesn't seem related to the ATI issues being discussed.

Runs fine once your on and looks like a successful log off. But to log in again requires uninstall, reinstall, and log off Windows user and log user on *then* launch SL.

Have tried this with several viewers but all bail after "Detecting Hardware". Think the Texture Cache is the next to load, but haven't seen it much recently to be sure ;).

Seems like there might be a single file that could be deleted and would recreate/reload rather than doing a full reinstall. Concerns me that reinstall often isn't enough and have to log off Windows as well.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Mycroft Undercroft
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