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AWM Mars
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06-05-2008 05:17
If you search my 1,000's of posts, I most certainly do not offer 'just' references to the .NET Framework, it does supply and is stated as a OpenGL platform supported framework through API and runtime libraries.

I simply offer this, along with many other references to potential solutions. I do not profess to have the total solution for every issue, but I do try and slim down what is at the core of the problem for a lot of people, due to the prolifercation of system specifications and sometimes, the lack of information supplied.

It is certainly not unusual to find that people have turnned off firewalls, do not have basic virus protection (or it is incorrectly setup), or have not updated their software/drivers and or OS. Many install software over existing setups, the registry becomes bloated and contains a lot of broken references, slowing down the whole system. Hardware is not lifetime guarenteed, heat creepage of components, unable to source a correct driver, poor internet connections, all go to plauge many users.

It is very rare that I suffer issues, except when it is LL server side, this doesn't however stop me from dropping into the forums to perhaps help those that do. I build many of my own systems, research many of the various software available, update on a very regular basis, defrag, run scandisk programmes to check the condition of my 4tb raid setup, even balance my monitor, all because my main focus is to make machinima. Anyone who does so, is adding a huge strain on their system, given that the vast majority of users do not make machinima, their systems are under far less stress.

I do not doubt your prowess, but you should focus your efforts on providing solutions instead of rubbishing other peoples efforts. Unless you hold all the answers?
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AWM Mars
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06-05-2008 06:37
From: Usagi Musashi
Here is the thing why do some people say they never crash and some people do? Well one possiblity is they don`t maintain their own system but their support they get from when they bought it does it.... hence they say they never crash....Then again these same people say they don`t lag either even when the game server are indeed lagging..So at times you can`t believe people and their remarks at times. But indeed .NET does play a important part in the playing of SL........But do you realy need to reinstall fresh copies of .NET say when you already have 3.0 .NET ?

.NET Framework comes in many versions, each have their own SP's. I use 3.5 for Vista, and version 3 for XP, along with installing all previous versions.
I noticed an increase in speed and stability of my internet connection, having installed the SP's for both versions of Vista (32 and 64 bit), along with SP3 for XP. Microsoft have finally addressed those areas.
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Usagi Musashi
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06-05-2008 07:22
From: AWM Mars
.NET Framework comes in many versions, each have their own SP's. I use 3.5 for Vista, and version 3 for XP, along with installing all previous versions.
I noticed an increase in speed and stability of my internet connection, having installed the SP's for both versions of Vista (32 and 64 bit), along with SP3 for XP. Microsoft have finally addressed those areas.


I have 3.0 installed with XP pro..........Do i need to reinstall the .NET 3.0 from to to time?
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AWM Mars
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06-05-2008 10:28
From: Usagi Musashi
I have 3.0 installed with XP pro..........Do i need to reinstall the .NET 3.0 from to to time?

Not to my knowledge, although some ppls have had to reinstall their OS and forget to reinstall .NET Framework latest version and updates, along with system drivers for network cards etc.. If you are having problems and you have changed anything recently, try a rollback to see if that stablizes anything. A good registry cleaner is a 'must' tool in my bag.

If you haven't already, download and install the SP3 for XP, it does have good updates for internet/network connectivity, including vp6.
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Robot Poultry
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06-05-2008 14:38
From: AWM Mars
I do not doubt your prowess, but you should focus your efforts on providing solutions instead of rubbishing other peoples efforts. Unless you hold all the answers?

Nobody holds all the answers, however, misinformation bothers me.

EDIT: Decided to rewrite this little portion.

.NET isn't just an OpenGL framework, rather, it's a programming framework for writing managed code easily. C# is kind of like C++, for example, but it's not. Just like how C++ contains no OpenGL bits, or DirectX bits, you can use either OpenGL or DirectX from within a C++ application. Same thing with .NET. Indeed, offering DirectX or OpenGL with .NET would be redundant, as it is already present on your computer.

I do understand where you may have gotten your idea from, however, and that is due to SL utilizing the OpenGL functions of the graphic card, and using the .NET Framework for certain tasks.

It is similar to an application using .NET and Java, let's say. It uses certain .NET API calls to accomplish some things, but is written largely in Java. That does not mean that .NET contains Java, or vice versa, rather, just that both are used in the same application.

As for registry bloat and "curing" it, that's...wishful thinking, I think is the best way to phrase it. Registry cleaners range from borderline useless (CCleaner) to dangerous (won't name any, but I've seen more than a handful of machines where a person ran a registry cleaner and, surprise, the computer no longer booted).

Oh, and follow your own example by running the latest version of .NET on XP. That's 3.5. I see you're out of date. Download here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=333325FD-AE52-4E35-B531-508D977D32A6&displaylang=en
Usagi Musashi
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06-05-2008 16:14
From: AWM Mars
Not to my knowledge, although some ppls have had to reinstall their OS and forget to reinstall .NET Framework latest version and updates, along with system drivers for network cards etc.. If you are having problems and you have changed anything recently, try a rollback to see if that stablizes anything. A good registry cleaner is a 'must' tool in my bag.

If you haven't already, download and install the SP3 for XP, it does have good updates for internet/network connectivity, including vp6.


Thats good basic thinking about installing drivers etc. But i did find out the hard way about .NET Famewoeknot installing until i noticed optiona installs....
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Robot Poultry
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06-05-2008 16:24
From: Usagi Musashi
Thats good basic thinking about installing drivers etc. But i did find out the hard way about .NET Famewoeknot installing until i noticed optiona installs....

Well, in general, you need to click through all the options in Windows Update each time you install Windows. There are several things that are considered optional that you really should have, .NET included (but other things as well).

I don't suggest installing drivers from Windows Update, though, unless you can't get them anywhere else.
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