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Reno Rowlands
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08-14-2008 01:18
From: Saiki Spirt now you change your story, mr. Expert? and Microsoft said Vista sees 4GB of user-mode memory can be seen and used. Now what do you have to say about that? not as much of an expert as you say are you?
What part of my story changed? You're nit picking the meaning of the word "see" when it was very clear that I meant it cannot access that memory. Look I don't wanna get into a pissing contest with you but just FYI, I think your understanding of user mode incorrect. There's user mode (the space in which normal applications run) and there's kernel mode (the space in which the operating system and most device drivers run). On a 4GB system, this space is divided as 2 and 2. It's possible to reconfigure the OS to re-divide it a 3/2 but this only benefits very specific scenarios that are designed to run in such a configuration. http://blogs.technet.com/blogfiles/markrussinovich/WindowsLiveWriter/PushingtheLimitsofWindowsPhysicalMemory_878B/image_38.png There's a pretty picture that may explain it better. Here's the technical article if you care to read about the nerdy wonders of memory architecture. http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2008/07/21/3092070.aspx
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Robot Poultry
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08-15-2008 19:20
From: Spork Yifu I hate it when people who think they know computers try and out smart me lol... Ok here is proof it is called Vienne, It is a google search for Windows Vienne... please don't try and argue the case, Vista is Windows (6) Vista... So you are right it is the 7th MS windows to be brought out but it IS called Vienna, for now =D The name could be changed at a later date, but the project is known as Windows Vienna... Remember I work for the biggest IT supports in England... I know my stuff. Other names that have sprung up, as you can see is Windows Blackcomb... which... sounds rather tacky.. i do prefer Vienna Blackcomb was supposed to be the server release after Server 2008. I haven't heard it called Blackcomb in a few years (by anyone in the know). Vienna is indeed Windows 7. It is no longer known as Vienna (internally, at Microsoft). Microsoft calls it Windows 7. If you wish to call it Vienna, that's cool, it's the same thing. But for simplicity's sake, we should all stick to the current name. It's like calling Vista "Longhorn" because it sounds cooler. Then you get all the folks who don't know what Longhorn is (or assume you're taking about Server 2008, as that was known as Longhorn up until last year).
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Robot Poultry
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08-15-2008 19:25
From: Saiki Spirt the #1 advantage of 64 bit, as far as my knowlege goes. core 2, core 3, core 4... etc.. SL will run all of these as set by Vista, and it WILL perform much faster than a mono-core x86 pc. Vista x86 is just as capable at using multiple processor cores as Vista x64. People report improved performance with the 64 bit version, and some benchmarks show improvements in certain apps, but with most apps the difference will be negligable. From: someone my 2.20 dc runs like a 4.9ghz mono-core, as reported by many sites that scan hardware. 4.9, I have 2 2.20 cores in my pc. that's a BIG boost, No, it's not like having a 4.9GHz CPU. It's like having two 2.2GHz processors. Multi-core processors don't add their cores together to become twice as fast, or 4x as fast. Rather, when you have two processor cores, you can execute two threads simultaneously, or four threads simultaneously if you have a quad core proc (and so on). AMD talked for a while of processor instructions that would enable a single thread to be split among multiple cores, thus speeding it up, but nothing has come of that so far. Any tools adding your cores together for the speed rating shouldn't be trusted. From: someone and I can only imagine what a phenom reads as, I'd be interested to see. It'd read the same way as a Core 2...just as a Phenom. If you've got 2x 2GHz cores, then it'll read that way.
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Osgeld Barmy
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08-15-2008 19:46
wonder why they call it windows 7
its like windows main version 17 or 18, subversion 30 something
its not coming out in 2007, nor 2017
nt version like 9 or 10
and only like the 3rd or 4th consumer version on the nt core
must be a marketing thing
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Milla Janick
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08-15-2008 20:42
From: Osgeld Barmy wonder why they call it windows 7 Presumably because it's going to be version 7 of the NT kernel.
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Peggy Paperdoll
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08-15-2008 20:46
It could also be Windows 3.1, Win 95, Win 98, Win ME, Win XP, Win Vista and Win 7.  But Microsoft started out with 3.1.........LOL. Bill Gates is weird.
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Osgeld Barmy
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08-15-2008 21:12
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Peggy Paperdoll
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08-15-2008 21:15
That blows my theory out the window then...........it would be Windows 9. LOL
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Robot Poultry
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08-15-2008 21:17
As Janick said, it is the seventh major version of the NT kernel. Windows 1.x, 2.x, and 3.x are not operating systems, and Windows 9x (95, 98, ME) use a different kernel, which is why the version number is so low (in comparison to where one would think it should be).
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Saiki Spirt
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Join date: 1 Jun 2008
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08-16-2008 14:02
From: Robot Poultry Any tools adding your cores together for the speed rating shouldn't be trusted. it's a major gaming spec-testing site. it's as accurate as they come.
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Milla Janick
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08-16-2008 18:37
What site is it?
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Osgeld Barmy
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08-16-2008 19:09
aye ive been wondering (not really abunch) about that all day
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