Start up problem

every time i try to start up it crashes any one know why?

No...........not without some more information.

i found out its my video card any idea what i should do? im running a Evga 7600GT Superclocked with 2.5gb of ram and a intel pentium 4 proccesser

If it were me, I'd stay away from overclocked anything. Does your motherboard support PCI e?

no this is a VGA

i updated my driver but it still did not work any ideas?

Well, you said you found out it was your video card and you've updated your drivers. Since it did not clear your problem all I can suggest is it might be time to go shopping for a new video card. My guess is that your motherboard does not support PCI express (the P4 processor is my main reason for this assumption). Your MB almost certainly supports PCI and maybe AGP............so look for cards along those lines.

Without more information I'm almost shooting in the dark here. Good luck.

it dosn't its like 5 years old, but im able to play Age of Conan on it just fine

Don't know Age of Conon. But, I can almost guarantee that that game is not based on openGL rendering engine. And it's a controlled content environment. Both are the exact opposite of SL.

Sorry, but SL requires a better than average machine for satisfactory play. A basic email, internet browsing, word processor machine will not perform well at all. That does not mean you have to have a high end computer......just an older machine with older hardware is going to struggle greatly.

age of conan takes 3 times as much crap u guys need to play second life heres the requirements and minimums

Minimum configuration (1024x768, detail reduced)

* OS: Windows XP Service Pack 2 or Windows Vista
* Processor: Intel Pentium 4 3Ghz or equivalent
* RAM: 1GB
* Video card: NVIDIA Geforce 6600 or ATI Radeon 9800
* DVD-ROM: Quad-speed (4x) DVD-ROM drive
* Hard drive space: 32GB

[edit] Recommended configuration (Up to 1280X960, most features on)

* OS: Windows XP Service Pack 2 or Windows Vista Service Pack 1
* Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz or equivalent
* RAM: 2048MB Dual Channel DDR2
* Video card: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GTX or equivalent
* Video memory: 512MB
* DVD-ROM: Quad-speed (4x) DVD-ROM drive
* Hard drive space: 32GB

Whatever you say..........seems you are the expert.

Problem is, you can't play SL and I bet I can play Age of Conan. I know I play SL. My system exceeds the recommended for your game by at least twice.....your system barely meets SL minimum. Go figure.

As long as you refuse to give us any details beyond SL won't start we cannot effectively help you. SL not even starting up almost certainly points at your system as the source. So take if from there.

Peggy, your tone troubles me. Instead of just telling him that he's not telling you enough and then chiding him for not giving you what you need, ask him guiding questions. If it's not your intention to be exclusionary, then consider this a suggestion about your tone.

I'm having the exact same problem. It didn't coincide with an update to the viewer or my system. My computer is three years old, and during that time I've used SL regularly, though this is a newer account. It sits comfortably in the recommended requirements for SL.

The only change to my system was a new monitor, prompting me to up the usual screen resolution to 1900x1200. Ever since then, neither the RC Viewer nor the normal viewer will start up properly.

Vash hasn't been terribly polite either, but I'll bet this is how his viewer behaves: he clicks on the executable, it fill his screen with the black background the login page starts with and the title bar all programs share. After a long moment, the "login" bar at the bottom appears, and the first few menus appear at the top, File, Edit, and another I can't recall. The "E" in "Edit" doesn't display properly, and nothing can be clicked or opened or changed. A moment later, the whole thing disappears, and a crash reporter pops up.

Clearly, for me, this has something to do with the resolution. I've been stubborn about keep that resolution, and have not altered it to see if that'd remedy the problem. If Vash's resolution is similar, then perhaps the viewer has trouble with a certain height of resolution, and all users have to adjust their computers in order to use the viewer. If that's the case, then we should all ascertain if this is a widespread or isolated occurrence, and if it's a serious problem, it should be filed as a bug.

I don't remember a time when someone's screen resolution being too high could crash software. So, Vash, what's your resolution?

It won't be a resolution problem with the viewer..........that is only between your graphic card and monitor. The game knows nothing about your resolution but your card does. I know many people using SL with resolutions of 1900 x 1200.......it's a quite common resolution for many newer monitors. I happen to make desktops for people in SL and I need their resolutions so I can make them at as high resolutions as possible......many use that resolution. I doubt they have the problem you and the OP are experiencing.....especially since the information I need is almost always face to face in SL. They obviously logged in successfully.

And, yes, my tone might need a little adjusting..........I've been trying to help the OP for two days now. I believe his system is not up to SL. It's old and his specs barely meet the minimums. Then he says he can play a game that I'm sure is no where as graphics intensive as SL. I'm out of ideas for him......he refuses to tell me anything useful to help further. I know he can play SL on that computer........people with less can so he can too. But, as long as anyone thinks it's not their computer their eyes are closed and no one can help. That's where I'm at with the OP

Sorry......I'm usually quite pleasant on these forums.

Curious indeed. I presumed it wasn't a widespread calamity, else it would've been fixed already, or gotten a sticky in the forum until it was remedied. I'll relent and try other resolutions, thought as you've said, Peggy, that shouldn't be the issue.

If you don't already try playing SL in a window instead of full screen.

You might find something in your graphics card control panel that fixes your problem too.

huh.. nvr heard of a board with vga.... "intergrated, pci, agp,pci-e" are the only ones i know of..

Age of Conan....a 5yr old system with no updats..i dont see it playing AoC "fine" unless its at bare min with some low fps..and with the 5 yr old system.. im betting u have AGP, or possibly just pci.. my best solution to this problem is "UPDATE" 5yrs is a long time to wait without updating.. u can barely meet the min on AoC nor Sl... and the Bare Min Requirements for a game usually isnt completly accurate.. u actually need more than what they want for a pleasnt exp..

Why not just uninstall your GC drivers and reinstall in Safe mode or normal if u choose.. and see if that possibly helps.. maybe try the same wit hthe Sl client too.. other than that.. u may need to update your system.. every computer when they come off the counter stock is outdated as soon as there bought..

So, curiously enough, running SL at a lower resolution does, indeed, allow it to run. But why on Earth would a mere change in resolution completely disrupt the program?

K that may be all good and correct. What people are trying to explain is that Second Life is an open grid type of concept. It is not standardized nor regulated for performance. Any other multi player verse will spend a huge amount of time and money on a little thing called consistency. All their coding and graphics will be a default size and bit. Well SL isn't that way. It's open sourced to the public, and can handly multiple language coding. And it is, people plug in anything. So the stability is all over the place. Therefore it is a much higher drain on any system you compare it to. Hope that helps.

Vash's problem was not of performance, but that he simply couldn't start the Viewer. If his hardware was not supported, then it would tell him.

I've found something curious: Second Life will not run at full screen in windowed mode at 1920x1200. However, if I change my resolution, shrink the window so that it doesn't take up the whole screen, then return the screen resolution to 1920x1200, all is well. Once I've logged in, I can expand the window with no problems.

It seems the viewer only hates to start up under these conditions.

Except the pre-existing issues with crashes, and a frame rate that steadily degrades over time into an inoperable slide show. But I'm using an ATI card, and Linden Labs, in it's infinite wisdom, decided to alienate my half of the high-end graphics card population. How thoughtful.

But that's neither here nor there in this thread. If Vash hasn't been scared away, he should try to reduce his resolution temporarily and see if it will start up in a lower resolution, then shrink the window out of full-screen.

would u like me to post my Direct X file?
here it is
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System Information
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Time of this report: 4/15/2008, 20:56:12
Machine name: OWNER-BDKOB9AJB
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: INTEL_
System Model: D865GLC_
BIOS: BIOS Date: 01/22/04 09:53:47 Ver: 08.00.10
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2558MB RAM
Page File: 1041MB used, 2864MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: The file directx.cpl is a debug version, which will run slower than the retail version.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7600 GT
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_02E0&SUBSYS_A5593842&REV_A2
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6921 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/5/2007 02:41:00, 5773568 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 12/5/2007 02:41:00, 7435392 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-41A0-11CF-FB40-528503C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x02E0
SubSys ID: 0xA5593842
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Revision ID: 0x00A2

Where exactly does it crash? After launching the app, while signing in...?

i ment to say AGP not VGA lol i get it mixed up

on start up, when i hit the application and i run on a 17inch wide screen which is 1440x925 or somthing so im guessing thats not supported

it crashes right after clicking second life on the start menu

and yes it tells me its not supported does this game not support Geforce 7600gt?
if it does and i have my setings wrong let me know heres a screen shot of the setings i use to play AoC i get 4-30fps this way
http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=settingsza6.jpg

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