Osgeld Barmy
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05-18-2009 19:17
From: Distilled1 Rush
.. Oh as well And I wish I thought of this prior to the techs latest visit. The last time I had an issue the Tech had me REMOVE all the DSL filters (from the phones and DVR fax etc. , He installed one on the main Phone interface outside . and that was the last time I had even a small DSL loss or slow down.
we dont need phone filters but we have dsl direct (no voice service), when the tech showed up early that Monday I was on the way out to work so I was fairly blunt with him, course seeing my borg cube he started to say something, then told him "phoneline, modem, and my wifes computer, windows xp, make it work" While handing him the various models of filters he stated that they were not really needed anymore, but are (and this is the IMPORTANT part) "still good to have installed in some cases, where theres issues" Try unplugging everything from the phone jacks in your house except your dsl modem, if you have a dsl filter plug the modem into that, and then plug the filter into the wall, and see if it makes any difference its a bit extreme i know, but why not try From: Distilled1 Rush at&ts free dsl modem (well it was free) runs four (4) earthnet and wireless I feel the less and shortest distance makes every bit of Diff. Some may disagree ...
No i do not disagree, the shortest distance is most optimal, its a radio signal, its a physical thing that will eventually run out of power. What complicates things is the fact that most are on the 2.4ghz bandwidth along with your cordless phones, wireless game controllers, bluetooth, unknown amounts of "radio gadgets", and ... From: wikipedia A microwave oven passes (non-ionizing) microwave radiation (at a frequency near 2.45 GHz) through food which are not totally RF leak proof I am usually quite confident of signals 40% or better, I have ran a pretty stable signal @ 5%, but there were no "distractions" from point A to point B, also they were on the same plane. You still have to make a plan for it all to work right
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Lexi Wizenheim
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Join date: 22 Mar 2009
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05-20-2009 11:20
Ok, so I have done just about everything you all have suggested. I tried SL on another computer, a netbook, which didn't run it well, but had the same problem although it stayed on a bit longer. We just had put another ethernet connection in the house, new switch, new cable, so plugged the new desktop into that and still had the same probelm. Had the DLS upgraded, took place today, but I see no difference so going to downgrade that because it's way too expensive and it makes no difference. Now I'm thinking it's the firewall, but hubby says we have to keep a firewall. He said he'd buy a new one, but we have a Netgear ProSafeVPN FVS319 firewall, so it's a good one. I am at my wits end. Only thing I think we can do is get a new firewall and see if that doesn't make the difference. This one is a few years old, but apparently a very good one, so I don't know what to do.
Sorry to keep complaining, but it's making me crazy. I should just stop SL, but I do like a challenge, that is, to get this up and running well. I was on this AM...first time was logged off in 13 minutes, the second time 30 minutes which is more like it. It never ends!
Thanks again for all the help and information.
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Katheryne Helendale
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05-20-2009 15:59
I'm VERY surprised nobody has mentioned issues with PPPoE, given that it is the most common means of connecting to DSL networks!
PPPoE behaves a lot like standard dial-up connections. If it senses you're idle for a while, it will "disconnect" you. In my experience, the UDP traffic that typically takes place between an online game and the client is not registered as traffic with regards to PPPoE's idle-timeout.
The best workaround is to ensure your router understands and works with PPPoE connections. Then set the Idle Timeout on your router to 0/zero/never (whichever your router accepts). If you are with AT&T, then you will likely need to set your router's PPPoE connection method to "Dial on Demand". Your router will, with this configuration, attempt to keep your connection alive.
Also, if you are using a router to manage your internet connection, you need to make sure you do not have any PPPoE software (WinPoET, etc.) installed on your computer. If you ran any installation software on your computer when you got your internet connection, then you likely have PPPoE software installed. Be sure to remove it.
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Osgeld Barmy
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05-20-2009 17:09
the att that i have does not run over pppoe, it did at one point but not now
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theshadow Oh
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05-21-2009 03:06
I've had a similiar issue before with IRC traffic... Apparently my ISP (Time Warner's RoadRunner service, here where I live) sends a hard disconnect command @ 5 MB of traffic over IRC. Callign them got me alot of 'We don't block or route traffic over any ports, it's your software'. I used 12 different IRC apps to test things, so I am positive they were in fact sending a hard disconnect command to the modem after a set ammount of data was reached as I would have to power off PC & Cable Modem to reestablish a connection. The odd thing is they only did it for was IRC...
The bad thing is they are still the only broadband ISP in my area, so I can't go anywhere else where it might work... And even if Verizon got off their asses to fix the local loop so I could have DSL they are 6 times slow (1.5 mbps down vs 8 mbps down, both have nearly identical up) for the same price.
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Lexi Wizenheim
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Join date: 22 Mar 2009
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05-21-2009 12:00
As far as the PPPoe thing...I am told that that is not the issue here, so that won't help. We also have AT&T it it does not run that. Thanks for the suggestion though. I'm open to anything.
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