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CyFishy Traveler

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Join date: 9 Aug 2006

Posts: 122

04-07-2007 12:14

http://somafm.com/crb/

Short version: Internet broadcasters are going to be charged a per-listener per-song fee model that will pretty much put internet radio stations out of business.

This means most sources of streaming music in Second Life will dry up completely. I'm not sure how this new rule will affect services like Shoutcast, but it's entirely possible that fees will go WAY up to compensate.

If you are a U. S. citizen, CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSPERSON and urge them to amend the Digital Performance Right in Sound Recordings Act of 1995 (DPRA) so that "non-interactive digital transmissions" (e.g. internet radio broadcasts) are exempt from statutory licensing requirements in the same way that analog transmissions (e.g. AM/FM) are.

Click the link above for more details. If we do nothing, we could lose everything.

Edit: check this link, also--

http://www.savethestreams.org/

Ricky Yates

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Join date: 28 Jan 2007

Posts: 809

04-07-2007 13:52

Bound to happen sooner or later ... more or less the same situation in other jurisdictions (non-US).

Sorry!

Dominguez Brentano

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Join date: 20 Apr 2006

Posts: 87

04-10-2007 11:29

there's no way they will ever be able to halt streaming music completely, I wouldnt get too worried.

AJ DaSilva

woz ere

Join date: 15 Jun 2005

Posts: 1,993

04-10-2007 11:36

I always thought the majority of internet radio stations (those playing copyrighted material without permission) were illegal anyway and this was more a measure to allow them to operate legally...

Nyoko Salome

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Join date: 18 Jul 2005

Posts: 1,378

04-10-2007 12:04

From: AJ DaSilva

I always thought the majority of internet radio stations (those playing copyrighted material without permission) were illegal anyway and this was more a measure to allow them to operate legally...

:\ no... lots are -legal- business operations, including many over-the-air radio stations (community stations, npr) that then also stream their signal. the raise in rates are exhorbatent and meant only to break the back of the smaller/non-corporate stream providers (large corp streamers, like AOL/et.al. will make lots of backdoor deals, because -well, they're corporate and play the big game.)

/327/81/172371/1.html

it's like the old payola scandal in reverse... brings to mind things like racketeering and tort scandals and all sorts of stupid crap.

"better the best and f*ck the rest" - killing joke

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AJ DaSilva

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Join date: 15 Jun 2005

Posts: 1,993

04-10-2007 12:07

Presumably these legal stations have already paid some kind of royalties though? (I'm going on my knowledge of UK laws, 'cause I don't know US ones too well.)

So is the issue a rise in fees rather than the fact there are fees being applied?

EDIT: Yes, it seems it is (just looked at the thread you linked) you can ignore me now.

Gordon Wendt

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Join date: 10 May 2006

Posts: 1,024

04-10-2007 12:11

From: Nyoko Salome

:\ no... lots are -legal- business operations, including many over-the-air radio stations (community stations, npr) that then also stream their signal. the raise in rates are exhorbatent and meant only to break the back of the smaller/non-corporate stream providers (large corp streamers, like AOL/et.al. will make lots of backdoor deals, because -well, they're corporate and play the big game.)

/327/81/172371/1.html

it's like the old payola scandal in reverse... brings to mind things like racketeering and tort scandals and all sorts of stupid crap.

"better the best and f*ck the rest" - killing joke

I'm honestly surprised the labels and their strong arming music mafia group the RIAA haven't been hit with a RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) suit yet for this.

Mo Dryke

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Join date: 2 Feb 2007

Posts: 192

04-11-2007 12:07

streaming music is not dead. Personnaly I stream MY own music under creative commons licence: No RIAA, no digital rights managment, no lawsuits, no problems...

Streaming Music In Peril!
CyFishy Traveler Social Butterfly :)i(: Join date: 9 Aug 2006 Posts: 122	04-07-2007 12:14 http://somafm.com/crb/ Short version: Internet broadcasters are going to be charged a per-listener per-song fee model that will pretty much put internet radio stations out of business. This means most sources of streaming music in Second Life will dry up completely. I'm not sure how this new rule will affect services like Shoutcast, but it's entirely possible that fees will go WAY up to compensate. If you are a U. S. citizen, CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSPERSON and urge them to amend the Digital Performance Right in Sound Recordings Act of 1995 (DPRA) so that "non-interactive digital transmissions" (e.g. internet radio broadcasts) are exempt from statutory licensing requirements in the same way that analog transmissions (e.g. AM/FM) are. Click the link above for more details. If we do nothing, we could lose everything. Edit: check this link, also-- http://www.savethestreams.org/
Ricky Yates (searching...) Join date: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 809	04-07-2007 13:52 Bound to happen sooner or later ... more or less the same situation in other jurisdictions (non-US). Sorry!
Dominguez Brentano Registered User Join date: 20 Apr 2006 Posts: 87	04-10-2007 11:29 there's no way they will ever be able to halt streaming music completely, I wouldnt get too worried.
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	04-10-2007 11:36 I always thought the majority of internet radio stations (those playing copyrighted material without permission) were illegal anyway and this was more a measure to allow them to operate legally...
Nyoko Salome kittytailmeowmeow Join date: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,378	04-10-2007 12:04 From: AJ DaSilva I always thought the majority of internet radio stations (those playing copyrighted material without permission) were illegal anyway and this was more a measure to allow them to operate legally... :\ no... lots are -legal- business operations, including many over-the-air radio stations (community stations, npr) that then also stream their signal. the raise in rates are exhorbatent and meant only to break the back of the smaller/non-corporate stream providers (large corp streamers, like AOL/et.al. will make lots of backdoor deals, because -well, they're corporate and play the big game.) /327/81/172371/1.html it's like the old payola scandal in reverse... brings to mind things like racketeering and tort scandals and all sorts of stupid crap. "better the best and f*ck the rest" - killing joke _____________________ Nyoko's Bodyoils @ Nyoko's Wears http://slurl.com/secondlife/Centaur/126/251/734/ http://home.comcast.net/~nyoko.salome2/nyokosWears/index.html "i don't spend nearly enough time on the holodeck. i should go there more often and relax." - deanna troi
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	04-10-2007 12:07 Presumably these legal stations have already paid some kind of royalties though? (I'm going on my knowledge of UK laws, 'cause I don't know US ones too well.) So is the issue a rise in fees rather than the fact there are fees being applied? EDIT: Yes, it seems it is (just looked at the thread you linked) you can ignore me now.
Gordon Wendt 404 - User not found Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1,024	04-10-2007 12:11 From: Nyoko Salome :\ no... lots are -legal- business operations, including many over-the-air radio stations (community stations, npr) that then also stream their signal. the raise in rates are exhorbatent and meant only to break the back of the smaller/non-corporate stream providers (large corp streamers, like AOL/et.al. will make lots of backdoor deals, because -well, they're corporate and play the big game.) /327/81/172371/1.html it's like the old payola scandal in reverse... brings to mind things like racketeering and tort scandals and all sorts of stupid crap. "better the best and f*ck the rest" - killing joke I'm honestly surprised the labels and their strong arming music mafia group the RIAA haven't been hit with a RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) suit yet for this.
Mo Dryke Dryke Gallery Owner Join date: 2 Feb 2007 Posts: 192	04-11-2007 12:07 streaming music is not dead. Personnaly I stream MY own music under creative commons licence: No RIAA, no digital rights managment, no lawsuits, no problems...

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