Events List: Leave it Alone! Yard Sales etc A-OK

Vote for Proposition 8193. Second Life Needs More Yard Sales.

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That gets all 25 of my votes.

Lewis

I have no problem with hosted yard sales. Yard sales that are basically "Come to my land and buy my crap!" belong in classifieds.

The event list needs something doing about it either way.

Do you understand the concept of events? Do they have to be Money driven? Do they have to included "AFK" avies? I think your looking at this in a narrow viewand not that of a rounds views. What wrong with providing a place for peopleto enjoy and have fun.....WAIT Your a Money chair Zombie believer right BOY

Yes I do understand the nature of an event, by definition an event is an occurence not a location - you clearly don't understand it.

You said it yourself:



Nothing is wrong with it, but you are providing a PLACE, in your own words, not an EVENT !



Did I say anything about having to be money driven or AFK zombies ? I actually approved of your non-profit motivation, and FYI run a place of my own on very similar lines, but I do not list it in events unless I am specifically holding one.



Quite the opposite and I gave you no just reason to suggest this either. There is no need to insult me when I supported the nature of your venue, but simply pointed out that by the definition of the word you are not actually holding EVENTS. A place is not an event, I'm sorry but it doesn't get any simpler than that.

I'm not just being pedantic for the sake of it, and I pointed out I wasn't having a go specifically at you, but if you can justify an event listing then so can everywhere in SL be they nothing more than a shop or money chair trap. I want events to be events and it'd pointless and hypocritical to suggest tidying up the events listing without including ourselves amoungst those the rules should apply to. I think you missed the point of my post.

oh well another alt posting in here.i should have seen this coming. .......

Look, a club is not an event.

You could hold specific events with a club as the venue, but a club in itself is not an event.

I did try to point that out, isn't this simple English comprehension ?

Usagi, I'm not an Alt. I don't understand your problem. I would like the Event List to be free of shops masquerading as yard sales, host-less clubs and money chair traps advertising non-existent events every single hour, in fact ANYTHING that isn't an event so the list might have some meaning again. That's all.

I assume that yet another unfounded accusation against me is evidence that you no longer have a valid supporting argument for your case.

Ok where is jesse linden to reply to this..............
We are getting shit on again and again!...........do we have to give money to LLabs to get treatment like some powerful club owners are doing with LLabs? I had enough!........i am a peaceful person inthe game and i had to deal with countless fruit nuts and jerks which LLabs just passed me over like i am rabbit shit!...........When own sim goes down does LLabs cares! HELL NO! But if a larger more powerful owner sim does LLabs ********* their ****** .....
fair treatment ****** no! fav to some owners **** yes!..........

Like these forums there is no real help!
the lindens inworld lindens do their best and are the heart of LLabs.But the ones making the final calls they are worthless

I enjoy yard sales also, very much.

coco

Why not seperate the evnts postings......Have a spot to post for events where someone is actually hosting and have ones for store openings or new products and a spot for yard sales.....People my self included look at the events to see whats going on and what they want to do that day in game.....Myself I love going to yard sales and seeing what they may have.....Ihave found some great deals at them.
Liek it was said not everyone can afford a classified ad....I for one dont look at them.
So we need a middle ground here for everyone to be happy with.

JMO,
Shelley Pinkney

No, the EVENTS listing is for EVENTS -- permanent yard/trash sales do not qualify, nor do perpetual casino/gambling PSEUDO-"events"...

What is needed is for the whiners to pay for their advertising...

That is what "Find Places" is for.

You already have a tool that does this, where posting it is not posting it in the wrong place.

A place is not an event.

You know, I think people should be able to put their clubs in the People finder as well as the Events listings!

Two or three free hours of event posting per week, per parcel, per person. (You could freely post an event two times on a parcel, once on two parcels or two people could post once on one.)
$L10 for an additional hour.
$L100 for the next.
$L10000 for another, and so on.

If people really need more they can find some other, cheaper, way of getting word out about their other events. Perhaps by getting to know the people who show up regularly and informing them directly.

There's a difference here, which seems not to be understood by several of the people posting to this thread:

-- the NON-COMMERCIAL yard sale is held by a INDIVIDUAL, COUPLE, OR NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS selling off their own used items to clear their PERSONAL INVENTORIES

-- the COMMERCIAL (and completely BOGUS) "yard sale" is held by someone (whether an individual or group) who is conducting a BUSINESS in second-hand items, generally collected from all over SL; it is bogus because it is simply "business as usual" for them... they move items outside their shop and call it a "yard sale"


The REAL yard sales, held by individuals/neighborhoods, are REAL EVENTS when they are announced as having SET START/END TIMES, and are ACTIVELY ATTENDED by the seller; these yard sales do not recur every single day/weekend.

The BOGUS "yard sales" held by commercial dealers have no set/end times, and are NOT attended. The dealers who are whining in this thread think that hosting a "yard sale" by dumping some junk outside the front door of their shop will get the "yard sale" shoppers INSIDE their doors to buy the higher-priced 2nd-hand junk. They also think that they are, for whatever reason, entitled to FREE ADVERTISING for this slick, sleazy, deceitful scam.

I've bought a couple of things from Miss Kitty and a couple of the other dealers before I caught on to this, but I never will again. The day I caught on to it, I saw something at one of her several outlets (advertised as a "yard sale" -- worthless junk tossed out her front door, basically), then saw an item INSIDE THE SHOP that I liked, but since none of the stuff at the bogus "yard sale" outside was worth coming to see, and the entire "yard sale" thing was obviously fake, I tracked down the original creator of the one piece I DID like and bought it directly from the creator at FULL PRICE. If I'd seen the item at a REAL yard sale, I'd have bought it, but not from a slick liar and low-rent scammer. Anyone sleazy enough to run a dishonest scam like this is no-one I want to buy ANYTHING from, and buying it from them would reward them for their sleazy trick. I haven't been back to any of her outlets since then.

If you're a 2nd-hand goods dealer, ADVERTISE HONESTLY and pay for the damned advertising. If necessary, rent a lot and hold a FLEA MARKET every Saturday/Sunday 12-6pm SLT, when people are off work and piddling around in SL!!! Or get together and form a 2nd-hand dealers' group, chip in to rent mall space, so that shoppers won't have to zip all over SL trying to track down 2nd-hand items. For 30+ years, there was a huge warehouse-sized place on Rte 1 just south of Alexandria (northern VA) called THIEVES' MARKET -- inside, the space was cut up into small shops and booths, rented out to antiques/collectibles dealers. Basically, it was a big indoor flea market. The nearest thing to it in SL I've found is the castle with the rental spaces inside, which has just alot of the same old clothes/rugs/tats you can find in any mall in SL, so it's just another ho-hum mall, not a "flea market"-type place in the style of our old THIEVES' MARKET. Gods, I miss that place.

(BTW: I've worked in retail for years, and am well aware of the "loss leader" tactic, however a _real_ "loss leader" is something the dealer gets in BULK that people REALLY WANT. The dealer then gives a SERIOUS DISCOUNT on these high-demand bulk items in order to get more people in his business, hopefully to pick up some other sales. However, I've never seen SAFEWAY or WALMART running a "yard sale" on used goods.)