(all members were in agreement over having the chatlog published, and a big sign was present on stage indicating that the chatlog would be made available in the forums).
Gabe Lippmann: well, it seems like the last meeting went up in smoke
You: sorry carl i was too late
Gabe Lippmann: so we didn't really get anything finalized
Gabe Lippmann: hey, Carl
Carl Metropolitan: Hi.
You: we did actually get the issue of funding stream publication finalized
Alisa Honey: bling off
You: and we also finalized that voting should happen at meetings and by members only
Carl Metropolitan: Yes--SL decided to adjourn the last meeting whether we wanted to or not.
Alisa Honey: ty
You: heh
You: it may be useful to have a tracker system on the land
You: one that says who was here when.
You: just in case we notice a pattern emerge.
Boliver Oddfellow: I'm not a member yet, but I'd like to be
You: that is if sims go down at every meeting etc.
You: ah boliver that's cool. just join up. it is free to join.
kaia Ennui: bite ur tongue
Boliver Oddfellow: cool
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You: hey carl, did you get the chatlog sign done?
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Carl Metropolitan: I did that last week.
You: if not i can mess with one. yayyy. kewl. heh
Carl Metropolitan: I just put it up

You: wanna put it out again?
You: ya you rule. heh
You: where is it? *looks up* ahhh awesome!
You: Beautiful!
You:

Carl Metropolitan: That's more obvious.
kaia Ennui: well done
You: *claps*
Carl Metropolitan: We had it up last week.
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Carl Metropolitan: It may have been to high up for most people to notice
You: awesome.
You: anyone need an agenda for the meeting today?
You: we should decide if we want to add anything to it and then get going probably.
kaia Ennui: yup
Carl Metropolitan gave you FFRC Public Meeting Sign.
You: ty Carl.
You: I guess we can take 3.2 off
Gabe Lippmann: Yes, let's get going
You:

You: want to chair, Gabe?
Gabe Lippmann: right on, one down
You: hehe
Carl Metropolitan: Alisa is a friend of mine who is interested in the FFRC.
You: yay! good to see you again, Alisa.

kaia Ennui: hello
Alisa Honey: ty
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Carl Metropolitan: There's the stuff from the last few meetings--I just dropped it on you, Alsia
Alisa Honey: hi
Alisa Honey: ok ill look at it after
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You: well i could address the first issue
You: and that is the funding streams.
You: if folks like, you can check outthe link to see where we published them.
You: i would encourage folks to pass that link on to anyone you know who makes rich content.
You: i'd like to see some applications for next meeting.

You: hello Alexa.
Alexa Bliss: and hi to all
kaia Ennui: hello and welcome
Carl Metropolitan: What is the name of our Funding Robot again? I want to make my November donation while I'm thinking about it.
Gabe Lippmann: FFRCAccounting Control
Alexa Bliss: ao off
Carl Metropolitan: Done
Carl Metropolitan: Thanks
Gabe Lippmann: Ok, your post looks good Perse
You: great. anyone have any suggestions for getting the word out that we are accepting applications?
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Gabe Lippmann: post is good
Lenin Camus: hello
Carl Metropolitan: Yes--Hold an event.
Gabe Lippmann: advertising is a possibility too
kaia Ennui: forum, word of mouth, maybe metaverse
Carl Metropolitan: FFRC Funding Party

Gabe Lippmann: event is most excellent idea, Carl
kaia Ennui: definitely
You: true. we could advertise. but yes that would be a great idea.
You: hello kenneth steinbeck.
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You: a Kick off event!
Carl Metropolitan: Sort of like the "Meet & Greet" we did last month.
KennethAnthony Steinbeck: hello
You: yeah that would rule.

Gabe Lippmann: sure thing
kaia Ennui: hello
Boliver Oddfellow: what I want to know is how do I get funding for something truly original
Carl Metropolitan: You come to one of our meetings and apply

But first read the guidelines at :
/110/32/68930/1.html#post714987You: you would fill out an application, declare conflict of interest when it is being voted over (I think) and then wait to see if others vote it in.
Boliver Oddfellow: sounds good
You: if i were a member, I would not vote on applications I submit. as an officer, i am not submitting any applications.
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Carl Metropolitan: The idea is to avoid the appearance of a conflict of interest.
Boliver Oddfellow: makes sense
You: *nods*
You: ok so that's number one
Gabe Lippmann: check
You: number two on the agenda is voting mechanism discussion.
You: we didn't finish discussing whether or not we would like to require that voting members make a contribution.
You: i had a question about that... wouldn't that make for extra work in terms of tracking?
Carl Metropolitan: Yes it would

Gabe Lippmann: yes
You: like would gabe have to be present at each meeting in order to ascertain who had and who hadn't contributed?
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Gabe Lippmann: we could have an up to date list, but
You: what if we were just to make it so you pay a one-time fee of $50 to join?
Gabe Lippmann: have we determined that is our method for sure
You: if you are a voting member, you will then have paid.
You: and we can ask for people who joined before to retroactively contribute their $50.
Carl Metropolitan: Well--my idea was for keeping griefers and scammers out.
You: this would lessen the likelihood of griefers joining en masse.
kaia Ennui: hmmmmm
Persephone Phoenix nods
Carl Metropolitan: If we don't think that's going to be a problem.
kaia Ennui: 50 usd?
You: no. hah. linden
Carl Metropolitan: No!
You: hehe
kaia Ennui: holy shit ok then
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Persephone Phoenix giggles
kaia Ennui: i nearly fainted
You: hehehe
Carl Metropolitan: Do we get credit for previous donations?
You: Sorry Kaia. I always forget my Ls
You: i'd say, yes.
Carl Metropolitan: Or does everyone need to pony up 50L
You: i think lots of people here have given more than 50L
Gabe Lippmann: no way Carl pony up ur 50

florenze Kerensky: in a previous meeting someone mentioned 50 was too steep for someone let's say with a basic membership
You: haha
Persephone Phoenix nods
florenze Kerensky: would it be possible to sponsor members? ie a member paying fee for them?
You: what do you gus think?
Carl Metropolitan: I think that's fine.
You: sure, any private member could sponsor another member, i'd think.
Alisa Honey: 5o is there whole stipend'
florenze Kerensky: er, how do you contribute now?
Gabe Lippmann: i'm willing to let my issues with it go
kaia Ennui: of course, its ur linden if you want to drop it on an interested but broke person, why not
You: yeah. this is true.
Gabe Lippmann: if we can settle it for good
Carl Metropolitan: That's true--it is a one week basic member stipend.
You: well how about $40 then?
You: a bit less than a full week's stipend?
kaia Ennui: i dont see how 50L will keep out a griefer, but whatever
You: true
Boliver Oddfellow: no amount of L is going to keep out a griefer
Carl Metropolitan: Look--I'm okay with tabling this suggestion till we see if we have a problem.
You: i think the idea initially was that if people had to pay before voting they wouldn't scam, the system.
You: ok.
You: let's do that then carl.
Carl Metropolitan: I'm afraid, it is burning up too much of our discussion time.
You: if we see people scamming the system, we can reintroduce it as anti fraud measures.
kaia Ennui: i say scrap it lol
You: heh
kaia Ennui: and move on
Carl Metropolitan: Wasn't officer recall deleted from 1.7 anyway?
You: Next, published meeting logs
Alisa Honey: yes
kaia Ennui: sure
Carl Metropolitan: Then the major problem with tons of griefers has gone away.
Gabe Lippmann: good point
You: so i got an answer from ethan and that was affirmative
You: that we can publish chat logs as long as everyone is in agreement.
You: is everyone in agreement?
Carl Metropolitan: I think the big sign is good enough notice.
Gabe Lippmann: ok, i don't see it as much of an issue then
florenze Kerensky: yea
Carl Metropolitan: Yes
Carl Metropolitan: I agree
kaia Ennui: yes
Gabe Lippmann: sure and put it in the event listing
You: heh i agree carl, but he didn't go so far as to say that.
You: ok. heh
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You: i think we have to at some point ask.
Gabe Lippmann: as to publishing though
You: we can do that at the beginning of meetings maybe or somewhere.
Gabe Lippmann: are we going to publish any votes
You: yeah gabe?
Gabe Lippmann: or keep that private?
You: i think not.
You: i'd say we keep votes private, but list those funded.
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You: there's no reason to hurt someone's feelings when they get few votes.
Alisa Honey: i agree
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Gabe Lippmann: i was just noting that there will be portions of meetings
Gabe Lippmann: not being published
You: *nods* true
You: sound ok? that we don't publish votes?
kaia Ennui: yes
Gabe Lippmann: sure
kaia Ennui: are we not using group IM to vote?
You: awesome.
You: nope
You: coz that could still be used by griefers, kaia
You: esp since we are a free to join group.
kaia Ennui: we are a paranoid bunch LOL
You: someone could just get all their friends to join before a vote.
kaia Ennui: but ok, sure
Alisa Honey: vote board machine??
You: heh well it is just that if we are asking for votes (maybe alisa!)
You: erm asking for money that is, we need to have extra precautions against fraud.
You: because we fundraise for public funds.
You: make sense?
Alisa Honey: i always feel better when votes r like that i hate im votes cuase ussaly friends win
kaia Ennui: *looks around shiftily
You: yeahme too. i was thinking we might just vote out loud tho.
You: like we usually do... aye, na, etc. heh
Carl Metropolitan: Like all those "Best Slutz in Tight Clothz" contests at clubs

You: but i do have one of those voting boards and we could use it if anyone wants.
Gabe Lippmann: i always win those
Alexa Bliss: lol
You: hehe i can see that Gabe!
kaia Ennui: not when Im there u dont
Alisa Honey: well good thing i never win i dont want that title carl loll
Carl Metropolitan: You ave a great alls, Gabe... Your AV is blessed.
You: so anything else about published meeting logs? if not we can move on to security.
Gabe Lippmann: On to 4!
You: gosh we're almost through the agenda! lol
Carl Metropolitan: And the sim hasn't even crashed.
Gabe Lippmann: shhhhh, Carl
kaia Ennui: shhhh
kaia Ennui: dont anger it, carl
You: i only had one question here and that is if there is any way to tell who is in the sim at meetings?
Alisa Honey: map?
You: just coz if we did see a pattern of sim crashes, it could be handy.
Alisa Honey: and go chase dots
You: like i have a thing that
You: haha
Gabe Lippmann: it's a nice add to logs too as far as attendees
You: i have this thing that messages my email when people are on my property. and yes. aids in the weak memories of us old folk.
Alexa Bliss: lol
You: heh
You: so i was wondering if hollywood had one of those thingies?
Alisa Honey: if u fget alot of crashes what bout alternitive meeting place?
Persephone Phoenix nods that's a good idea.
Gabe Lippmann: we can ask Mark
You: i could offer a backup place at the spa if we have another crash.
You: i have an outdoor theatre space on the 2nd floor that could work.
Carl Metropolitan: We can also use the NCI
Gabe Lippmann: sure
You: hollywood is very nicely set up for us though.
Alisa Honey: near the mud wrestling?
Alisa Honey: loll
You: heh no under it. lol
kaia Ennui: stop talking crashes..shhhhhh
kaia Ennui: its not going to happn
You: in the outdoor garden on teir 2.
Alisa Honey: im sure if need be u can use serpents isle
You: but yeah next time we can have a backup.
You:

You: should we consider getting some group land in a pg sim maybe?
Alisa Honey: eww pg
You: i think i'd like to see that in the long term: ffrc having it's own land.
Carl Metropolitan: I have a very nice place in a PG sim!
Alisa Honey: they need to get rid of pg they got a teen grid now
Gabe Lippmann: sure, would be easy enough
Carl Metropolitan: I think it is a good idea.
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You: i know alisa, but some folks who play during the day have kids around and stay in pg lands for that reason.
Alisa Honey: whats with all the pics?
You: there isn't anything objectionable here, but someone might not attend a meeting he or she sees in a mature sim.
You: heh i dunno.
Carl Metropolitan: The ones I'm taking are of your thong

Gabe Lippmann: For advertising purposes, Carl?
You: i took one for the sign to post on hotline to linden to see if we needed to ask permission to publish chat logs.
Alisa Honey: thats for later not here
You: haha carl.
Carl Metropolitan: Right...
You: *grins*
Carl Metropolitan: Join the FFRC--see this at meetings!
You: ok anyway. on to 5. hehe
Gabe Lippmann: Excellent
You: anyone have anthing else to add about security?
Gabe Lippmann: No
Carl Metropolitan: No.
You: yay.
You: Group IM. heh. I noticed we got an ad during the week on the group IM.
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Gabe Lippmann: I got a few through various groups
You: I am wondering if we need to clarify the purpose of the group im for FFRC
Gabe Lippmann: all the same ad
Alisa Honey gave you sensor cone.
kaia Ennui: i think so persephone
You: posted by dark korvin?
kaia Ennui: yes
Gabe Lippmann: ty, Carl
Carl Metropolitan: What was the ad?
You: yeah i would like to propose that we just ask folks to use the group IM for ffrc for tp offers only maybe.
You: oh about ad sales.
You: erm land sales
You: lol
Gabe Lippmann: yeah land or rentals or some shit
Gabe Lippmann: didn't really read it
You: me either.
kaia Ennui: i agree - not the place for it
Carl Metropolitan: Yes--spamming the group IM is bad.
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You: kewl. sounds like we are agreed.
You: could we have a policy to kick out spammers?
Alisa Honey: he buys newb land pg 1000 m 2000 acording to profile a scam artist
You: some groups do.
Carl Metropolitan: Yes.
Carl Metropolitan: I agree.
Gabe Lippmann: Cool
kaia Ennui: sure
kaia Ennui: one warning and we blow his head off second time around
kaia Ennui:

Gabe Lippmann: Good idea
kaia Ennui: can i be the group disciplinarian?
You: k. sounds good then.

i guess we are met unless we have other agenda items folks would like to add. (hah @ Kaia)
Carl Metropolitan: Well, it's a lot better than the 2 Fat Slags

Looks like the free market is starting to raise the price of scamming newbies

You: OOO kaia in leather with a whip! i see it now.
kaia Ennui: spanking and warning then death
You: hehe
Gabe Lippmann: perfect
You: any other agenda items?
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Carl Metropolitan: IF Kaia is spanking spammes, we will get lots of spammers

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kaia Ennui: hmm good point, carl
Gabe Lippmann: no, but i would like to put on the agenda for next time
You: HAHA true. might be an incentive rather than disincentive considering how large the bdsm community is here. lol
Gabe Lippmann: that we agree on a specific event
Gabe Lippmann: to do
You: oooo good idea. ok. so next agenda: event planning for kick off event.
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You: we could do that now too
You: we've only met for 40 minutes.
You: wouldn't take too long to get a start anyway
Alisa Honey: if we join the group can we still do an application?
Gabe Lippmann: nice Carl
Gabe Lippmann: yes, Alisa
kaia Ennui gave you FFRC - We got back!.
Carl Metropolitan: Can it be something that people can come to and present proposals?
You: i would say yes, so long as you abstain from voting about your own proposal. heh
Gabe Lippmann: just don't vote on ur own proposal
Carl Metropolitan: Yes--you just can't vote on your own.
You: heh ty kaia.

Carl Metropolitan: LOL.
Alisa Honey: well that be a given wouldnt it loll
Carl Metropolitan: Love the shot!
You: hehe
kaia Ennui:

Alisa Honey: u would
You: *grins* so what kind of event? should it be itself rich content?
KennethAnthony Steinbeck: lol
You: like maybe a live musician playing?
kaia Ennui: gabe what about the performance artist u mentioned?
You: it would be so kewl to have a live musician playing and wine and cheese.
Carl Metropolitan: I will volunteer to whine.
You: brb 2 shakes. running to let a cat in.
Alisa Honey: i got a flute that works loll
Gabe Lippmann: have only briefly spoken with him
Gabe Lippmann: but scheduled this week to
Gabe Lippmann: could be a nice side light
kaia Ennui: yes
kaia Ennui: if ur all still interested in drum circle
kaia Ennui: i can arrange the drums, free
kaia Ennui: and the land too
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kaia Ennui: wont cost us anything and its awesome
Gabe Lippmann: sounds cool
Alisa Honey: pow wow?
Carl Metropolitan: I have an idea--instead of trying to decide everything as a committe here--why not appoint a few people to just go plan the event? Include an officer, if you like?
Gabe Lippmann: sounds perfect Carl
kaia Ennui: sure
You: ok. so we have a kick off event subcommittee?
Gabe Lippmann: that is the idea, i think
You:

who wants to be on it?
You: heh
Gabe Lippmann: save us going round in circles on this
kaia Ennui: depends what it is
You: what did you envision, Gabe?
Carl Metropolitan: That's up to the subcommitte, I think

Carl Metropolitan: That's the whole point.
Gabe Lippmann: for what?
You: for the kick off event? lol
You: you wanna be the officer for that subcommittee?

Gabe Lippmann: skydiving elvises
Gabe Lippmann: fire eating
Carl Metropolitan: That would be cool.
Gabe Lippmann: hula dancers
Carl Metropolitan: Skydiving Elvises
florenze Kerensky: turkey drop?
florenze Kerensky:

Carl Metropolitan: "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could FLY!"
Gabe Lippmann: giant Tringo tourney
kaia Ennui: lol
Gabe Lippmann: hah, Les
You: lollll
Alisa Honey: they cant?
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kaia Ennui: if drum circle is event you would like to happen i will subcomittee that one
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Alisa Honey: whats a drum circle
kaia Ennui: because i have the contacts to get it arranged fairly easily
You: that sounds awesome kaia
kaia Ennui: its interactive drums - they are quite awesome
You: because it is artsy but easy and interactive.
Carl Metropolitan: Cool.
You: yeah very fun. sounds great!
kaia Ennui: gabe if u dont volunteer to be my officer in subcomittee i will cry
Carl Metropolitan: Which one of you officer types is going to be on the committee?
You: haha
kaia Ennui: gabe.
Gabe Lippmann: OK
You: if he doesn't i will. i think rye is pretty busy these days with work.

kewl. sounds great
kaia Ennui: he's already in my drum circle group knows the set up
kaia Ennui: yay ty gabe
Carl Metropolitan: Great.
You: you go gabe. so gabe and kaia you plan the kick off event
Carl Metropolitan: Sounds like a subcommittee

You:

let us know if you need any support. heh
florenze Kerensky: i can be a goffer on the committee if you need spare hand
You: that is people to help out with the preparation
Gabe Lippmann: Certainly will, Perse
You: hehe awesome.
kaia Ennui: ty! will do
Gabe Lippmann: Great, florenze
Alisa Honey: carl will clean the bathrooms
kaia Ennui: lol
Carl Metropolitan: One other thing... We talked last week about another subcommittee. A group to approach potential donors on behalf of the FFRC.
You: ok. so it sounds like we are met then?

any other ideas for the agenda for next time?
You: oh yes! a development group.
Gabe Lippmann: yes, Carl
Carl Metropolitan: I want to put that on next week's agenda
You: i'll add that to the agenda next time too
Gabe Lippmann: good idea
Carl Metropolitan: Right now, we seem to have plenty of money.
Carl Metropolitan: But--that won't last if we are sucessful
Gabe Lippmann: true
Gabe Lippmann: or if all the land speculation i sunk it into
Gabe Lippmann: doesn't pan out
Carl Metropolitan: We will have Kaia spank you!
kaia Ennui: weeeeee
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Gabe Lippmann: OK
You: hahaha!
Gabe Lippmann: are we wrapped then
Gabe Lippmann: before the end of the hour
Gabe Lippmann: ??
You: i'd say so!

kaia Ennui: woOOhoOOooo
Carl Metropolitan: I second the impled motion to "wrap"
You: see agendas are a good thing
You: hehe
Gabe Lippmann: if you stay on target
Persephone Phoenix nods