Should we, as users, be making a wider fuss about the forum closings? Should we be spreading the story to cnet, slashdot, boingboing, digg, msnbc, etc? Would this exposing of Linden Lab to wider scrutiny do any good?
Would it do any good to contact Linden Lab's investors, Globespan Capital, and express our displeasure as a community?
Send them a petition, maybe? Am I just dreaming?
Here's the contact page for Globespan Capital, if anyone thinks it would be useful to contact them:
http://www.globespancapital.com/index.cfm/ContactUs
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paulie Femto
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08-12-2006 20:27
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Macphisto Angelus
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08-12-2006 20:40
Am I just dreaming? Just start clicking them ruby heels together and repeat after me.. "There's no place like home" _____________________
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Doubledown Tandino
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08-12-2006 20:43
ok, lets make a fuss
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paulie Femto
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here's my letter to Globespan Capital
08-12-2006 21:31
I just sent it. Feel free to copy and paste it for your own letter. Maybe if they recieve enough of these letters, they'll get on the phone to Linden Lab and ask what's happening over here. Won't THAT be an interesting conversation.
 --- snip --- I don't know if it will do any good to contact Globespan with this, but I feel that I should try. I'm writing to express my displeasure, and the displeasure of the online community, with recent management decisions made by one of your investment partners. Linden Lab, creators of the online community SECOND LIFE, (http://www.secondlife.com) have disappointed a large portion of their customer base by deciding to close the online FORUMS at www.secondlife.com. The FORUMS are an area where customers can communicate with Linden Lab management and with each other. Linden Lab's reasoning is that the FORUMS have become unmanageable and that customer/ management communication will be better served by Linden-run weblogs (BLOGS.) Negative responses to this decision, on the remaining FORUMS, indicate that the customer base disagrees. The BLOG format presents less opportunity for customer / management interaction than the FORUM format. The BLOG format does not allow users to post original questions to Linden Lab, but only to reply to Linden announcements. The BLOG format does not allow direct communication, customer to management or customer to customer. All customer posts on the BLOG can be "HELD FOR MODERATION" and deleted at Linden Lab's discretion, without ever being displayed to other customers or the public. This level of micromanagement rankles customers who signed up with the understanding that they would be treated like mature adults. This removal of the "public square" is a blow to the developing online community that Linden Lab constantly claims to be nurturing. Linden Lab adds insult to insult by claiming that the BLOG format offers the same functionality as the FORUM format. If it is within your power as an investment partner of Linden Lab to question their management decisions, I ask that you contact Linden Lab and question this recent removal of an important community function. Thank you, from an individual customer and from the online community at Second Life. --- snip --- _____________________
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paulie Femto
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08-12-2006 21:37
Doubledown: ok, lets make a fuss Heh. What joo wann do? _____________________
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Khamon Fate
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08-12-2006 21:55
It's sort of like standing on a cliff watching the sails dip over the horizon knowing I'll never see those people again. Throwing rocks at the water doesn't bring them back; but it somehow makes me feel better.
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Doubledown Tandino
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08-12-2006 22:15
Heh. What joo wann do? I fling poo mostly. _____________________
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Luciftias Neurocam
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08-12-2006 23:08
Sure...make a big fuss. I will.
For example, I'm throwing a forum-death party. When the forums are finally unplugged, I'll be blowing up an effigy of them in-world, passing out cigars and champagne. That the kind of fuss you meant? oh, btw...thanks for the addy for Globespan capital. I just sent them a long email about how much I support this decision. |
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Chronic Skronski
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08-12-2006 23:25
Make sure you also send along a sample of General and Sandbox - say the latest 20 threads from each - to show them exactly what we are all going to be dearly missing.
Sure...make a big fuss. I will. For example, I'm throwing a forum-death party. When the forums are finally unplugged, I'll be blowing up an effigy of them in-world, passing out cigars and champagne. Can I come? I'll bring the party hats. _____________________
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Uma Bauhaus
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08-12-2006 23:31
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Axel Truss
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08-12-2006 23:48
how about we have some linden location protests?
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Vares Solvang
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08-12-2006 23:52
10 hours and 27 minutes.
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Axel Truss
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08-12-2006 23:53
till closure?
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Chronic Skronski
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08-12-2006 23:55
No, since Ulrika said that she was leaving.
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Devlin Gallant
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08-13-2006 16:34
LL won't listen to me since I already voted by deciding to note pay them anymore money a while back.
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Tre Giles
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08-13-2006 18:20
Should we, as users, be making a wider fuss about the forum closings? Should we be spreading the story to cnet, slashdot, boingboing, digg, msnbc, etc? Would this exposing of Linden Lab to wider scrutiny do any good? Would it do any good to contact Linden Lab's investors, Globespan Capital, and express our displeasure as a community? Send them a petition, maybe? Am I just dreaming? Here's the contact page for Globespan Capital, if anyone thinks it would be useful to contact them: http://www.globespancapital.com/index.cfm/ContactUs Great Idea, no really. _____________________
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paulie Femto
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Briana Dawson
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08-13-2006 20:57
LL won't listen to me since I already voted by deciding to note pay them anymore money a while back. This is exactly what I did. Now I just live off my freebie 4096. But with the way things are going, whose to say they will continue to honor the lifer deal they made with some of us. Briana Dawson _____________________
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Macphisto Angelus
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08-13-2006 21:14
But with the way things are going, whose to say they will continue to honor the lifer deal they made with some of us. I think you will be safe with that deal. At least as long as it is in the hands of Phil. If there is a sell out like some speculate (and I hope there isnt) then I am not sure if the new company will have to grandfather that in. I know I bought the lifetime There package and when I go back in after a few months it is always there waiting. If they honor it still with the amount of people who have left, I am sure Linden Labs will be able to as well. At least I hope so for those of you that have them. _____________________
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Uma Bauhaus
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08-13-2006 21:15
It made the front page of the Digg Gaming page. Great job everyone!
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Yiffy Yaffle
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08-14-2006 01:40
Should we, as users, be making a wider fuss about the forum closings? Should we be spreading the story to cnet, slashdot, boingboing, digg, msnbc, etc? Would this exposing of Linden Lab to wider scrutiny do any good? Would it do any good to contact Linden Lab's investors, Globespan Capital, and express our displeasure as a community? Send them a petition, maybe? Am I just dreaming? Here's the contact page for Globespan Capital, if anyone thinks it would be useful to contact them: http://www.globespancapital.com/index.cfm/ContactUs If worst happens Second Life will close down and i'l lose all my friends. All i want is the forums to stay. It's bad enough they have to go... Only thing i can think about doing is taking a snapshot of the forums viewing a post by robbin or another linden discussing how the forums are closing. In photoshop make it look like a corner of it is burned, and upload it into SL setting fire to it with a few turds if thats how you like... The forums will sadly be missed. But theres no going back. Trying to change LL's mind is like teaching a brick wall to dance. O.o _____________________
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Flavian Molinari
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08-14-2006 03:55
I am most rankled.
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Shep Korvin
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08-14-2006 06:14
Would it do any good to contact Linden Lab's investors, Globespan Capital, and express our displeasure as a community? On the contrary, I think Linden Lab's investors would probably be _pleased_ that the forums are closing. Some of the more difficult topics being broached lately (ageplay, casino legality, poor service levels, IP theft etc) really don't paint SL in a good light. |
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Sexy Partridge
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honestly is it time to sell out and leave
08-14-2006 06:57
I am seriously wondering if it's time to leave SL. I hate the thought, since I do love the game, but am wondering where this is all going.
I just read about them banning someone for something their brother did and taking their money. I find that just outrageous. They are also closing forums as a way I feel to silence us and keep us from communicating with one another on a grand scale. They do updates each and every week with bugs running wild. I have not had such bad performance since I don't know when. Am I the only one thinking this? what do we do to get LL to listen to us to give us back the game we love and to fix it, not make it worse. |
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
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08-14-2006 19:58
I am seriously wondering if it's time to leave SL. I hate the thought, since I do love the game, but am wondering where this is all going. I just read about them banning someone for something their brother did and taking their money. I find that just outrageous. They are also closing forums as a way I feel to silence us and keep us from communicating with one another on a grand scale. They do updates each and every week with bugs running wild. I have not had such bad performance since I don't know when. Am I the only one thinking this? what do we do to get LL to listen to us to give us back the game we love and to fix it, not make it worse. On top of that they don't listen to their customers and they allow cyber terrorists to raom the grid causing mayham with NO punishment. Then they punish normal people for nothing... If i still had ANY faith in Ll i would havelost that today. Sure SOME of the lindens are nice, but that doesn't excuse the company's actions. They need to either shape up or ship out. Actions like these cannot just be ignored. They need to be made up for. it's too late to go back and pretend nothing happened. Free Unverified accounts was the first bad idea i saw... Thats what lead into a lot of the other problems. Their also punishing adults by giving us a FREE grid with no CC required, while the teens still have to pay. So where are all the teens gona go? Here! Cuz they arent old enough to have a credit card... I swear LL either lost their minds or they became pure evil. _____________________
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