An almost clever squatter.

Ok so I log in to one of the sims I manage and do my usual daily cleanup of objects. On the objects list I see a familiar name, a person who showed up the night before for an event, stayed for a few minutes and left again... and he has 294 objects on the sim.

I'm thinking wtf..thats a lot of objects. Generally I run into one or two that someone has left lying around or occasionally several that are a peice of furniture...but this is a bit much. Instead of just returning them I decide to be curious and my partner and I start looking around. Inside a hollowed out waterfall where we hadn't finished building we found it... a whole gorean bath thing, very fancy, lots of pose balls and hidden behind a wall of rocks that very carefuly blended with the rocks we'd already had there. Not only did this guy decide to squat on our land, he hid it with our own decorating style.

Now let me ask those who make squatting a habit.... so you hide your build, you make your little home and think you can come and go as you please, does it ever occur to you that people check their objects lists? Do you get away with this long enough to make all that building effort worth it?

From what I can see this guy clearly spent some time on this, moving things into place, carefully copying our landscaping and hiding his prims in amongst our own. This didnt take a couple of minutes. Of course in my case that only makes it all the more satisfying to hit return. But is it worth the effort? Does squatting like this succeed?

When someone uses that many of your prims do you return the items or delete them?

I'd delete, not return. Just for giggles.

I won't delete, I'll just return, but I'll return with open hostility and a who the hell do you think you are type of conversation.

I'd invite my freinds over. Take pics. Then set autoreturn.

And leave a security orb in its place.

Better. Greet them. Have casual conversation like they're totally not in the wrong. Then start returning things piece by piece and be all like, "omgwtf is goin' on?!".

More fun. Make a device that will work only on him. Everytime he goes near the hideout, the device makes him bounce up and down uncontrollably (small significant pushes). If he tries to sit, you can llUnSit him and continue the bouncing.

You at least have to admire the persons ingenuity,... before you delete all his work.

We once had a guy rent one of our 10mX20m vendor booths and set up his home in it. He had a tv and book shelf with books and pictures on it. He even had a loft. Oh, he also had a motorcycle with a bunch of prims in it. Of course he was about 5X his prim limit for the booth but we had the extra prims so we let him stay until his rent was up. Then we booted him.

hehe, now there's thought. One with only his name in it so that he's the only one it bounces.



The thing is I know I can just turn on autoreturn and not have to deal with things like this, but I like letting people who visit our sim set up a cuddle ball or a favorite chair while they're here. I like leaving it open to people to be able to use the sim as they choose. The daily cleanup usually takes all of a minute so it's hardly a problem and we're cautious about protecting people from griefers.

I don't see this as a form of griefing, it's just asanine and rude and frankly this is the most extreme case of squatting I've come across yet. This guy is definately old enough to know better (3 months).

EDIT: LOL love it

I understood that "Delete" actually just returned them to the person's inventory. You can't actually delete other people's prims, can you?

NoTransfer items are deleted, I believe. It tells me that as a warning everytime I return someone's property off my land. Since I only return items left by random drops, this doesn't matter to me. I ask friends to pick up first, and will give someoen a few days to answer an IM/Notecard about a vehicle/aircraft before sending it to the great great void.

As for the squatter; I'd leave thier stuff there and landban them, AR them and e-mail support for immeadiate assistence. No call at all for that. The person was cheating you of prims, LL of money (for thier own tier), and the sim of resources that they had no right to.

All in all, this person was scum. and before anyone says "newbie", I call bullsh*t. Not to set up as described behind blinds and with perfect texturing that fooled the owner. I hope LL perm-bans them.

~Jessy

No, not anymore. If it's a no copy prim it is returned to the owner even if you are the owner.

A few days ago I found a house built on Gypsy by two women whom I guess decided they liked the sim. They added it to their picks and named it "home." I returned the prims and have now opted for auto return set at 20 minutes.


Their squatting really made me laugh because people can be funny characters. Open expanded membership does give us the problems of kids and griefers, but it also adds a much needed element of humor, something that used to exist in SL but was lost to serious capitalism!

There's nothing quite like coming home to find that a new user has spent nearly two hours building on our land out of industrial-complex prefab components, and is now proudly showing his lady friend around the build. Then the autoreturn starts to roll it all up.

I think some people honestly believe that they can just start building anywhere there's open space.

It's kind of sad,really.

I love the idea of leaving his items in place, especially anything he had to pay for, then setting up a security ball so he can't get anywhere near them. I would be willing to put up with the loss of prims for a week or so. LOL

To bad Delete Items sends them back to the Owner's inventory.

Until you have owned land and played gotten familiar with the About Land tools, you don't realize what tools are available to a land owner to sniff out intrusions on like this. So I can easily imagine a 3 month old not knowing that his intrusion would be obvious to you eventually.

I never even thought of squatting on someone else's land. I can't believe someone would actually have the audacity to do so. *shakes head sadly* What a world we live in.

That is one I've seen on my land. I had a sandbox open for a month or so and on one of my sky-sandboxes someone kept building a full on house, the same one, over and over again. It was obviously a prefab but I found it kind of entertaining that they would login, drop their house, hang out and enjoy the view for a bit then leave and let their home get autoreturned.. This happened several times in the period of a week or so before they stopped.

If you've got time to the best fun would be to delete all his objects then set up replicas of them all in the same place. Scripted to go transparent when he's in a small sensor range and reappear when he steps back away from it

Then get your cameras rolling and wait for the fun..

hehehe ... oh well, don't have that kind of time or energy.

As it turned out his defense was, that he didn't know it wouldn't be ok. Yeah maybe if I was really gullible I might have bought that... except for the fact that he so carefully hid it inside my unfinished waterfall and covered up with copies of my own rocks. It really was well done. If my partner (the landowner) hadn't found the thing when we went looking for the nearly 300 prims I might have just glanced at the outside and assumed they finished the waterfall.

So yea, not buyin that he didn't know what he was doing, he certainly knew enough to hide it.
I think ArchTx hit the nail on the head.
Yup.

YOu know i have a few extra

Time and time again, we get people doing crazy things at the store I and a few others have in Kitsune. There's a VERY large sign in front of the building that clearly says "no building" and "no naughty bits". Every day when I log in, the first thing I do is scout out other people's prims. There's usually only a few scattered ones, forgetten avatar boxes and such, but sometimes I'll go over and there's a bunch of people just standing there building stuff! Then there's the exhibitionists that prance around on a daily basis. Often times I'll stand by the sign emoting "/me points to the freakin' huge sign", and maybe set the offender on fire to get the point across >:} I really don't get why people refuse to follow rules.

I find stuff all the time. Takes me a few seconds a day to send any stuff back. So some guy got creative and moved into your cave? Lol, at least you got an interesting story to tell the grandkids. Was the guy building a nuke in there? No, he build a bathhouse. Ooooh, those insidious homeless persons! Lounging behind my waterfall!!! Charge him a few days cave rental if it makes you feel better. But destroy the guys poseballs? Sounds a tad malicious.

I didn't destroy anything, I just returned it all after discussing it with him. I thought there were some pretty funny suggestions here and believe me I had fun thinking about them, but in the end I think I handled it more kindly than I was required to. Granted he ended up with a whole lot of "objects" filling up his lost and found, but that's his own fault for not linking. This build was not amatourish (sp?) this was someone who knew what he was doing.

Oh and it wasn't a cave he moved into, it was a still unfinished build of a cave and waterfall, something someone else is working on.

Anyway, it's over and done with now, the guy has his stuff back and all is well....thanks everyone for the giggleworthy suggestions.

The guy left them on someone else's property, ON PURPOSE. Obviously he didn't care what happened to them.

I spend a bit of time everyday returning things too, and I really don't mind because I have a place near an infohub and I try to attract the newbies with fun things and freebies.

But I had a griefer using foul language towards me on my own land. I sent him on a free 60,000m trip and terraformed my land up over the bicycle he rode in on.

He wanted "fun" at my expense, so I had my "fun" at his.