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Jeffrey Gomez
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Join date: 11 Jun 2004
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05-11-2006 04:57
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
An IP address can be tracked to within a city, or smaller, isn't that correct?

Yep. The NSA even holds patent on a method.

Can the stereotypical, teenage "script kiddie" do so? Not really.
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ninjafoo Ng
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Join date: 11 Feb 2006
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05-11-2006 05:01
You can use the TOR network to hide your IP address, its good for web browsing (if you don't mind dialup speeds) - I wouldn't want to try streaming audio over it.
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Weedy Herbst
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05-11-2006 05:06
As far as streaming audio goes, if they can see your IP, then you can see their's.
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Nepenthes Ixchel
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Join date: 6 Dec 2005
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05-11-2006 05:36
From: Tod69 Talamasca
My IP Address is 192.168.0.1


Mine is 127.0.0.1. I'm right next door!
nimrod Yaffle
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05-11-2006 06:25
From: Nepenthes Ixchel
Mine is 127.0.0.1. I'm right next door!

Mine's 192.168.1.1, doesn't it depend on the type of router you have for your local network IP?
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Zalandria Zaius
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Join date: 17 Jan 2004
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05-11-2006 09:05
127.0.0.1 is a local loopback IP..

You'll get to know it if you ever do any web programming on the machine running the web server.

I saw a T-shirt on a web site I shoulda ordered.. It says "There's no place like 127.0.0.1"

Schwanson give me back my IP.. Now that you have it I can't do a dang thing..



I'd worry more if you have a wireless router in your home than someone getting your IP address. We have 2 un-secured wireless networks within connection distance of us.
katykiwi Moonflower
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Join date: 5 Dec 2003
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05-11-2006 09:13
It's as easy to find an IP as it is to find an unlisted telephone number if someone is really motivated.

So what if they know where you are located via your IP; you already stated they know your zip code which is even more specific for pinpointing your location.

When I stream music to my land using shoutcast I can see the IPs of those who start and finish listening in the shoutcast server window. To avoid that just disable music streaming when you are in SL and listen to music on your own stereo inside your home instead.

Better yet, get a good firewall set up and cancel this members card by deleting her name from your calling card folder in your inventory AND delete her name from the friends list on your SL screen too.

Don't worry about hurt feelings, just solve your problem.
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Jack Harker
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Join date: 4 May 2005
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05-11-2006 09:28
From: Siobhan Taylor
*shrug*, I'm on 127.0.0.1 and I don't care who knows it :p


OMG! So is *mine*!

Get out of my house!

:P
kerunix Flan
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Join date: 3 Sep 2005
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05-11-2006 10:35
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
An IP address can be tracked to within a city, or smaller, isn't that correct?


No it's wrong.
Tere Karuna
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Join date: 4 Jul 2004
Posts: 159
05-11-2006 10:56
From: Lordfly Digeridoo

Your IP address is nothing like your email address or your home address -- most ISPs change your IP address every time you connect



Dont forget lot people use cable and dont disconnect for days or weeks. Heck Ive gone a week without rebooting my computer. Curious, from a reboot is your IP changed or since the modem still running it not count as a reconnect?
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Noh Rinkitink
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Join date: 31 Jan 2006
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05-11-2006 20:06
From: Zalandria Zaius
I saw a T-shirt on a web site I shoulda ordered.. It says "There's no place like 127.0.0.1"


That's from ThinkGeek, specifically here.

So you can still order. :)
Lucian Overlord
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Join date: 23 Nov 2005
Posts: 15
05-11-2006 20:22
omg omg omg they got my ip address big brothers watching runs around in circles omg omg the sky is falling(chicken little syndrome)

sheese i swear to god you all never cease to amaze me some of you all need to get up turn your pc off and go outside and do something constructive or destructive whichever you preferr





lucian
Nolan Nash
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05-11-2006 20:51
From: Lordfly Digeridoo
most ISPs change your IP address every time you connect.

Hmm, my IP stays the same for months on end, unless we have an extended outage or something. It causes my roomie fits when it does change, which is rare, because he has to reconfigure webserver info (we host business websites here).

In fact, he just showed me a list of each time ours has changed since early 2002, and it's occured four times. Usually, this is due to a hardware change on either the ISP's end or that of the customer.

There really isn't "every time you connect", as most services are continuously connected these days.

Even if you unplug the power cord and data cable from your modem, and plug it back in a while later, it usually gets that last IP you had back for you - it's rare that it won't, unless you leave it disconnected for 48 hrs. or something. (most ISPs give you a 48 hour lease on that number, in case you do disconnect, so it can try to get you that number back.)

Now with dial-up, it will assign you a number from a pool of numbers, so in that case yes, but I am fairly sure most of us are not on dial-up when in SL, not by choice anyway.
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Cristiano Midnight
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05-11-2006 21:27
From: Tere Karuna
Dont forget lot people use cable and dont disconnect for days or weeks. Heck Ive gone a week without rebooting my computer. Curious, from a reboot is your IP changed or since the modem still running it not count as a reconnect?


My cable modem has been rebooted many times in the past 6 months, and the IP has remained the same, even though I do not have a static IP.
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Cristiano Midnight
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05-11-2006 21:29
From: Tod69 Talamasca
My IP Address is 192.168.0.1

Where am I? :D

People get all freaky when I'm fixing their lil' internet connection & "know" their Router's IP Address. LOL!! The less they know, the more I can freak 'em out! :D


Tod,

That is your internal network IP address, not your IP address on the internet. Check http://www.whatismyip.com to see your external IP address.
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Leaf Evans
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05-12-2006 02:17
From: Tere Karuna
Curious, from a reboot is your IP changed or since the modem still running it not count as a reconnect?


This usually depends on the ISP. Some are set up with dynamic IPs that change every time you relog, others assign you a static IP. More and more ISPs are leaning toward static IPs because it's easier on them legally and clerically. Kinda like license plates for cars.
Eddy Stryker
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Join date: 6 Jun 2004
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05-12-2006 02:43
From: Leaf Evans
This usually depends on the ISP. Some are set up with dynamic IPs that change every time you relog, others assign you a static IP. More and more ISPs are leaning toward static IPs because it's easier on them legally and clerically. Kinda like license plates for cars.


The dynamic IP reasoning back in the day was "we have 1000 customers, but only 200 are online at any given time. So we only need one class C subnet (254 addresses) to cover us". But now with broadband ISPs where you are connected until someone trips over the cord, that logic doesn't work anymore. Even if your ISP dynamically assigns you an IP, the DHCP cache expiration is generally set to a long enough interval that you will get the same IP again. I ran my IP address in a location thing and it was spot on (only went down to the city level though). I'll be in Spokane, WA (USA) for the next five weeks so you should have plenty of time to plan the assassination before I move and my IP address changes.
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