"Hacked God Mode" part of next client! How should those who paid L$2500 for it feel?

How does everyone who bought the L$2500 "God-mode hack" feel now that "Hacked God Mode" is a FEATURE in the SL update next week? Go try the preview download. There's two new menus -- CLIENT and SERVER. Under CLIENT is "Hacked God Mode" that gives us ALL the powers of the questionably-distributed product BUILT INTO the client.

I wonder if the creator's refund guarantee if the item no longer works still stands?

Technically, its still works. Its just not needed.


Therefore the refund can stand or not, but you won't get any money.

GOMity GOM GOM GOMity GOM GOM

Should be changed from GOD mode to GOM mode

Well I for one will not be asking for a refund for my (less than) $9USD.

You are suggesting that I ought to be pissed off, it seems, but I feel I really got my money's worth. Even considering the fact that I found out about a week after purchasing the God Mode on SLEx that there is enough freely available information on how to write my own version free of charge, I still feel that I got my money's worth.

The product will most likely continue to work, even if it's superfluous.

Boo hoo hoo and a raspberry too to everyone that hated and made such a stink about God Mode, and thanks to LL for including some of those capabilities in the client where they belong.

Well I was asking how they should feel, not suggesting they should be pissed, though I think some of them should be.

The creator made a hell of a lot of money on the product, while other members of libsecondlife released an absolutely free, open-source version of the same exact software.

It's like being charged $50 for OpenOffice and then learning it's actually a free download.

lol!

Ah, I understand. Well, some of them undoubtedly will be.



Does anybody really know how much was made? The common assumption seems to be that it was buckets and buckets, it makes me curious.



Which is exactly what open source developers do That is one of the hallmarks of open source, correct? I love and support and actively participate in open source development, but I never begrudge anybody the right to make money from their development efforts. Building commercial software is what allows me to provide for my family, and there are open source versions of almost everything I've developed in the last 12 years. Does that mean I should just give it all up?



I think of it more like being way overcharged for MS Office and finding out years later that OpenOffice is actually a good and worthwhile product and suitable replacement, which is what actually happened to me. I bought MS Office (and several upgrades over the years) because I needed it, and it served my purposes well. Of course, I will never buy it again, but I'm not gonna ask for my money back now.

libsecondlife is licensed under Modified BSD License. I don't see how he has gone against that license.

On the other hand if it was GPL'ed...

Actually, the original version of God Mode used a modified version of Snowcrash, which was donated and BSD licenced.
BTW, the old version of God Mode has gone into a branch of the libsecondlife SVN tree.

what exactly does "God Mode" allow one to do?

They should feel happy of course!

Because they got to play with the new toy a lot earlier than their fellow residents! And now it is part of the client, easier to use and to install. Where exactly is the problem?

I got it - I don't want a refund.

Much like I don't want a refund for the expensive cd system I bought a year ago that is now a quarter of the price.

I paid for it - I used it - its now free - such is life.

Lol, search the forums. The common belief is that it does everything from allowing better camera control all the way to eating all of the cheese in somebody else's house

People love it or hate it. For my part, I really appreciated the increased camera range (the default is just a little too short) and the ability to get an object's UUID when scripting without having to embed an llOwnerSay( llGetKey() ) in an object.

There are supposedly lots of exploits, but I have my doubts about them personally.

Got it, had plenty of fun with it... definitely got my moneys worth (even went so far as to pay for it twice because I liked it so much). No need for a refund.

http://compiledreality.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15

Simply put, God mode enables a new menu in your SL viewer with several options. These are options that normally only the Lindens get to see, including doing things like reclaiming land, kicking people out of SL, and some technical stuff.

Almost none of those features work, even though the menu items are there.

The few things that DO work are the ability to move the camera further away from your avatar (very handy for builders) and the ability to map anybody in SL, regardless of whether you're on their friends list.

It's a bit of a mixed bag, as it were, since many people feel that the camera thing enables spying (which it does, but since we have no right to privacy in SL, it's irrelevant), and that the map anyone feature is annoying, since it enables stalking. Personally, I do agree that mapping anyone is a bad thing. So did the Lindens, so that's going to be locked down (if it's not already) on the server side.

As to the finanical situation: The last IM I got, with the new God Mode download link, mentioned that he sent the message out to a bit over 500 people. At a cost of L$2500, that would be more than L$1,250,000. At an average selling rate of L$325, that would yield $3846.15.

I'm not making commentary either way: this is just information so that you can have an informed discussion.

Thank you very much for that link!!!!! I am now happier than ever that I purchased the God Mode on slex, since I now have some reason to believe that it was helping to fund and sponsor the libsl project. Cool!

I am wondering:

Is it now in the preview for us to map anyone we want?

Is it a part of the God mode that people bought for the user to map anyone he wants?

coco

Given past updates that were different than the Preview Grid, who's to say "Hacked God Mode" will even remain on the Debug Menu in the actual released 1.12 client?

The commercial God Mode no longer maps anyone (fixed by LL?), unless they are already in the same sim as you. No more mapping people all over the grid.

If that's what you were wondering...

I bought it, and I certainly don't expect a refund. I see it this way, because so many of us bought the hack it basically forced LL to add it to the client. I see my L$2000 of L$2500 or whatever the cost was as an investment to get LL to add features to the client that I actually want lol.

Which makes me wonder that if enough people were to contribute say $2500L a piece for some other reason, when the pot got big enough, would LL implement/fix/allow whatever the pot was for? Sounds like a new proposal system




*Note: I am not serious. Well, not entirely. There are certainly some things I'd pay $2500L for in SL but I think it would make a lousy proposal system. Unless it worked

We should cross post this in the L&E forum as a proposal for a new L$ sink hahaha

This is a very accurate statement. God mode did push things into the public eye, and it did influence LL's decisions for the 1.12 client. People who bought the product were part of that push. Libsecondlife is also doing some pushing, only thier version of God Mode was not talked about nearly as much I believe.

I bought it and couldn't care less. In fact, I'd like to see God mode made part of the regular client download.

The reason there was a free version is partially because of the herculean effort the creator of God MOD has gone to in order to ensure that there is a god mode.

The creator has, I believe, also spun back some of those profits into paying for BSD open source code to extend and improve libsecondlife.

I suggest you might want to google libsecondlife and see all the great things they're doing for the community before asking for a refund.