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KovuDaLion Oddfellow

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03-06-2006 20:57

Prop 1070 is doing great we have 65 votes lets keep it going.... more votes more votes... lets get this proposition approved by the lindens

PLEASE VOTE http://secondlife.com/vote/index.php?get_id=1070

KDL

KovuDaLion Oddfellow

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Lindens weigh in on floating windows

03-08-2006 18:36

In a reply to my "answers section question" the lindens have weighed in stating it appears that it will be quite a while for this to be implemented(/139/c2/92112/1.html), citing the number of items on the to do list. Lets push this vote over 1000 votes on the OFFICIAL vote. Lets show LL that we really want this feature implemented.

Please visit http://secondlife.com/vote/index.php?get_id=1070 and vote now move as many votes to this topic as you can. Remember once they acknowlege the vote and put it in production you get your votes back.

KDL

Charlie Omega

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03-08-2006 19:39

This and any idea that takes the clutter off the main viewer is a good idea, I once (long long ago) asked for a "dock/undock" option of scripting/notecards/any other various windows.

As of yet we no see it :-/.

So a big thumbs up I add to this.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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03-08-2006 19:44

The voting proposal mentioned above may be asking for more than is needed to accomplish the goal of getting better use out of two monitors when using SL.

More effective use of SL on two monitors could be accomplished simply by either allowing one to adjust what SL thinks is the horizontal center point of the world, the place where the avatar is depicted. Then to use two monitors effectively one just makes the SL window stretch across both monitors, and sets the avatar centering point in the middle of one monitor, and positions the dialogs, inventory, etc. on the other monitor. This is not the same as being able to drag the dialogs, inventories, etc. out of the SL window.

Alternately, but similarly, allow one to spit the SL window into word view area and interface element area. Stretch the SL display across both monitors and put the diving line where you get an acceptable result, presumably near the inner edge of one monitor.

If I understand correctly the idea of being able to drag the dialogs, etc. out of the SL window, like one can do in Photoshop, is difficult because SL uses OpenGl, which doesn't lend itself to doing that.

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Charlie Omega

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03-08-2006 21:07

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Then to use two monitors effectively one just makes the SL window stretch across both monitors, and sets the avatar centering point in the middle of one monitor, and positions the dialogs, inventory, etc. on the other monitor. This is not the same as being able to drag the dialogs, inventories, etc. out of the SL window.

Trouble with this is not all dual monitor users use the same resolution on each monitor.
Like me for example I run my main monitor at 2048x1536, and my 2nd at 1280x1024.

2nd issue is, (and possably the worst) it would unessessarily tax the system of rendering 3D across 2 monitors.

Hence my thought years back of docking/undocking various windows "out of" the SL client.

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Mega Prim issues and resolution ideas....
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SuezanneC Baskerville

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03-08-2006 21:58

From: Charlie Omega

Trouble with this is not all dual monitor users use the same resolution on each monitor.
Like me for example I run my main monitor at 2048x1536, and my 2nd at 1280x1024.

2nd issue is, (and possably the worst) it would unessessarily tax the system of rendering 3D across 2 monitors.

Hence my thought years back of docking/undocking various windows "out of" the SL client.

Well, it would be possible to run SL at the same resoultion on both monitors. That is something you can choose, while getting the SL programming staff to do something either impossible or unprofitably expensive is not something you can choose. With the choices I described, on your high resolution monitor, you could put the world on one side and the dialogs on the other - you wouldn't even really need two monitors with a resolution that high.

So one could work for something that is doable, and wouldn't take too awfully much work for the programmers, or one could ask for something that is said to be essentially impossible and has already been rejected.

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KovuDaLion Oddfellow

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03-13-2006 20:21

As i said before i could live with a dock area OUTSIDE of the game view that allows you to have your utility windows open in that dock area. This could even be set where you can have your gaming area appear on the left or right side which ever is your primary monitor and then put your accessories in the other window.

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KovuDaLion Oddfellow

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03-21-2006 09:31

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KovuDaLion Oddfellow

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04-02-2006 19:19

Sadly it looks like any interest in getting this feature added has waned. There have been no recent addition of votes to the proposition but i still hold out hope that LL will do it.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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04-02-2006 20:39

From: KovuDaLion Oddfellow

Sadly it looks like any interest in getting this feature added has waned. There have been no recent addition of votes to the proposition but i still hold out hope that LL will do it.

You might be able to generate more support by doing things such as: Include a link to the discussion thread and the voting page url for the proposition and such in your signature. Contact the people who have supported this idea and ask them to do the same. Make some picketing signs and have a fun friendly protest at the welcome area. Be sure to take some pictures of the protest and email them Snapzilla. Get on the #secondlife IRC channel and promote the idea there. Sign up with the forums at sluniverse.com and secondcitizen.com and promote the idea there. Ask your friends and acquaintances in SL to bump the thread.

Stuff like that.

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Usagi Musashi

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04-02-2006 23:11

Gesh......lets get current problems fixed first them witth see about these types of features.Until then its a pass

zaire Hansen

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04-03-2006 01:01

From: Laukosargas Svarog

I'm all for this !

Anything that helps declutter the main window.

I always use 2 monitors, I'd use 4 if I could.

WOW i have had a pc most of my life but never new you could us to monitors how do you do thi ?

Shadowspawn Soothsayer

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Great idea Kovu

06-06-2006 04:55

Having to move the building window around to see what's behind it, and deal with group chatter, local chatter and other distractions makes building less enjoyable. Clearing the screen, so all you see is what you are building would be fantastic.

Mad Wombat

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06-06-2006 04:58

From: zaire Hansen

WOW i have had a pc most of my life but never new you could us to monitors how do you do thi ?

You would need a graphics card with two connectors for the monitors.

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Ghoti Nyak

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06-06-2006 05:16

This is an awesome idea. I'm allocating 5 of my votes to this!

-Ghoti

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New Look and feel of client for users with multiple monitors
KovuDaLion Oddfellow Registered User Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 19	03-06-2006 20:57 Prop 1070 is doing great we have 65 votes lets keep it going.... more votes more votes... lets get this proposition approved by the lindens PLEASE VOTE http://secondlife.com/vote/index.php?get_id=1070 KDL
KovuDaLion Oddfellow Registered User Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 19	Lindens weigh in on floating windows 03-08-2006 18:36 In a reply to my "answers section question" the lindens have weighed in stating it appears that it will be quite a while for this to be implemented(/139/c2/92112/1.html), citing the number of items on the to do list. Lets push this vote over 1000 votes on the OFFICIAL vote. Lets show LL that we really want this feature implemented. Please visit http://secondlife.com/vote/index.php?get_id=1070 and vote now move as many votes to this topic as you can. Remember once they acknowlege the vote and put it in production you get your votes back. KDL
Charlie Omega Registered User Join date: 2 Dec 2002 Posts: 755	03-08-2006 19:39 This and any idea that takes the clutter off the main viewer is a good idea, I once (long long ago) asked for a "dock/undock" option of scripting/notecards/any other various windows. As of yet we no see it :-/. So a big thumbs up I add to this. _____________________ From: 5oClock Lach With a game based on acquiring money, sex, and material goods, SL has effectively recreated all the negative aspects of the real world. Mega Prim issues and resolution ideas.... http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/10/04/second-life-havok4-beta-preview-temporarily-offline/
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	03-08-2006 19:44 The voting proposal mentioned above may be asking for more than is needed to accomplish the goal of getting better use out of two monitors when using SL. More effective use of SL on two monitors could be accomplished simply by either allowing one to adjust what SL thinks is the horizontal center point of the world, the place where the avatar is depicted. Then to use two monitors effectively one just makes the SL window stretch across both monitors, and sets the avatar centering point in the middle of one monitor, and positions the dialogs, inventory, etc. on the other monitor. This is not the same as being able to drag the dialogs, inventories, etc. out of the SL window. Alternately, but similarly, allow one to spit the SL window into word view area and interface element area. Stretch the SL display across both monitors and put the diving line where you get an acceptable result, presumably near the inner edge of one monitor. If I understand correctly the idea of being able to drag the dialogs, etc. out of the SL window, like one can do in Photoshop, is difficult because SL uses OpenGl, which doesn't lend itself to doing that. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Charlie Omega Registered User Join date: 2 Dec 2002 Posts: 755	03-08-2006 21:07 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Then to use two monitors effectively one just makes the SL window stretch across both monitors, and sets the avatar centering point in the middle of one monitor, and positions the dialogs, inventory, etc. on the other monitor. This is not the same as being able to drag the dialogs, inventories, etc. out of the SL window. Trouble with this is not all dual monitor users use the same resolution on each monitor. Like me for example I run my main monitor at 2048x1536, and my 2nd at 1280x1024. 2nd issue is, (and possably the worst) it would unessessarily tax the system of rendering 3D across 2 monitors. Hence my thought years back of docking/undocking various windows "out of" the SL client. _____________________ From: 5oClock Lach With a game based on acquiring money, sex, and material goods, SL has effectively recreated all the negative aspects of the real world. Mega Prim issues and resolution ideas.... http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/10/04/second-life-havok4-beta-preview-temporarily-offline/
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	03-08-2006 21:58 From: Charlie Omega Trouble with this is not all dual monitor users use the same resolution on each monitor. Like me for example I run my main monitor at 2048x1536, and my 2nd at 1280x1024. 2nd issue is, (and possably the worst) it would unessessarily tax the system of rendering 3D across 2 monitors. Hence my thought years back of docking/undocking various windows "out of" the SL client. Well, it would be possible to run SL at the same resoultion on both monitors. That is something you can choose, while getting the SL programming staff to do something either impossible or unprofitably expensive is not something you can choose. With the choices I described, on your high resolution monitor, you could put the world on one side and the dialogs on the other - you wouldn't even really need two monitors with a resolution that high. So one could work for something that is doable, and wouldn't take too awfully much work for the programmers, or one could ask for something that is said to be essentially impossible and has already been rejected. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
KovuDaLion Oddfellow Registered User Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 19	03-13-2006 20:21 As i said before i could live with a dock area OUTSIDE of the game view that allows you to have your utility windows open in that dock area. This could even be set where you can have your gaming area appear on the left or right side which ever is your primary monitor and then put your accessories in the other window. KDL
KovuDaLion Oddfellow Registered User Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 19	03-21-2006 09:31 bump
KovuDaLion Oddfellow Registered User Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 19	04-02-2006 19:19 Sadly it looks like any interest in getting this feature added has waned. There have been no recent addition of votes to the proposition but i still hold out hope that LL will do it.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	04-02-2006 20:39 From: KovuDaLion Oddfellow Sadly it looks like any interest in getting this feature added has waned. There have been no recent addition of votes to the proposition but i still hold out hope that LL will do it. You might be able to generate more support by doing things such as: Include a link to the discussion thread and the voting page url for the proposition and such in your signature. Contact the people who have supported this idea and ask them to do the same. Make some picketing signs and have a fun friendly protest at the welcome area. Be sure to take some pictures of the protest and email them Snapzilla. Get on the #secondlife IRC channel and promote the idea there. Sign up with the forums at sluniverse.com and secondcitizen.com and promote the idea there. Ask your friends and acquaintances in SL to bump the thread. Stuff like that. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Usagi Musashi UM ™® Join date: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 6,083	04-02-2006 23:11 Gesh......lets get current problems fixed first them witth see about these types of features.Until then its a pass
zaire Hansen Registered User Join date: 24 Mar 2006 Posts: 79	04-03-2006 01:01 From: Laukosargas Svarog I'm all for this ! Anything that helps declutter the main window. I always use 2 monitors, I'd use 4 if I could. WOW i have had a pc most of my life but never new you could us to monitors how do you do thi ?
Shadowspawn Soothsayer Registered User Join date: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3	Great idea Kovu 06-06-2006 04:55 Having to move the building window around to see what's behind it, and deal with group chatter, local chatter and other distractions makes building less enjoyable. Clearing the screen, so all you see is what you are building would be fantastic.
Mad Wombat Six Stringz Owner Join date: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 373	06-06-2006 04:58 From: zaire Hansen WOW i have had a pc most of my life but never new you could us to monitors how do you do thi ? You would need a graphics card with two connectors for the monitors. _____________________
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	06-06-2006 05:16 This is an awesome idea. I'm allocating 5 of my votes to this! -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft

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