I still haven't figured out how to distill an achieveable - let alone figure out what it actually means. Has anyone translated it to proper English, like wot I speaks, yet?
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08-12-2006 23:35
I still haven't figured out how to distill an achieveable - let alone figure out what it actually means. Has anyone translated it to proper English, like wot I speaks, yet?
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08-12-2006 23:46
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08-12-2006 23:50
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08-12-2006 23:57
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08-13-2006 00:01
I still haven't figured out how to distill an achieveable - let alone figure out what it actually means. Has anyone translated it to proper English, like wot I speaks, yet? Lewis 'Tis business Lingo dear Lewis. ![]() It means to seperate the wheat from the chaff so to speak. Get the achievable goals seperated from the mess so they can be concentrated on. Wish I could say I already knew that, but it did take a tad of research to find it. It does seem to be quite a popular term in the business realm. _____________________
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08-13-2006 00:02
PR Hint: No Linden should ever refer to any resident communication as "noise." Personally, anyone that mouths off with the tired old line of "LL can't do anything (explicative) right, this sucks." Without backing it up with specifics is creating noise. I'd keep the forums open... but require that all posts relate somehow to SL. Leave RL politics, relgion, and etc out. -- grump grump grump. |
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08-13-2006 00:05
Am I the only one who finds it very strange that of all the threads out here in the 'noise' Robin pings this one and defends herself? More so, why is the VP of LL locking and moderating the forums such as they are? Where are Jeska and Torley? Very strange. I cut this out of a post I made in a different thread, but it applies here as well. I hope you don't mind my cutting and pasting it here. ...with the announcement of the forums being closed the higher level Lindens have been spending more time monitoring the forums in order to gage the general reaction. (I know I would if I was in their position.) So a thread that the resmods might have just let slide for a while was noticed by Robin, and seeing that it was starting to spiral downward she just nipped in bud, so to speak. A perfectly understandable action when you remember that most upper level management people prefer to be proactive instead of reactive.... I feel I should also point out that I ended that particular post by saying I could just be full of crap though. ![]() _____________________
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08-13-2006 00:07
Isnt the big convention this weekend in SF?
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08-13-2006 00:10
Personally, anyone that mouths off with the tired old line of "LL can't do anything (explicative) right, this sucks." Without backing it up with specifics is creating noise. I'd keep the forums open... but require that all posts relate somehow to SL. Leave RL politics, relgion, and etc out. -- grump grump grump. But don't you see, RL politics, religion and etc are a part of Second Life. So any posts about them do relate somehow to Second Life. Second Life isn't just a game, it's an entire world unto itself. So it's going to have all those kinds of issues as well. _____________________
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08-13-2006 00:12
Wish I could say I already knew that, but it did take a tad of research to find it. It does seem to be quite a popular term in the business realm. Google didn't come up with anything. So basically it means concentrating on the things they can control (such as development) and discarding things they can't (such as the residents dissatisfaction of their "management" techniques)? Why not just come out and say that, for the benefit of those of us who live in reality, not a corporation? I see more and more of an 'us and them' coming through ... and that is not good. Lewis _____________________
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08-13-2006 00:18
Google didn't come up with anything. So basically it means concentrating on the things they can control (such as development) and discarding things they can't (such as the residents dissatisfaction of their "management" techniques)? Why not just come out and say that, for the benefit of those of us who live in reality, not a corporation? I see more and more of an 'us and them' coming through ... and that is not good. Lewis No Lewis, that's not what it means. Stop being obtuse. Think about it. The meaning is obvious. “Distilling the achievables” = sifting through all the things that you would like to do, all the things that everyone wants you to do and finding the things that are actually possible to do. Possible as in reasonably possible within the constraints of the system. As in distilling out all the achievable ideas from this huge boiling pot of ideas. It's really not that hard a concept to understand. _____________________
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08-13-2006 00:19
Why not just come out and say that, for the benefit of those of us who live in reality, not a corporation? Big corporations tend to make up buzz words and phrases to make things appear and sound better then they are lol. I spent a long time working for a huge corporation.. the stuff the managers would say made us want to hurl because they get so used to spouting it off to each other they forget we dont all live in the buzz word realm. A guy like Phil likely speaks in many buzzwords to inspire his troops. I went from a part timer to a manager in that corporation I spoke of.. believe me, something changes when you get in with the tie wearers. ![]() _____________________
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08-13-2006 00:38
It's really not that hard a concept to understand. Well evidently I'm not the only one who doesn't understand corporate bullshit. I'm fully aware how upper management like to use meaningless phrases to confuse us lowly workers... but in the end, it only makes them look stupid rather than actually succeeding in getting their point across. I think the difference is not what is possible - but what they want to do. The CEO could quite feasibly clean the toilets, but they don't want to - so they pay someone minimum wage to pick the hairs out of the urinal and scrub out the pan splatter on their behalf. The difference here is that instead of hiring someone to scrub the toilets... they're just locking the door and throwing away the key, and telling people to go somewhere else. Lewis _____________________
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08-13-2006 00:48
Distilled Acheivables =presenting only the things that LL wants you to hear
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08-13-2006 01:21
Distilled Acheivables =presenting only the things that LL wants you to hear .... and hear from us. Lewis _____________________
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08-13-2006 02:14
I LIKE TO ADD TO THIS TOPIC IN MY WAY IF I MAY
![]() For a very long time I like many in the helper groups have "GIVEN" loads of time to helpe those entering the game( NEWBIES). But only to be drummed out of the groups for some very strange and unknown reason. As we like "THROWAWEAY mentors/greeters and live helpers?" Make us rise our level or egos high and shoot us down again? Like some sort of game? Don`t get me wrong many of us that gave over 98% of their Game to to help those in entering the game, to understand and learn the ABC`s of the SECOND LIFE Clients. Its uses and how to get around the problems/greete and help get the right guidance and insdtructor they need to learn to build etc etc etc.......Only to be throwout like a old shoe? Mind you........this was all done for free from me and alot of the very kind and repecful and giving people from the first 10 GREETERS "HATCHED" back in late May 2005. I Was Honored and proud to service in this matter for over a year until some internal drama in the LLabs circles cause me to lose my ranks.....WHY? We are not paid anything to service inthe measure.........We all added our 2 yen wort of building blocks to maked the greeters a better place and the mentors a better system.Did it work? well those say HELL YES others well they know the real anwser. Out of the goodness of our hearts we repected and did what Llabs wanted us to do.Over the course of that say 13 or so money I was preggie gave birth, later on preggie AGAIN.THIS TIME I LOST THE BABY. stressed to the point in my rl that i should QUIT the mentors and greetrs with all the drama and ego minded BS going. But did I no! WHY? because I wanted to still help which I did. But what happened? Well like going to a WALMART or oteh cheap place to get useuable objects or services I was thrown away. Gone........all the time i spent helping othes guiding mentoring etc........GONE those months i gave FOR FREE my game time ( which I can`t get back. GONE all i buildt in ranks to betterthe group. GONE The repect i had for the system which i gave FOR FREE to a compnay that makes money and has stock holders....... But you know.........I would do it al over again because i created alot of good memories and gave new players the help they needed. Would I go back.HELL I WOULD WHY BECAUSE LIKE IN MY REAL LIFE I GIVE TO OTHERS.......I no fake person behind a AVIE in this game..I not a fake person protending to care. I AM REAL....... Jeska Linden If your reading this I don`t lie Unlike some of those inthe ranks that have. Many of us gave our heart and soul to the helpers group and those in need inthis game called SECONDLIFE.......... Thank you for read god bless you and may your God be with you..... Hugs Usagi |
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08-13-2006 02:35
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08-13-2006 02:43
I LIKE TO ADD TO THIS TOPIC IN MY WAY IF I MAY ![]() For a very long time I like many in the helper groups have "GIVEN" loads of time to helpe those entering the game( NEWBIES). But only to be drummed out of the groups for some very strange and unknown reason. As we like "THROWAWEAY mentors/greeters and live helpers?" Make us rise our level or egos high and shoot us down again? Like some sort of game? Don`t get me wrong many of us that gave over 98% of their Game to to help those in entering the game, to understand and learn the ABC`s of the SECOND LIFE Clients. Its uses and how to get around the problems/greete and help get the right guidance and insdtructor they need to learn to build etc etc etc.......Only to be throwout like a old shoe? Mind you........this was all done for free from me and alot of the very kind and repecful and giving people from the first 10 GREETERS "HATCHED" back in late May 2005. I Was Honored and proud to service in this matter for over a year until some internal drama in the LLabs circles cause me to lose my ranks.....WHY? We are not paid anything to service inthe measure.........We all added our 2 yen wort of building blocks to maked the greeters a better place and the mentors a better system.Did it work? well those say HELL YES others well they know the real anwser. Out of the goodness of our hearts we repected and did what Llabs wanted us to do.Over the course of that say 13 or so money I was preggie gave birth, later on preggie AGAIN.THIS TIME I LOST THE BABY. stressed to the point in my rl that i should QUIT the mentors and greetrs with all the drama and ego minded BS going. But did I no! WHY? because I wanted to still help which I did. But what happened? Well like going to a WALMART or oteh cheap place to get useuable objects or services I was thrown away. Gone........all the time i spent helping othes guiding mentoring etc........GONE those months i gave FOR FREE my game time ( which I can`t get back. GONE all i buildt in ranks to betterthe group. GONE The repect i had for the system which i gave FOR FREE to a compnay that makes money and has stock holders....... But you know.........I would do it al over again because i created alot of good memories and gave new players the help they needed. Would I go back.HELL I WOULD WHY BECAUSE LIKE IN MY REAL LIFE I GIVE TO OTHERS.......I no fake person behind a AVIE in this game..I not a fake person protending to care. I AM REAL....... Jeska Linden If your reading this I don`t lie Unlike some of those inthe ranks that have. Many of us gave our heart and soul to the helpers group and those in need inthis game called SECONDLIFE.......... Thank you for read god bless you and may your God be with you..... Hugs Usagi Of course, it had nothing to do with personal attacks masquerading as gibberish. _____________________
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08-13-2006 02:48
I have enough repect for myself and the groups i held NOT to even bother added details to this troll.....
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08-13-2006 02:52
So, troll = anyone who questions your statements.
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08-13-2006 03:25
I have enough repect for myself and the groups i held NOT to even bother added details to this troll..... Welcome to my mute Deleted cos sometimes I regret saying what's on my mind. However, troll does not equal someone who questions your statements. _____________________
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08-13-2006 04:30
"Distilling achievables" is a new term to me but still I understood it immediately without having to look it up.
To distill is to separate a substance from a mixture by boiling it off and condensing the vapor. This is how we get battery water (triple distillation), and all our different grades of petroleum products (fractional distillation). An achievable is something that is possible to do within some predetermined set of factors (like time, money, human resources). To distill an achievable is to extract these feasible efforts from a mixture of ideas. "Remove all lag" is not an achievable, however "reduce lag" is. "Make the client run on lower end computers" is something that can be done however it's out of the scope of the machines LL set out to support. Hence not an achievable. Complaints that have no specifics are not achievables. They contain no targets. Complaints with constructive suggestions on how to correct them are candidate achievables (meaning they might or might not be possible to do). All our funny polls and political debates are not achievables. They are not things for LL to do. Concrete, thought-out suggestions like pocketspace, username system change, well thought out new-prim type suggestions, lag reduction ideas, requests for small increases in prim allocation, land sale protocol changes, anti-grief tools ... these are achievables they're trying to distill. "distilling achievables" is in two words meaning "to look at a pile of thousands of ideas and thoughts, and picking out the ones that can be done within the resource constraints." It means that and no more and no less. _____________________
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08-13-2006 04:47
"Distilling achievables" is a new term to me but still I understood it immediately without having to look it up. Yes, it may be jargonistic, but I think its meaning is easily understood. _____________________
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Vestalia Hadlee
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08-13-2006 09:42
I'm no fan of corporate jargon, but at the end of the day we should remember much of its functionality falls into common usage.
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08-13-2006 11:58
Well, I remain firmly convinced:
Do not refer to your customers as so much "noise," or imply that only a few of them have anything worth hearing. Save that kind of talk for among yourselves. coco _____________________
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