Hush about Stipends and lets discuss...
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Sensual Casanova
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05-23-2006 09:19
From: Cristiano Midnight There are still a very limited number of people receiving it by comparison. $1 million L is nothing compared to the very real $49,000,000L coming from stipends . Other money sources besides dwell were only $4 million for the month - $1 million a week vs $12 million a week for stipends. It makes no difference how many people it is spread out amongst, that money ends up in the general economy. Ok as everyone knows I am not good with putting words into text.. let me try again... There is 4.9 million going out to stipends to over 200k accounts, this is money that is part of thier sign up, those that get $50 a week paid thier due of $9.95 to sign up, lets call this tax, there is the others that get $500 a week who pay thier taxes of $9.95 a month... so all that stipend money is paid from account basic and premium accounts and in some way benefiting LL financially... Now there are instructors... that teach in SL and help the average new player as alot of people do and are getting paid $500 per 30 minutes, limited to 7 times a week or twice a day, thats $3500 a week... Who is more likely to cash out thier $L, someone that was given $3500 a week or someone that paid to get $500 a week?
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Ordinal Malaprop
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05-23-2006 09:23
From: Sensual Casanova Who is more likely to cash out thier $L, someone that was given $3500 a week or someone that paid to get $500 a week? Why does it matter who cashes it out?
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Sensual Casanova
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05-23-2006 09:34
From: Ordinal Malaprop Why does it matter who cashes it out? Because those are the people that determine the value of a $L and why people think that stipends should end... have you been reading the rest of the forums lately?
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Daul Callisto
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05-23-2006 10:37
Do you really honestly think instructors horde their wages to "cash out"? I realize you are not insulting or attacking instructors, however I do think you misunderstand the vast majority of them. For most of the instructors I know, teaching is their *other* profession. Some are dancers, escorts, designers, scriptors etc... We use the money we earn from teaching to fund these passions of ours. Granted, some of the instructors are instructors only, but this only means they spend every L they can uploading textures and sounds and animations for class use. Now, if instructors were greedy and selfish, I could see your theory to be valid, however, it just isn't so. Opting to give up hours of your own time, and money out of your own pocket simply doesn't add up to a personality likely to cash out. I suggest you look towards the people charging 500L for a t-shirt 
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Sensual Casanova
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05-23-2006 13:32
From: Daul Callisto Do you really honestly think instructors horde their wages to "cash out"? I realize you are not insulting or attacking instructors, however I do think you misunderstand the vast majority of them. For most of the instructors I know, teaching is their *other* profession. Some are dancers, escorts, designers, scriptors etc... We use the money we earn from teaching to fund these passions of ours. Granted, some of the instructors are instructors only, but this only means they spend every L they can uploading textures and sounds and animations for class use. Now, if instructors were greedy and selfish, I could see your theory to be valid, however, it just isn't so. Opting to give up hours of your own time, and money out of your own pocket simply doesn't add up to a personality likely to cash out. I suggest you look towards the people charging 500L for a t-shirt  ugh, I give up, still miss my point and I obviously cant find a way to better explain it..
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Cristiano Midnight
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05-23-2006 13:53
From: Sensual Casanova ugh, I give up, still miss my point and I obviously cant find a way to better explain it.. Sensual, I do understand your point. However, cashing out does not take the money out of circulation - the sheer amount of new money being put into the economy is the problem. Also, whether or not the instructors who get the money cash it out directly, or content creators cash out the money they got from the people with stipends spending the money on items, it is the same money and ends up being cashed out. Removing the payouts to instructors for classes would not have any noticeable effect on the value of the L$.
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Nyx Divine
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05-23-2006 14:14
From: Sensual Casanova getting paid $500 per 30 minutes, Actually it's $500L for an hour long class. Except at TeaZers where the 'house' takes $50L, then it's $450L for an hour long class.
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Sensual Casanova
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05-23-2006 14:45
Now I just found this out...
Instructors are paid L$500 per approved class (maximum 2 per day, and no more than 14 per week)
Thats $7000 a week, thats more then some content creators make... mmk I think I need to be an instructor
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Sensual Casanova
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05-23-2006 14:46
From: Nyx Divine Actually it's $500L for an hour long class.
Except at TeaZers where the 'house' takes $50L, then it's $450L for an hour long class. LL only requires 30 mins last I knew and a minimum of 5 attendess.
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Kalley Koala
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05-23-2006 14:50
I ask again... So What? Why spend your time bitching about what others are getting, when you have the same chance to act and receive the same payment?
It's a game.. it's here for your fun.. if you're enjoying what you're doing... then what does it matter what others are up to?
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Sensual Casanova
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05-23-2006 14:55
From: Kalley Koala I ask again... So What? Why spend your time bitching about what others are getting, when you have the same chance to act and receive the same payment?
It's a game.. it's here for your fun.. if you're enjoying what you're doing... then what does it matter what others are up to? Ask all you want, I am not bitching, I am discussing, if you don't like what I feel like discussing ... "It's a game.. it's here for your fun.. if you're enjoying what you're doing... then what does it matter what others are up to?"
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Kalley Koala
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05-23-2006 15:00
*rolls eyes* ok.. let the drama continue.
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Briana Dawson
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05-23-2006 15:00
From: Kalley Koala It's a game..

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Sensual Casanova
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05-23-2006 15:08
From: Kalley Koala *rolls eyes* ok.. let the drama continue. How do you consider any part of this thread drama? I mean seriously...
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Nyx Divine
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05-23-2006 15:28
From: Sensual Casanova LL only requires 30 mins last I knew and a minimum of 5 attendess. THIS I must investigate..... But may I ask when is the 'last you knew'? Because as recently as last week I was paid $500 from a university for a one hour class. And before that I was TOLD at another university that it was $500 per hour. I have not asked a Linden myself however which I shall do.
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Sensual Casanova
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05-23-2006 15:38
From: Nyx Divine THIS I must investigate.....
But may I ask when is the 'last you knew'? Because as recently as last week I was paid $500 from a university for a one hour class. And before that I was TOLD at another university that it was $500 per hour. I have not asked a Linden myself however which I shall do. well maybe that is "thier" rules to allowing you to host at thier university? It has been awhile, so things may have changed?
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Daul Callisto
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05-24-2006 07:15
To clarify... it is 500L$ per class. A class *must* be at least 30 minutes long, and *must* have at least 5 students for 30 minutes. It just happens that most classes are designed to take an hour to teach, and the people teaching them are not greedy enough to schedule them as a 2 part half hour long class 
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Dillon Morenz
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05-27-2006 09:13
From: Sensual Casanova Great points, but I didn't start this thread to insult instructors in any way, nor did I ever say they didn't deserve or earn the payment... I've taken a few Teazers classes this week, and some are indeed worth their weight in gold (much kudos to the tutors), but I can't understand why somebody demonstrating how to attach three flexible prims to a wooden stick (er prim) is on the same wage as somebody teaching the technicalities of Photoshop or LSL... and often finds themself going up to an hour past the scheduled end time. The latter examples are far more complex, difficult to teach, and often result in the tutor multitasking to effectively teach different students working at different speeds. Re: The three flexible prims on a wooden stick. I saw the example, and put one together before the class started. And then I followed the class just to see if I'd done it correctly. I had...and I've only been a SL user for a week, picking up the required knowledge by chance at the **something* Library of the Primitives. (Forget what it's called exactly but I couldn't have spent more than fifteen minutes in there.)
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Palomma Casanova
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05-27-2006 09:48
Next class will be.. "how to camp on a chair"
500L for this class and I will be rich!!
Sorry I am being sarcastic... However yup, teaching is a great career and money maker. 2 classes a day=1000L not bad... doing it everyday, awsome..
Only bad thing you dont get paid quick, you have to do reports and stuff and then wait a week to get paid.
What's more satisfying to me? hmmmm
Ohh if you have 4 students and you need 5, all you have to do is tp someone quick.. that is easy to do....
Dillon, you are right... I think like you too..
Sensual, you just discussing a subject.. good for you! why do people think discussing something that concerns you is drama? I just dont get it either... oh well...
It is just same old SL, get tiring at times... good think WOW still there as an option and other of those killing frustration games hehe
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