No Neg Ratings 'bout Time LL!!!!!

YES!!!!!!!!!

They FINALLY implemented this....I been shouting it since BETA!!!!

No player should have the ability to negatively impact another's game experience without their consent, for ANY reason...ANY. It was a gaping flaw in the overall design.

One day, LL will learn to listen to me without the two year lag.

Let's see....

- get rid of taxes. All of them. Oh Lindens don't like that one. Seems they've been removing my posts when I bring it up.
- Allocate objects by land ownership
- fix the state change event clear thing (they do clear...no they don't...yes they do...no they don't....yes they, oh wait: no they don't).
- Let instructors teach at location of choice.
- Get rid of neg ratings.

Oh there's more but...well, enough for now.

Pretty cool. Glad no individuals were foolish enough to throw away thousands of Linden dollars neg rating hundreds of people.

In the year plus I've been in SL I never negrated one person, not even with my alts.

Pffft! Roight! Obviously! Knot!

Boy. I'd feel like a real moron if I'd done that.

edit: Also, with negging gone, what will people have left to do at the welcome area? I guess there's always stupid sound clips. But surely people would only play those once or twice, right?

um duh lol

Racial, religious, and nationalist bigotry are popular chat topics at the Welcome Area. Also discussions of bestiality, farting, and there seems to be a running contest to see who can repeat the most tired, stale cusswords, that seems to get the regulars going. Insulting new customers remains a popular pasttime.

Woohoo! I can kiss that single neg rating (Some newb was offended by my devil skull hat) of mine goodbye!

Once is a sound clip. Twice is an experience. Thirty times is art.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Since the stated objecive is for SecondLife to be a "social game" or (as often stated) not a game at all but a platform for mimicking or vitualising RL social situations, then this statement is obviously false.

If the objective is a realistic social interaction (or modeling of same), then to have only positive inputs defeats the entire purpose. Even on the most basic level of neg-rating griefers, to not allow negative consequences to an avatar acting like a jerk is certainly not to model RL social situations. Also given that the AR and banning system is fairly broken, to also not have neg-rates is really to remove almost any tools a user has to give negative feedback on this particular social behaviour.

Negatives and negativity an important and vital part of a healthy community and disagreements are a big part of the social fabric. Negative feedback loops are necessary to model situations and to curb behaviours like griefing.

In essence to have no "no's," is to have no mores or social rules, and the absence of such rules is really an absence of civilisation itself. IMO no realistic cohesive community can develop in such a vacuum, just a market dominated free-for-all.

Personaly, I just think it's a shame that a few idiots had to ruin neg-rating for the rest of us. Typically it's these kinds of selfish and self important attitudes from individuals who do not wish to feel any sense of responsibility to their fellow "gamers" that put the most stress the social fabric of a community.

Well said, because those children that don`t pay for their sl game are mainly the ones neg rating people that caused problems.

Yes, and this just gives the Grievers a field day because now we cannot negative rate them so others will know who grievers are

Tcoz, I know it's frustrating sometimes when good ideas are backlogged for what can be even years ... but, it is possible to understand that LL does listen and simply can't do everything at once, and hence needs to prioritize over a variety of issues.

You forgot to add that grievers will now be able to walk into a club and no one will see they have high negative ratings and be alerted that the griever might be a major problem.

I negative rate grievers. Now grievers will be able to slip up on people and have a field day of grieving.

Well, RL is a bit of a social game too, and you can't brand someone with a neg rate for all to see, wherever they go...

Unless we're living in a Nathaniel Hawthorne novel.

People can use word of mouth though, in RL or SL...

Somehow, I made it two whole years in SL without getting a neg rate. Whee, now I can grief with impunity!

gaw dont tease me like that Tcoz whats next!

Your the man!

Now that it's gone it looks kinda empty. I propose we have something to fill the space --- maybe rating for being ordinary and mostly harmless?

I'm silently laughing at several Violet Angels who spent a lot of US$ equivalent in L$ neg rating people. WOOHOO! Jokes on you!

Magnum, neg rating was used as a tool BY many griefers to make people feel bad. I say good riddance! Negs given was the only rating that really meant anything anyway... more negs given, more likely they're a griefer, schmuck, or minor.

Regards,

-Flip

I never negrated anyone, so it's alright by me for LL to get rid of them. My only negrates were from one particular WA griefer who was so obsessivly upset at a certain person, she was negrating anyone whom she suspected to be an alt of said person. My profile contained a word that was part of this hated person's name, so I was smacked with a dillusional 3x negs!

So is rating decay still in effect?

Ditto.

Magnum, are you saying you were actually judging people on their neg ratings? So when you saw people like Flipper or ME coming your way, you would prepare to be griefed because we had a lot of tripple neg ratings? I think maybe you were misinterpreting why the ratings were actually given.

I was neg rated because I informed a clothing creator that somebody was ripping off their textures and selling them. Oh and apparently somebody thought I was a Bolshevik leader opressing the masses like the KGB. So there you have it, a tiny number of people were able to use their alts to create a completely false impression of me for people like you.

Good riddance to neg ratings.

hahah I just neg rated this thread!

Just for fun.

Yep agreed. Now that we have the Yin removed, when can we get Yang taken away too? Without negative ratings acting as the other side of the ratings coin, positive ratings are equally worthless.

If the idea here was to prevent griefing, then this may do the trick. But then again, a surefire way to eliminate griefing in all forms in SL is to just unplug the servers, lock the doors and kick everyone out. Voila - no more griefing.

While I'm in full agreement that negative ratings needed an overhaul, this one is unbalanced and does little except to force the griefing into a different form. Positive ratings mean nothing without negative ratings to compare against, so should've just gotten rid of the who kit-n-kaboodle.

Then again, I've always thought ratings were little more than a popularity contest and were meaningless anyways, so...*shrug* eh. Whatever.


- Newfie