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Solivar Scarborough
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Join date: 8 May 2006
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08-02-2006 18:56
Heyo - I was looking to compile a list of historical themed sims - sims that replicate a REAL past era (no Gor, no elves, no dragons). Preferably not historically themed malls, but they'll do in a pinch.

So, any suggestions?

Cheerio.
Soli
Kamilah Hauptmann
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08-02-2006 19:04
Caledon is.... close? If you don't mind a few blimps and retrotech Victoriana?
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Susie Boffin
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08-02-2006 19:44
You may want to check out my official old time pioneer settlement at Sand 114,55. I know it's not a sim but it's better than nothing.
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Baba Yamamoto
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08-03-2006 02:38
That would be pretty cool Solivar!

I would reccomend using the History Wiki to publish the list. It was designed for exactly what you suggest. Compiling facts and historical information about Second Life. There is already a pretty complete list of simulators, so if you wanted to add a category to each one that states it's historically themed that would be of great value.
http://history.secondserver.net/index.php/Main_Page

An example of how a category works can be found at

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Category
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Desmond Shang
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08-03-2006 07:13
Steelhead is one - it's been a while since I've been there, but it is based on the 19th c. western United States.

Also, there were some sims based upon feudal Japan - are they still out there?

I'm eager to see how this list fills out.
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Elgyfu Wishbringer
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Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 659
08-03-2006 07:36
I have just started a big Medieval village in Fujin. There is a Victorian extension (obviuosly the Victorians liked the location and just HAD to leave their mark!).

I have the main structures in place and am now working on making the little details. I am trying to maintain a 15th/16th atmosphere, taking into account the limitations of cameras (ceiling heights in cottages, lol) and my abililty to build (suspect at best).

Until a few months ago Fujin was covered in The Temple of Hathor, a huge Egyptian temple, built by Terramis Sojourner, and with a lot of effort put into authenticity. Unfortunately this had to come down. However....

I have just bought the land, and started construction, on a new Egyptian temple complex. Again, I am aiming for authenticity - Egyptian, not Las Vegas, if you see what I mean. But also using enough artistic licence to keep the site full of interest and actually make able.

*crosses her fingers and does indeed realise that she is a glutton for punishment*
Dennis Bertone
Whitewater Nutcase
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 164
08-03-2006 08:29
Not sure if it fits....but Nohona and Wailele isles are both Polynesian themed sims. I've been told that they are some of the best true to theme sims out there.
Ceera Murakami
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08-03-2006 09:23
Why thank you for that complement on my sim building work, Dennis! (bows)

There was a lovely Japanese-themed sim for a while. It was intended to be strictly Human, and was very well done. New Holstice, I believe was the name of the sim. (Haven't verified that). But the last time I went there to shop for a Kimono, it was being re-built as something completely different. I triple-checked the landmark, and was sure that I hadn't been redirected to some nearby sim. Whatever happened, the lovely historical Japanese sim was no more.
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Viola Bentham
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08-03-2006 10:17
From: Solivar Scarborough
Heyo - I was looking to compile a list of historical themed sims - sims that replicate a REAL past era (no Gor, no elves, no dragons). Preferably not historically themed malls, but they'll do in a pinch.

So, any suggestions?

Cheerio.
Soli


Soli, it's so funny you suggested this. Just the other day I was wondering if someone could do a colonial Philadelphia-themed sim. Born & bred in Philly, this is something I would love to see come to fruition.

What think thee of that?
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Vivianne Draper
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08-03-2006 10:29
Free Tibet is a replica of a tibetan monestary complete with sand mandalas and the history of such mandalas.

Hollywood isn't a historical sim per se but it does have the Chinese theatre, the Hollywood Bowl, the Hollywood sign, a beatuiful video called the casablanca experience (in which you pretty much get a sense of what the movie is about), as well as a hollywood star walk with all the oscar winners displayed for like the last 20 years. There's also displays of movies, voted by residents, that have posters, sound clips, etc.

Nakama is an anime sim but its broken into feudal, cartoon, buisness, etc.

Rennaissance Faire sim has a replica of a cornish castle with notecards telling you the history and the like.

There is a victorian sim (caledonia? maybe?) which isn't exactly historical but does give you the flavor of victorian england.

At one time there was a build (not a sim and kind of on the smallish side) that had an egyptian archeological dig and you coudl dig for stuff and find it. I forget the name of it though. You'd have to search.

There's Amsterdam of course. It looks like Amsterdam if you think that Amsterdam is a giant shopping mall with canals. Actually I have never been to Amsterdam for real but I understand the sim is a good replica.

There is a Venice build -- not a sim. I believe it is historical in nature.
Sam Brewster
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08-03-2006 10:56
From: Viola Bentham
Soli, it's so funny you suggested this. Just the other day I was wondering if someone could do a colonial Philadelphia-themed sim. Born & bred in Philly, this is something I would love to see come to fruition.

What think thee of that?


I'm somewhat of history buff, and love the pre-revolutionary American era. Last year we went to Colonial Williamsburg in Virigna, and would love to do a replica of it.

For those who have never been to Williamsburg, it's a restored, living museum colonial era town, about 9 city blocks with original buildings, businesses, homes, etc. Actors re-enact colonial era life. There are cobblers, inn-keepers, shop owners, even a fife a drum corps that march down the street a few times a day.

Unforunately, I have neither the time nor resources to devote to such an ambitious project. But would love to see this.

For those of you that are intersted, here's the official webite: http://www.colonialwilliamsburg.com/

Sam
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Solivar Scarborough
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Join date: 8 May 2006
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08-03-2006 11:21
From: Viola Bentham
Soli, it's so funny you suggested this. Just the other day I was wondering if someone could do a colonial Philadelphia-themed sim. Born & bred in Philly, this is something I would love to see come to fruition.

What think thee of that?


I think it's a smashing idea - though I'm a second generation californian, I have two ancestors who signed the DoI, so a historical Philly sim would be great for me. Add an emphasis on the the philosophies and conflicts that went into the historic events that blossomed (and in some cases withered over the years), and that would be an awsome sim!
Solivar Scarborough
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Join date: 8 May 2006
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08-03-2006 11:23
From: Sam Brewster
I'm somewhat of history buff, and love the pre-revolutionary American era. Last year we went to Colonial Williamsburg in Virigna, and would love to do a replica of it.

For those who have never been to Williamsburg, it's a restored, living museum colonial era town, about 9 city blocks with original buildings, businesses, homes, etc. Actors re-enact colonial era life. There are cobblers, inn-keepers, shop owners, even a fife a drum corps that march down the street a few times a day.

Unforunately, I have neither the time nor resources to devote to such an ambitious project. But would love to see this.

For those of you that are intersted, here's the official webite: http://www.colonialwilliamsburg.com/

Sam


My father was a high school history teacher, so when we took our family "death march" across country (28 states) in the early 70's when I was 12, aside from Pony Express stops, Williamsburg stood out as one of my favorite locations.
Solivar Scarborough
verum peto
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 51
08-03-2006 11:29
From: Baba Yamamoto
That would be pretty cool Solivar!

I would reccomend using the History Wiki to publish the list. It was designed for exactly what you suggest. Compiling facts and historical information about Second Life. There is already a pretty complete list of simulators, so if you wanted to add a category to each one that states it's historically themed that would be of great value.
http://history.secondserver.net/index.php/Main_Page

An example of how a category works can be found at

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Category


Sounds good! I'll look into it.

One of my goals is to use part of one of my lots as a "time machine" - with links to good sims of the past. Maybe throw in some dancepads to trick folks into doing something educational <kidding, but the more I think about it...>
Solivar Scarborough
verum peto
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 51
08-03-2006 11:32
From: Dennis Bertone
Not sure if it fits....but Nohona and Wailele isles are both Polynesian themed sims. I've been told that they are some of the best true to theme sims out there.


Totally fits - having just tied for second in a Tiki building contest, it would be nice to see the real thing done with respect rather than kitzch.
Viola Bentham
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Join date: 22 Feb 2006
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08-03-2006 13:33
From: Solivar Scarborough
I think it's a smashing idea - though I'm a second generation californian, I have two ancestors who signed the DoI,


OMG, did you really? Very cool! Which ones?

From: Solivar Scarborough

so a historical Philly sim would be great for me. Add an emphasis on the the philosophies and conflicts that went into the historic events that blossomed (and in some cases withered over the years), and that would be an awsome sim!


Glad you like the idea, Soli. I was inspired when I saw some of the RFL builds, (parts of South Africa, Paris, etc) as well as places like the Dublin & Italy sims. Had I the talent to actually *build*, I would have done probably what you are planning on doing.

From: Solivar Scarborough

One of my goals is to use part of one of my lots as a "time machine" - with links to good sims of the past.


Yay! A Wayback Machine! That would be AMAZING! I would luv to see recreated "battles", such as what one sees at Colonial Williamsburg, or get a bunch of residents to dress in colonial garb to "sign" the Declaration in a Carpenter's Hall-looking build.

SL has such wonderful potential and is a great outlet for all these wonderfully creative denizens I've had the pleasure to meet since I joined up. So I can't see how historically themed SIMS wouldn't be doable. :-D

(ok I'll shut up now)
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Hypatia Callisto
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Join date: 8 Feb 2006
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08-03-2006 13:41
From: Vivianne Draper

There's Amsterdam of course. It looks like Amsterdam if you think that Amsterdam is a giant shopping mall with canals. Actually I have never been to Amsterdam for real but I understand the sim is a good replica.


you mean it isn't. I dare say, it is in real life, all the way to the buyable women on the street! :P
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Hypatia Callisto
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08-03-2006 13:52
From: Hypatia Callisto
you mean it isn't. I dare say, it is in real life, all the way to the buyable women on the street! :P


oh, wait, the buyable women are really women in Amsterdam... well, just more reason to go visit. :P

oh wait, the buyable women in the gay section of town are harder to tell if they're women or not. Oh that's even more like SL :P

Art imitates life, indeed :)

I love Amsterdam and everything about it, IRL, its worth a see. I had a blast there.
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Aldo Stern
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Join date: 15 Jan 2005
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08-03-2006 13:59
I recently saw a reference to "Nova Colona" which i gather is going to have an ancient Roman theme.

For you guys thinking about old Philly, there was an analagous situation a few years that was Edwardian London--had a great pub and a sewer system that you could get into (there were Bobby uniforms and criminal outfits available for free so you could RP chasing after each other through the streets and sewers).

it's not full sims, but there are some awful good builds out in the wild that deserve looking at--there is a builder with some very good ancient Egyptian pre-fabs (correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it White Star or something like that?) and Juro Kathari has an exceptional castle that he's been working on for many moons.
Solivar Scarborough
verum peto
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 51
08-03-2006 15:15
From: Aldo Stern
I recently saw a reference to "Nova Colona" which i gather is going to have an ancient Roman theme.

For you guys thinking about old Philly, there was an analagous situation a few years that was Edwardian London--had a great pub and a sewer system that you could get into (there were Bobby uniforms and criminal outfits available for free so you could RP chasing after each other through the streets and sewers).

it's not full sims, but there are some awful good builds out in the wild that deserve looking at--there is a builder with some very good ancient Egyptian pre-fabs (correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it White Star or something like that?) and Juro Kathari has an exceptional castle that he's been working on for many moons.



Well I'm gonna evalute place by place. Doesn't have to be a whole region; a single dwelling, if it's amazing enough (and doesn't butt up against a strip club), will do.

Unless it's a historical strip club...
Steelwolf Pascal
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Join date: 7 Jul 2005
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More History
08-03-2006 16:07
I would Like to thank Desmond for including Steelhead in the list, *Tips Hat*
I have built Steelhead an a port town on the Oregon Territory coast in the year 1857, and although there have been a few accomodations for it being SL I have tried to stay to theme. Having been raised in a family of loggers and millwrights on the Oregon coast in real, and coming from an actual pioneering family I have the real historical backing to aid me in this venture.
Am also presently setting up a slice of Chicago around the 1930's-40's and recently completed a space station from the year 2077....Oooops, you folks wouldn't know about that one yet............
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Exrex Somme
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Tanjumura
08-03-2006 16:45
The Japanese Sim in New Holstice was called Tanjumura. It was lovely, and I miss it, but it is, alas, no more. The sim owner was not making any money and couldn't afford to keep it up so he had to change.
Ceera Murakami
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08-04-2006 10:05
From: Exrex Somme
The Japanese Sim in New Holstice was called Tanjumura. It was lovely, and I miss it, but it is, alas, no more. The sim owner was not making any money and couldn't afford to keep it up so he had to change.

Thought that was likely the case. I visited it once, and it was lovely. But the market was small, as suitable for the village that it represented, and it didn't look like there was enough residential property to support sim costs. Large open fields are lovely, but don't pay for sim expenses. It's a pity. It was a very beautiful sim, and a noble effort.
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Getme Somme
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Another one for the "not sure it qualifies category"
08-05-2006 03:35
The new Provincetown sim is a recreation of real life Provincetown MA. Provincetown MA is one of the oldest towns in America and have tried to maintain the look and feel of that period. Provincetown sim was built to look as close as possible to RL Provincetown and has the same look and feel. Many people who have visited RL Provincetown have told us that they feel right at home in the sim. Please check it out! :D
Solivar Scarborough
verum peto
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 51
Results so far
08-08-2006 10:50
Caledon - I love Caledon, but not sure it quite works (the Steampunk aspect while entertaining for me, does pop the bubble a bit.) Still a gorgeous sim, and deserves to be in everyone's landmarks.

Pioneer Settlement in Sand - very nice, and refreshing to see a barn for livestock instead of ponygirls.

Medieval in Funjin - very nice! good use of space without being straight streets. The victorian era reminds me more of Georgian Bath. Didn't see the egyptian part.

Polynesia - very pretty, but mainly polynesian styled timeshares - more a modern resort, than tribal polynesia.

Free Tibet - nicely educational, but again, a little too modern looking.

Rome Nova Colona - haven't checked it out yet, but have seen a few roman builds so maybe betwen them all...

Steelhead - wants a little more wear and tear, but still a good solid build. Goes right on the list.

Provincetown - haven't visited yet.

Amsterdam - didn''t stay long - nice build but too modern
Hollywood - god no! Sorry, but I used to live in Hwood, and still work there. It's fun and all, but not quite there. Now if it recreated like hwood in the 30's/40's - with shwabs and the brown derby, that might be something.

Nakama - I do love Nakama, but it's a maybe - the feudal district is pretty, but very empty at present.

Renn Faire - haven't been yet - sounds promising, but it's gonna have to go a good distance to beat out Funjin.

Venice - gonna need some more info - the only venices I've seen are a shopping district that's very vegas, and venice beach, where I first lived when I moved down to this pestilential hellhole LA from my beloved Bay Area.

Did find a very pretty Shogunate Shrine, and nearby what looked like the Temple of the Sun from Chichen Itza (until I went inside and ended up in a maze of lesbian pictures?). I Recall seeing a Pompei build near the Sci Fi Museum, but it was private at the time. And I have no idea if it's the Holstice one folks are talking about, but I did some shopping in a gorgeous japanese mountain city build a month or so ago. Also was taken by Dickens - victorian era little Londonesque shopping district. Anyone know what happened to the old west town built for the video shoot?

So, come on folks lay it on me - there's gotta be more historical sims out there... chime in!
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