Griefers Cubes With A Side Order Of Will Smith

No. This is a terrible idea.

I was only hit twice before I hopped on my nonphys vehicle, and there are 2 cuplrits. Just the other day I was present in Goguen when Kenny Linden showed up and dealt with the problem.

It happened in other sandboxes prior to Goguen attack however, first time I witnessed it was Sandbox Island.

Even without push restrictions i always wear my sheild. I'm protected against pushes of this sort. Infact as soon as the grids back up i'm gona edit my shield so when someone does this to me it hurls the cube back at them double the speed.

True, but :
1. Its not easy to build a Group of 10 dumbass Griefers, most are alone.
2. This can be Automated, too - the same 10 (newbie)
People AR'ing (more than 1) older Citizen ?
a Program can have some common sense built in, too.

Dude A: "Hey. I don't like <insert name here>. Let's make up a sob story to get people motivated to AR this guy for a ban. We only need 10 people. Shouldn't be to difficult."

Dude B: "Oh, how convenient - I just so happen to have ties with <insert large social group title here>."

Dude A: "Wow, really? Well, now that you mention it, there are some others that have been '<insert aforementioned sob story>ing' me, lol."



Yeah... not really a good idea. The whole griefing ordeal already has enough to deal with. :)

I got hit with 2 of these on Monday and reported it. Wish Linden would do something about it.

Noo bad! Then 10 people who hate one person could easily get him removed.

me too - 700 meters up in my sky box. Ruined a "tender" moment.......

This is already possible, sending an AR based on Lies.
Well, sending false ARs is a serios TOS violation,
so if the case gets investigated by a Linden
(there should be logfiles, dont forget that)
it will not work.
Do you know a better way do get rid of Griefers _quick_ ?
All i get is Automated Emails from LL, but it takes a few Days.
A Griefer (and Everybody else) can create a new Account in 5 Minutes or less.
Fast Response on ARs is the only way to make the Griefers give up.

What is SL now ? a nice Playground for Griefers.

Cause some trouble, insult a few people - nothing happens.
Maybe a few Days later, the Account is Banned (if ever).
So make a new one and Play the same 'Game' again.
It's way too easy now.

If you can afford it I use pay to hire groups (Like U.S. Black Ops) when necessary and they work with lindens and do covert ops to get the issue resolved (basically they just do the work for you, all you have to do is an initial AR report and they do rest). I keep most of my properties damage so ocassionally i get a griefer and i use these organizations to get any griefer issues resolved. Overall i have a rather low griefer occurances.

That reminds me somehow of the Virus->Antivirus Problem

You're not going to like this one bit.

There's only one real way to solve the griefer problem (and admittedly, it only solves it about 99.9%).

No more free package. Everyone has to pay for a premium account.

Told you you wouldn't like it.

There are other groups who help with these issues that don't charge money - the Green Lantern Core, the Justice League, the SLPD, and several others. They also work with the Lindens, and you don't have to worry about their true motivations, because they don't do it for a profit. With mercenaries, you always to think about what would happen if somebody else paid them more than you do, or that they might be fomenting griefer activity in order to profit from it (not common, but not unheard of either).

In my experience, much less than 99.9% solution. I came from an MMORPG where everyone pays for their accounts, and it's got tons and tons of griefers. I honestly don't believe taking away free accounts would solve the problem.

There will always be dickheads, freebie or not.

Anyone who cages, harrasses, follows, stalks, etc is a greifer. Every description of the SLPD I've seen where it was said how they dealt with greifers only showed them as greifers to me.

i've been hit by the cubes too . didn't check to see who made them or anything else because i was too busy getting away from them.

Nice idea; unenforceable implementation. Kick/bans should never be in the hands of the people in this manner, with the exception of their own property (ie. land).

Furthermore, it's very easy to just start ten alts, or (getting into more nefarious terms now), get ten unique IPs/hardware profiles with bots. Not that that's happened. Yet.

One major gripe that the Lindens have yet to solve is the ability to ban objects and object actions crossing onto land. I suspect that will happen eventually because of all this.


Nice nod to noob comic, by the way.

You might be right on that one - I have to admit I've heard mixed things about that particular group. It's funny, that, because some of the things I've heard about them are wildly contradicatory, leading me to believe that much of what's said about the SLPD may not be quite true. Those members I've been in contact with seem to know that griefer's tactics makes you as bad as the griefers, but I certainly haven't met all of them.

I don't know if it's the same box, but around 6pm SLT i was in a vacant sim training. When these strange multi-colored flashing boxes appeared from nowhere in front of me.
Note: No dots other than me were on the mini-map and my personal radar showed no one else in the sim.

These flashing boxes began to replicate in a somewhat straight line heading towards me.
They me hit, but failed to do anything (movelock). I tp'd out then tp'd back. When i got back, the replicants were gone... leaving only the original boxes that had appeared. No music was playing from these boxes. The name on the cubes wasn't any of the names mentioned here

I ran into this guy and he insulted one of my aquaintaces he said this,"Dan I tried to make my avi as gay as possible but man you really out did me!". Everybody around laughed and sent he guy flying across the sim with a no push attack and then all of a sudden here comes the fresh prince boxes flying around and knocking people everywhere!

A couple weeks ago I came across one of that group's officers playing with guns and explosives in a weapons-free sandbox. It was very obvious he wasn't on a "case". He was the same guy who had told me that they're not griefers and gave me a lecture about following rules when I was a newbie (I met them after getting some land that is near their headquarters...I was actually a member of their group for about a week). After hearing some things from friends and then witnessing an officer breaking the rules, yeah, I agree they're a (low-level) griefer group.

There's also the fact that they've come under vastly different management since their previous incarnation, with a much more mature commander, and one of the strictest screening processes of any SL group I've ever heard of. It takes about 2-3 weeks to become a full member, including interviews, background checks, training, and a closely monitored probationary period (following the new recruits undercover to see how they behave).

And if you do see an SLPD member misbehaving, contact Raavi Mann about it. Letting people like that continue their antics doesn't do anyone any good.

Sounds like they've been working very hard to clean up their act.

I was hit on Wednesday, 8/23. I was in my apartment and was afk at the time when the cube became active. I was not pushed by the cube, but it made it imposible to walk until I TP'd and lost the object. I am not sure how the object was attached to me but it was annoying as all hell.

Sounds like a follow-pet script put into a big cube. Script kiddy work.