What is Av sex?

I have seen it referred to in the forums and I assume it has to do with 2 avatars having sex in Second Life. My question is does "Av sex" mean that a real person is doing it with a NPC or perhaps twp NPCs are going at it with no real person involved?

To call it Av sex is a bit confusing as I think that all avatars in Second Life are real people. Why not call talking Av talking? Why not call two people dancing Av dancing?

I guess my real question is why is the Av put on when people are referring to sex and not all of the other SL activities.

Do I know what I am talking about?

Pixelslapping.

Avatar sex as opposed to "what's your address? Let's meet IRL."



And in response to your final question: no, I don't think so.

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I've never heard it called "AV sex". Just "sex". Or maybe "cybersex", but since the default assumption is you are talking about SL when in-game just "sex" is good enough. Or "yiffing", but that's a bit more specific.

Yiffing is not specific, it's just a synonym used by furries and some others who aren't quite ready to put on fur, ears, and a tail. And not all furries use the term yiffing either. But yeah, I've never heard of "av sex" before. Just plain ol' sex, yiffing, pixel slapping, animation grinding, digipr0nz...

cybersex and av sex can be different. As your av's can make the nasty without texting (cybersex being text based sex). Because of the limits of animations, many find cybering a good way to augment av sex.

It's called Av Sex or Avatar Sex when the avatars are actively engaging in a sexual animation that in RL would actually be REAL SEX. Whether or not the people behind those avatars are actually participating physically has no bearing on the term (That would be Cybersex if they were.)

So if two people are actually typing their sexual activity, then that would be a form of cybersex. If their avatars are doin' the wild thing (sex animation) then it's avatar sex. So you can do both at the same time.

Sit down children, and I'll begin. Now when two people really like one another in real life, and they want to get married or have babies, they have sexual intercourse. Generally, they have to be in the same room to do this. It isn't essential, especially if one is what we call a "voyeur" and the other is an "exhibitionist" (look it up in the dictionary, Fred). Generally, though, if you want to have babies, you have to be in the same room, and parts of your bodies have to touch. No, you aren't going to be sick Catherine. That's called sex. In most places you can have sex when you are 16. That's called the age of consent.

Along came the internet and people discovered "cybersex". Write that down in your notebooks, children. Cybersex is when two people engage in a sexual conversation on the internet, in chat or voice. Now...you know that sometimes you touch yourself and teacher says "not here George! put it away!" or words to that effect? Well...sometimes the people who enjoy cybersex do that.... Well that's what cybersex is. The rules are very different about who can have cybersex in different places, so I recommend that you check the local laws before you start. Oh and it may be a good idea to ask your parents before you do this, whatever the rules are. You may have to explain very carefully.

Now those people who made Secondlife, originally made avatars which looked like Ken and Barbie, and gave them nothing more lively than a motorbike riding animation. The creative folks who go into Secondlife, soon made attachments that made their avatars into real men and women, and they used the moterbike animation in 100 different ways to allow avatars to simulate sex.

Once animations could be uploaded, they made lots of things to echo what men and women enjoy doing in real life. Yes, Johnny, you will have to wait until you're 18 to find out what I am talking about...sit up straight. Yes, that's right. You can probably have sex in real life at 16, but you won't be able to do it as an avatar until you reach 18. Yes, I agree, it IS stupid.

This was a whole new world of possibilities, including animations which play straight from the inventory, animations in attachments, animations in beds and furniture, and the ubiquitous pose ball. If you don't know what ubiquitous means, Florence, look it up in the dictionary...yes, we'll wait. Put it away, George!

Now there was the possibility of avatars having sex. To distinguish it from real sex, people put AV in front. Remember that, sex is two people in RL having sex, AV sex is two avatars having sex. Some people add in attachments which interact. When this happens, it is possible for two avatars to have sex without saying a word. Their genitals talk for them. The conversation isn't much good, and it is weird having your penis talk for you...or your bottom...or your hair...or your lips...or your nipples.

Some people add in cybersex...in this case there is AV sex and some cybersex involved, but the difference is that the people are not likely to be in the same place in RL, so this still doesn't count as real sex, or just "sex" even though there may be a similar outcome in RL to RL sex. If you don't know what I mean, Isabel, you probably aren't old enough to know about it.

So, there you have it. Sex lessons in the 21 century. Wasn't that fun? What do you mean your avatar won't do THAT, Mary? How do you know you don't like it, until you try it? Yes, Johnny, you DO have to wait until you're 18, sorry. You can join the army, kill people with real vehicles, make your girlfriend pregnant, but you can't get into second life and bump avatars until you're 18.....
Miss Cali to you, boy!

Ah, you've made me go all nostalgic for dear old Joyce.

I never thought of it before, but I see what you're saying, Susan... it's an issue of classification... and how if we don't degrade people talking online by labeling conversations with "AV talk" why do we do it so often and so easily with sex in SL. Sorta like when someone tells a story about people watching and includes racial descriptions that don't have anything to do with the content of the story but lets the audience know about status or stereotypes. Language is tricky. :/

You're hot.

Well, there really aren't any "NPC's" in SL, anyway. Every character that you can interact with has a 'Player', a person behind them, somewhere in RL.

The closest thing to doing sex in SL with an NPC would, I suppose, be having your avatar mate with one of your own alts, by being logged on from two instances of SL at once. There, it's only one RL person watching and directing both sides of the show. Cyber-masterbation.

If you put scripted goodies on at least one of your alts, and use the right kinds of pose balls, you could probably get that alt to respond to another of your logins as sort of an NPC, I suppose. Letting the pose ball and scripts do the work for one side. But frankly, it would be a patheticly shallow interaction. Mostly only good for taking sexy snapshots, IMHO.

A/S/L ?

Pixelslapping is by far the best term I have heard in a long time.

I think I'll take that one with me.

Let's look at the fine gradations present in our virtual paradise:

First, unlike the real world, you could spend the evening wooing your amor and then, the moment you get into bed realize that you forgot to align the poseballs. "Um, honey, you're boinking my ribcage" Fortunately, eyes do not really get poked out in SL and if they did new ones will run you $10 to $20L per pair.

The good thing is that there are no bodily fluids exchanged in AvSex, thus eliminating the possibility of pregnancy or disease. The bad news is that there are no bodily fluids exchanged -- particle effects just don't have the same visceral impact on the experience.

Then, of course, if you have a romantic encounter with a newbie they're not liable to own any of the custom equipment yet. The male ego can suffer a horrible blow if, upon dropping trou they realize they're built like Ken (ironically, men spend their SL lives trying not to look like Ken while so many females try very hard to look like Barbie). If you find one of the simple, non-scripted male genitalia available for free most of them haven't been set to attach correctly. "Baby, that feels really good but why is your penis on your arm?"

There is also a social stratification occurring in SL, behind the scenes. There are the newbies, who shall always be their own strata (but who move up quickly for the most part); there are also the old-schoolers who remember emoting in IRC and who prefer to do their cybering by hand. These are the last artistes, the holdouts to cybersex as a finely-honed craft. You'll know them because they can describe the track of every last drop of sweat down a bare thigh.

And finally, there are the nouveau sexuel Xciters -- the Xcite attachments take all the worry out of being close, allowing you to cyber at the click of a button and even add pre-scripted sound files to your moans and groans. Alas, the younger generation of cyberwhores will never know the joys of learning 42 different synonyms for "thrust" or "wet". They will forever be handicapped by the very machines they rely upon. We must not judge them, for they know not what they do. Besides, clicking on an Xcite HUD is a lot easier when you're only typing with one hand.

NPC's In SL? Having Seckz? ZOMG!

"Av sex" is short for "avuncular sex" like "prim" is short for "primative".

Avuncular sex is sex with your uncle. Depending on your gender this could mean homosexual incest in SL, and if your uncle is a tweedle-beetle in SL it is called a tweedle-beetle uncle yiffing, and if you yiff in a bottle with your tweedle-beetle uncle and the bottle's on a poodle and the poodle is eating noodles, it is called "Siggy".

Wait until the media hear about this!

I Love It! LMAO

That might be the funniest thing I've ever read here!

I'm Superstar Christie! Barbie's token Black friend!

mmmmm donuts.... *gargles and drools like Homer*

Thanks, but it's not nearly as funny as this over in OT:

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My side now officially hurts

well Xcite is interesting. But it would fall under the catagory of bad cybersex used alone i think. The mechanics are all there but it lacks any flair.

Now then Ive had lovers (well .. they werent invited back...) who would have actually been better if they had only xcite to play with. So Xcite would definitely be for them.

I beleive this was touched on when we talked about voice chat in SL - in a text based world
I think"attractive" is someone who communicates well pays attention and has a good imagination (not to mention half decent grammar and half decent typing speed)

Now there is an advantage in being excite equiped though. Someone you are freindly with flirting with you by clicking your bottom while dance (on discrite mode, etc) can be nice. And the occasional clicks and sounds can be enjoyable - when its with soemone who knows what they are doing, of course (see above).

Just like real sex , some people are bad at cyber sex. Some are even bad at animations. These would be the truly sad ones.

To the original poster - no there are not (yet?) NPCs in Second life , really. So its hard to have sex with them. There are NPCs you can have sex with in some rpgs , like fallout 2 (actually in that game you could be a virtual strumpet of the wasteland - those who have played the game will know what i mean) - but those are just fade to black situations.

In sociliotron however its spelled you can have Av sex with npcs of course it is reminicent of clicking only xcite sex. And kind of sad to boot.

to Caliandris Pendragon - hehe brilliant essay on av/cyber/rl sex

Agreeing with Cindy - yes I think the lining up of sexual animations can be seriously BAD. I use that for an adjective thats nicer than "wow - who set these up someone whose never actually had sex?" And im refering to two aves of genders who match the colors of the balls they sit on (same sex adapatations its trickier of course.)
My personal opinion is Amoung the reasons so many female avatars have such large bottoms is becuase it minimizes things poking out of places they shouldnt.

I'm still waiting for someone to offer to show her how it's done.



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All of this is pretty cool but why is sex in SL referred to av and pixel sex? I don't see building referred to as av and pixel building along with all of the numerous other activities we engage in.

Sex in SL is nothing more than doing something that most (some? many? a few?) of us do but it seems that when it comes to sex the pixels become more or less important depending on the viewpoint of the person discussing it in the forums.

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