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SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

12-12-2005 10:20

From: Val Fardel

I've talked with the Lindens about starting a sim offering tutoring to minor students similar to RL Silvan Learning Centers. It will exist in Teen World and all adults will have to get background checks and permissions to enter Teen World.

I've had two major concerns about RL business in SL:

1. How griefers that attempt to bring down the grid are handled and
2. What will be done about the absolutely horrible lag and time dilation lately.

The first concern was answered when LL decided to pursue criminal prosecution against those attacking the grid. The second concern I haven't seen addressed adequetly yet.

A third concern is the lack of a good way of importing written content in a dynamic way. Being able to write notecards would go a long way in this respect.

Wouldn't there be more effective ways to create a tutoring group on the internet, such as a Yahoo group? This would allow for voice chat, give everyone an email address to use for group communications, create a forum for the group, allow everyone to use an online calendar , give them an online notepad , allow for video chat, and it would work on dialup and satellite connections.

If Yahoo wouldn't be suitable, I'll bet there are a number of systems available that would be more productive for online tutoring than Second Life would be.

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I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to

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William Withnail

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Join date: 11 Sep 2004

Posts: 154

12-15-2005 16:14

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Wouldn't there be more effective ways to create a tutoring group on the internet, such as a Yahoo group? This would allow for voice chat, give everyone an email address to use for group communications, create a forum for the group, allow everyone to use an online calendar , give them an online notepad , allow for video chat, and it would work on dialup and satellite connections.

If Yahoo wouldn't be suitable, I'll bet there are a number of systems available that would be more productive for online tutoring than Second Life would be.

That's true, but it's entirely disappointing.
Current "community" sites like Yahoo Groups and MSN Communities fail to convey presence and attention the way a fully realized virtual world does.

Chatting with avatars sitting around in a circle is so much more visceral than entering text into a record in a database.

The instructor can also reasonably gauge attention by observing where students are looking. Sure, it's a poor substitute for body language, but it's far better than web-based discussions.

Of course, current virtual worlds fail to provide any decent tools for collaboration. I'd like to see this greatly improved.

Siggy Romulus

DILLIGAF

Join date: 22 Sep 2003

Posts: 5,711

12-15-2005 17:38

Well in a rounds about way SL does help my RL work.

It keeps me sane.

I probably would have bust a braincell and gone into a rubber jacket a year ago if not for having a place I can go - blow things up - blow off steam - rant - rage - and of course make the occasional dumb item.

Siggy.

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William Withnail

Gentleman Adventurer

Join date: 11 Sep 2004

Posts: 154

Discussion: Project Management for Virtual Teams

12-19-2005 16:47

http://secondlife.com/events/event.php?id=126447

Discussion: Project Management for Virtual Teams
Date: Monday, December 19, 2005
Time: 7:00PM - 9:00PM (120 minutes)
Location: Clear (86,152,107)
Host: William Withnail
Category: Education
Cover Charge? No

Event description: This is a serious discussion about Project Management for Virtual Teams.

How do you manage projects?
How do you allocate tasks?
How do you communicate status?
What risks are inherent in virtual teams?
How do you mitigate those risks?

Target Audience: students, business-people, and hobbyists managing or involved in virtual teams.

Moderated by William Withnail.

Surina Skallagrimson

Queen of Amazon Nations

Join date: 19 Jun 2003

Posts: 941

Presentation in RL

12-20-2005 06:13

On Feb 1st I will be taking part in a series of seminars on the subject "Building Virtual Environments on the Web for Learning and Earning".

The seminars will be in Leicester (England), in the morning at DeMontfort Uni, and in the afternoon at The Depot. Speakers will be a UK based Linden on SL in general and myself on more specific industry related stuff (and I might throw in a little about the ALife projects), someone from Google Earth and someone from AutoDesk.

If anyone can help by providing an in-world audience for the seminars that would be great. I don't foresee any web streaming in-world as I don't know what hardware will be available and there are multiple locations to consider as well. Having an audience in-world would help show the potential of remote partisipation at events and the ability to interact.

If you are able to help out please send me an IM in-world, or reply here.

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Surina Skallagrimson
Queen of Amazon Nation
Rizal Sports Mentor

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Philip Linden: "we are not in the game business."
Adam Savage: "I reject your reality and substitue my own."

William Withnail

Gentleman Adventurer

Join date: 11 Sep 2004

Posts: 154

What time?

12-21-2005 11:01

What time of day (Gametime/PST) will the events be conducted?

RL work in SL
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	12-12-2005 10:20 From: Val Fardel I've talked with the Lindens about starting a sim offering tutoring to minor students similar to RL Silvan Learning Centers. It will exist in Teen World and all adults will have to get background checks and permissions to enter Teen World. I've had two major concerns about RL business in SL: 1. How griefers that attempt to bring down the grid are handled and 2. What will be done about the absolutely horrible lag and time dilation lately. The first concern was answered when LL decided to pursue criminal prosecution against those attacking the grid. The second concern I haven't seen addressed adequetly yet. A third concern is the lack of a good way of importing written content in a dynamic way. Being able to write notecards would go a long way in this respect. Wouldn't there be more effective ways to create a tutoring group on the internet, such as a Yahoo group? This would allow for voice chat, give everyone an email address to use for group communications, create a forum for the group, allow everyone to use an online calendar , give them an online notepad , allow for video chat, and it would work on dialup and satellite connections. If Yahoo wouldn't be suitable, I'll bet there are a number of systems available that would be more productive for online tutoring than Second Life would be. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
William Withnail Gentleman Adventurer Join date: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 154	12-15-2005 16:14 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Wouldn't there be more effective ways to create a tutoring group on the internet, such as a Yahoo group? This would allow for voice chat, give everyone an email address to use for group communications, create a forum for the group, allow everyone to use an online calendar , give them an online notepad , allow for video chat, and it would work on dialup and satellite connections. If Yahoo wouldn't be suitable, I'll bet there are a number of systems available that would be more productive for online tutoring than Second Life would be. That's true, but it's entirely disappointing. Current "community" sites like Yahoo Groups and MSN Communities fail to convey presence and attention the way a fully realized virtual world does. Chatting with avatars sitting around in a circle is so much more visceral than entering text into a record in a database. The instructor can also reasonably gauge attention by observing where students are looking. Sure, it's a poor substitute for body language, but it's far better than web-based discussions. Of course, current virtual worlds fail to provide any decent tools for collaboration. I'd like to see this greatly improved.
Siggy Romulus DILLIGAF Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,711	12-15-2005 17:38 Well in a rounds about way SL does help my RL work. It keeps me sane. I probably would have bust a braincell and gone into a rubber jacket a year ago if not for having a place I can go - blow things up - blow off steam - rant - rage - and of course make the occasional dumb item. Siggy. _____________________ The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals. From: Jesse Linden I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
William Withnail Gentleman Adventurer Join date: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 154	Discussion: Project Management for Virtual Teams 12-19-2005 16:47 http://secondlife.com/events/event.php?id=126447 Discussion: Project Management for Virtual Teams Date: Monday, December 19, 2005 Time: 7:00PM - 9:00PM (120 minutes) Location: Clear (86,152,107) Host: William Withnail Category: Education Cover Charge? No Event description: This is a serious discussion about Project Management for Virtual Teams. How do you manage projects? How do you allocate tasks? How do you communicate status? What risks are inherent in virtual teams? How do you mitigate those risks? Target Audience: students, business-people, and hobbyists managing or involved in virtual teams. Moderated by William Withnail.
Surina Skallagrimson Queen of Amazon Nations Join date: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 941	Presentation in RL 12-20-2005 06:13 On Feb 1st I will be taking part in a series of seminars on the subject "Building Virtual Environments on the Web for Learning and Earning". The seminars will be in Leicester (England), in the morning at DeMontfort Uni, and in the afternoon at The Depot. Speakers will be a UK based Linden on SL in general and myself on more specific industry related stuff (and I might throw in a little about the ALife projects), someone from Google Earth and someone from AutoDesk. If anyone can help by providing an in-world audience for the seminars that would be great. I don't foresee any web streaming in-world as I don't know what hardware will be available and there are multiple locations to consider as well. Having an audience in-world would help show the potential of remote partisipation at events and the ability to interact. If you are able to help out please send me an IM in-world, or reply here. _____________________ -------------------------------------------------------- Surina Skallagrimson Queen of Amazon Nation Rizal Sports Mentor -------------------------------------------------------- Philip Linden: "we are not in the game business." Adam Savage: "I reject your reality and substitue my own."
William Withnail Gentleman Adventurer Join date: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 154	What time? 12-21-2005 11:01 What time of day (Gametime/PST) will the events be conducted?

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