Why are so many people offended?

Why are there so many posts against sex? if anything i believe that SL is a safehaven for sexual minorities (i myself am i furry), and as long as people get their desires out in the open and over with, the it's a good thing because it will not repercuss into RL.
Besides, sex is the most basic human instinct. SL is a lawless area in that regard, so it's only natural that SLers would want to express their deepest desires.

All we have to be sure of is that people don't confuse SL and RL. As long as the barrier stays distinct, then all is fine.

and about escorts: i'm a SL escort, for furs and humans alike. It's a business, and you get respect, with permission to orbit ppl if it gets too bad.

hmm Sex? I love sex... just not in SL! LOL
Although I have nothing against anyone having sex in SL, I just don't fint it vert appealing...

SL has a lot of residents. If you take that into consideration, there are actually not too many people who are offended. The type of person to be really offended is usually the type of person who likes nothing better than to push their morals and their book into your face. They are very good at trolling and causing scenes, so it just seems like there are a lot of them.

Wow, an intelligent forum answer...

AND A FORUM TOPIC THAT STAYED ON TOPIC FOR MORE THAN TWO REPLIES! HOLY SHIZZNORT!

lol

Pretty whacky for a Wednesday, eh?

It totally blows me away personally. Secondlife is just an extension of real life. Most things that can happen in real life can happen in secondlife. If 2 people didn't have sex in real life, you wouldn't be here. So please stfu about banning sex in SL.

Such is life and such is Second Life. Some people arent happy with simply not being involved. They wanna tell you what you should and shouldnt be doing. In RL they watch the TV and they see a horror film where a woman is being brutally murdered. Do they turn the channel? No. They get outraged. Suddenly they wanna take away that horror film from everyone.

Same thing in Second Life. You have everything from your simple romantic relationships to Furry sex, Dolcett, and Ageplay. What an outrage right? Wrong. Nobody is forcing anybody to bang a Kitty Cat looking chick or an Avie that looks and RPs like an 11 year old girl. As long as nobody is getting hurt why cant these people simply move on and go about their day? But some people just cant move on. They wanna live in a fantasy world INSIDE a fantasy world. Its selfish and delusional.

I myself consider some of the things that go on in SL to be a little bizarre but i'll be damned before i try to take away anyone's right to do it. A willing participant is a willing participant no matter how furry, small, childish, or creepy their character is.

My motto is: What happens between willing adults is none of my business, unless they choose to make it so. Then it could become a problem

Your notion that if you do it in a game then it wont 'repercuss' in to RL, is utter hogwash.

If you do it in the game, you're feeding it, and youll be more likely to want too and to do it in reality.

Your notion that Sex is the most basic human instinct, is also nonsensical, although i can see why someone that holds to your first notion about playing our desires in game, and so not in RL, would believe it. A little thought will show you that Breath, Food, Movement, Comfort, Warmth, Company, Sensory Stimulation, Communication. are all far more basic human instincts than sex.

You'll get more in your life of whatever you focus on.

I'm not saying ban sex in SL, far from it, its got its place.

But Role Play with Child Avies!!!

Should be treated as viewing child pornography.

The argument is that they're both consenting adults.

Following this argument throught to its natural next step, does it mean its ok for two adult avies to look at a sexual pictures of a av (cartoon) child. If theyre alone and both consenting, wheres the difference?

what would LL say if second life got filled up with animated child porn films?

However, the person posing as a child is an adult.
An adult is able to make the distinction between reality and fantasy. If they are unable to do so, they should be institutionalized, and receive the proper treatment.
I somehow highly doubt this to be a problem for a large majority of SL users, I'd even go insofar as to say, almost every single one.
Sure, some pedofiles may age-play. Some may also age play in SL. This doesn't mean all age players are pedophiles. Age play is akin to playing school-girl and teacher in the privacy of your bedroom. How many couples have tried this at least once?
Sex is a basic human function, how adults choose to do it is non of your business.

<--------------Loves sex!

Bah! You are ALL perverts! ALL OF YOU I say!!!!

Not everyone has your belief on that barrier, but I suppose you can place a barrier for all of us right, because your so correct in everything?

I never disagreed that sex is a basic human function, i disagreed that sex is THE MOST basic human function. The difference was important only in the prior context of Coalcliffs argument regarding the affect on real life desires enacted through the second life medium and wether or not that would have a bearing on the strenght of those same desires carrried over in to real life. I was basically trying to suggest without being too explicit and therefore rude, that his idea that sex is the most Basic human function, is incorrect and probably the result of his notion that if you fullfill your fantasies in a game they wont spill over into reality.

That said, your idea that age play is akin to playing school girl and teacher in the privacy of your own bedroom, did make me think... i hadn't considered it from that angle before...aren't forums usefull!

However upon reflection, Its not the same at all.

A simple thought experiment will surely make you agree,

If people had the power to change the age of their RL bodies at will, then those teacher/student privacy of your own room games could take on an added dimension comparable to whats possible in SL.

How would you vote on that, would you let people in real life turn themselves into kids to have consenting sex with adults? No of course, surely you would be encouraging unhealthy appetites in people. This activity would of course be severly frowned upon, i think ! , wouldnt it ?, Again Wheres the difference?

And another thing. those student/teacher games are played in the PRIVATE of the bedroom. Nothing about SL is private. Again we ought ot be safeguarding against the spread of these unhealthy appetites and ideas. The bedroom at home doesnt have the same concerns for this as does SL.

The fundamental problem with banning child AV sex is that it's not a child.
An adult with an under-developed body is still an adult, wouldn't you agree? Therefore, an adult who had the capacity to look like a child, would still be an adult. I'm over 18, heck I'm over 21, and I still look like I could be under 18. Does that mean my husband and I shouldn't have sex? Of course not, my physical appearance doesn't make me less of an adult, and less capable of making adult decisions.

Constructive note: This is where I'd love to see the option of not laying down ban lines, but setting the parcel so only people on the allowed, or not on the ban, lists can -see- anything in a parcel. It just won't rez for them, not 'resident' avs, not builds, nothing. Free flight to the citizens, and complete privacy to the residents.

Rebuttal note (Generic but intended with respect): This month on computer, I have mowed down thousands of opponents with blade, blown up a planet, committed genocide of an entire species -three times-, and so far IRL I have murdered exactly zero people.

No matter what rant radio was saying 20 years ago I'm still playing Dungeons and Dragons with the same bunch and still listening to heavy metal music, and still none of us have killed ourselves or joined a cult.

So here's a question, what's worse? Roleplaying murderous mobsters or kiddie molesters? Ban age play because it may lead to molesters acting out or ban guns because it may lead to loonies shooting people? Both?

Some intereswting comments but i can help but thinking that you're distorting the subject and using similies which are irrelavant.

The sexual drives and the aggressive drives in people are not similar enought to draw these comparisons, they are totally different. This mode of thinking is drawn from behaviourist theory that human being are born 'tabula rasa, blank slate' and everything is condidtioned from there. Whilst i think this is fairly close to accurate with regard to our attitudes towadrs aggression and violence. Our sexual hormones are totally different and subject to alot more that just stimulus/response or repetition conditioning.

Also, if you disagree entirely with the above and hold that the two are comparable similies, then i put you the argument that you can find a child in RL alot more easily than you can find a gun.

Hmm yeah, i see what you mean, this area does raise some perplexing questions.

Whether we ever will see eye to eye on this or not, I suggest in return taking your very good, and very well intentioned passion into action. In these forums you're just another soap box among soap boxes and their groupies.

In any group of people I've been in there was always someone with an obvious mental illness or personality disorder going untreated. I suggest you open some sort of information kiosk in world, perhaps look for an existing support group system, like the Depression Support Group. Perhaps some age players, or any people from any subculture in SL have some form of mental illness or personality disorder. Perhaps some of them need help, or someone to talk to. Googling it is all fine and dandy, but if you could organise and gather some people with some sort of counselling background into a small foundation in world there would be one more personal resource for people to anonymously ask for help.

And if there already exists such a foundation, you could always volunteer time or L$ in accordance with your passion for this issue.

Respectfully,

~Kami

*Does a celebratory dance*

So, by this line of thinking.. If a girl wanted to have sex with Gary Coleman, that would be wrong too?

Bouncing arguments around is done with the purpose of arriving finally at an opinion you are comfortable with. Although Ive been stopped dead in my line of reasoning by the very valid point made earlier, I still dont feel entirely comfortable with the opinion im left with.

If anyone knows why maybe they can take the discussion forward.

I think its important we try to do this since with a collaborative effort on sensible serious debate we may be able to arrive at someting worth making policy. The current LL policy seems to be in line with the end result of this discussion thread, (at least where ive ended up) thus offering support for proof of the efficiency of the method. For now though, until someone else inspires me, Ill bow out, withthanks

Offended? If anything you should be amused because people roleplaying sex with barbie and ken dolls is pretty silly.

I'll laugh even harder once someone finally implements TELEDILDONICS though.

There is no sex in Second Life. There are only aging adults recapturing the feeling of looking good in a bikini backshot.