Bring Back Prokofy Neva

No really.

Agreed.

Do we need 20 threads of this? I guess if you repeat a bad idea 1000 times eventually it will seem not so bad.

-Ghoti

It's the 20 odd trolling threads which come off like a collective stfu which have convinced me that all the behavior presented as justification for the banning are very much alive and well. Prokofy is a perfect fit and very much belongs.

Trolling is not the same as being silly. There have always been forum thread parodies... usually only 5 or 10 though SL is getting pretty big I guess... I dont think anyone had any special reason to post silly threads here aside from humor or that there was any coordinated effort.

Oh please. I'm not suggesting a friggin conspiracy theory, don't start that nonsense here.

"There have always be..."? Oh, okay. Nvm then.
Don't forget "Everybody's doing it."

So as long as you put on your best Goofy imitation and say, "Shucks, guys, I was just being silly.", then it isn't trolling? It doesn't bury other threads? It isn't a waste of the moderator's time?

We're not on the same page here. Trolling is not a catch-all term for everything you could possibly do in the forums that would not be approved by Jeska Linden.
Trolling is when you post crap cleverly designed to generate drama, but disguised as a valid post.
Posting random thread parodies does not generate drama threads multiple pages long that draw personal attacks.
Personally, I had a heap of fun reading this forum today. It has been a very positive experience for me. I'm sorry if we have a different sense of humor than you, but none of this was malicious. Trolling is always malicious in intent and usually generates really long drama threads.

Eggy, I post my beliefs on things that are of concern to me.

Even at this date, it is almost invariably surprising to me how wild people go over the posting of simple positions, opinions, or even facts. I can only suppose it is because they fear those ideas.

Certainly I would never waste the time to post a thread designed to create drama, or go to the trouble to "cleverly" disguise any such thread.

You give yourselves far too many airs if you think I talk on here just to get a rise out of you. It is not in my character to do things anywhere to get a rise out of people.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, but you are completely wrong.

I would say it is much more accurate to say that some people here, when reading an opinion they don't agree with, from a person whose standpoint they don't agree with, simply don't have the intellect to believe such an opinion could possibly legitimately exist. Therefore, they have to assume it was a "troll."

If they can decide it's a troll, then they can more easily dismiss the person, and thereby don't even have to contemplate the possibility that theirs might be a legimitate opinion. This means they don't have to consider other opinions, which is, intellectually, much easier.

Since none of what I have ever said elsewhere has ever gotten much of a rise out of people, I have to conclude that it is this environment that is the anomaly, not myself or my ideas.

coco

P.S. Eggy, I am not malicious and have no malicious intent. But I'm starting to think you do, and that my fondness for you has been misplaced.

No one wags a finger as well as you do, Cocoanut.

I'm glad blaze had the foresight to clone the previous thread before it was locked, so it may live on here. gg;nm

Margaret's previous location was Second Thoughts, so her support of Prok is quite understandable.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but you are completely wrong.

Probably the one useful thing Cocoanut has said. I shall have to counter her many arguments with this most convenient mechanism.

I think some people on this thread should check out this one:

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yeah right

Great idea! Definitely some solid background info when discussing someone who obsessively posts thousands of words a week about people she hates.

You're always Johnny on the Spot, champ!

No. Hopefully perma-ban means permanent.

Nothing changes. Forum enmity, once formed is still hot and clutched to his breast. Just four days ago he was denigrating me to a Linden with the old untruths and falsely ascribed motivations, right in front of my face with me saying and having said nothing. I won't bore you with the details except to say be careful of Guy Linden. He summoned Prok out of nowhere to join in a problem I was putting to him at the time. No warning, no nothing. Suddenly, there was my neighbour Prok, descending from the sky. A person I had meticulously avoided contact with for months, not wishing to provoke more spite by reminding him that I was his direct neighbor. Saw me, swung straight into the old insulting verbal action, maligning me to Guy straight off with pure invention. I religiously said nothing but a few harmless indirect platitudes. But the next day I was half-surrounded by more of his old red bars. Four days ago.

I'd like to suggest a new rule for Liaisons. Invite no third party into a two-person discussion without warning/permission. You have no idea what relationships might be involved, or what trouble you may cause.

So nothing changes, or ever will. He knows my three avatar names (and I his). He'd be hunting and harassing me (and others who stood up to him in the past, and lots of new people to belittle) through every thread again in a trice.

You mentioned him, Blaze, not me. You troll, you.

Anyone ever notice the similarity between prokofy and provoke-y. I just saw it. Have I been slow ?

Being as how the subject of discussion was my motivations for my posts, I feel I can say with certainly - and certainly with a great deal more certainty than Eggy or anyone else - that he is completely wrong about my motiviations.

coco

Yeah! I thought that was a rather brilliant first!

coco

I would add to that - summon no resident without warning/permission just to abuse them. (Talking about a different situation from yours, Elle.)

coco

Sorry Coco I didn't stop to think that being accused of trolling would hurt your feelings. To me it is not a big issue, and yeah some amount of trolling can be fun. Stirring the proverbial pot once in a while keeps the forums interesting in the long term.
I edited my post to remove specific names, since after all we arent supposed to name names in the forums

Thank you, Eggy!

coco

I think this threads headed for the same fate as it's identical twin.

while an unpopular opinion, I have to agree he should come back

this is not because I like him, because I have very little patience for being called a dope smoking hippie (actually I like that part) bolshevik every time I disagree with him or being told how stupid the build on my land is

but I don't like the precedent. Bring him back, give him the 3 strikes to play with (give a man enouigh rope...)

if he manages to get forum banned again, he will then become SL banned

so he has to either 1) behave or 2) leave SL for good (which would make many people very happy)

selectively banning a resident from speaking just feels very wrong, even when it is an obnoxious ranting blow hard that is muted

and the ignore button works just fine

and to echo another point, the trolling, insulting, and dramatic behavior continues even with out him here (even if on a lower volume setting), so it looks as if he has been singled out and actually gives weight to the impression of new users that a conspiracy has been carried out to silence him

take him off the cross and let his own behavior sink him. and if he blows it this time, its a perma SL ban

This thread is not appropriate for the SL forums and as such is being closed.