First Land Ideas?
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
Join date: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 377
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08-03-2006 06:38
I had thought I made a good choice when I bought my first land, rectangular and flat.. I just verified its at the edge of the region and my neighbor on that isde is a very large land owner group! They may split it up when they sell it but I doubt it will be 512 blocks!
On the other hand when I set up my house I started off by facing it the other way... lets just say I had to pick up a bunch of items when I rotated it to face my open terrain neighbor..
Just for an additional note.. if you get your first land.. use it, play with it and get a feeling for playing with objects and land rights. I have been learning tons!
On the other hand I am lusting after a beautiful skin by Jungle Voodoo that will have to wait untill I stop buying things for my new house... Sigh.. Zoe has made a work of art.. its time to stop shoping and save a few weeks.
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Lillani Lowell
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Join date: 5 Apr 2006
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08-03-2006 08:10
First Land sims are like liquid.
One day it looks like one thing, the next day it looks like something else.
Land exchanges hands quicker than a hot potato.
New people buy land and the *first* thing they often throw up are generic ban lines as if they were "protecting" something valuable. So, you end up surrounded by a forest of red lettering and have to hover just below cloud level to get from one plot to the next. Like a checkerboard of rude neighbors.
The advice I would give to anyone interested in First Land. Buy it, sell it for whatever you can, and then get out of the sim fast, run like your sanity depended on it, because it more than likely will.
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Snowflake Fairymeadow
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Join date: 21 May 2006
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08-03-2006 09:07
First land is sold at a reduced rate by Governor Linden. So that basically makes it the equivalent of government-assisted housing projects in RL.
Just like in RL, these neighborhoods are likely to go through transitional phases before becoming nice, desirable neighborhoods. It also usually takes a long time for them to stabilize, just like RL urban renewal areas, etc.
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
Join date: 29 Jun 2006
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08-03-2006 09:27
From: Snowflake Fairymeadow Just like in RL, these neighborhoods are likely to go through transitional phases before becoming nice, desirable neighborhoods. It also usually takes a long time for them to stabilize, just like RL urban renewal areas, etc. No small part of that is the new to second life desire to control their environment. I know that first land in a small way has become my sandbox for experiments. Setting up my first house, smoothing land, removing some of the existing vegetation. I work on land rights and learn the tools there in. You should have seen me when I unpacked what everyone else would have known was a very easy house to set up. It appeared up high with a very thick foundation and it took me a bit to get my mind around it. After several hilarious twist and turns I got it placed and then struggled to get it aligned within my property. This morning I went back and like an old pro turned it around and realigned it very quick. (Then I had to take back everything I had put in it because of course they didn’t move) I muted the lotto ball too and am much happier even though the lot next to me has been set up as a shop (I am not even to go look what is being sold) I set my land for sale at 10000L so if someone is desperate for it they can have it. That I think is the reason no one has come and made me a very low offer for it. I am content to play with it and wait
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Jaycatt Nico
Musical Cat
Join date: 1 Jun 2005
Posts: 169
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Definately get First Land though...
08-03-2006 09:31
When I first started, I decided to ignore First Land and picked an expensive spot because of it's location. I didn't realize that the first land you buy doesn't necessarily need to be the plot you keep. You can buy it for the $512, and then in a few weeks or less, turn it around and sell it for even $3000. If I had known better at the time, this is what I would have done, and THEN gone to that plot I had actually wanted and purchased it with my newly earned money 
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Vares Solvang
It's all Relative
Join date: 26 Jan 2005
Posts: 2,235
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08-03-2006 09:34
Personally I don't think 512 m of land is enough to really do anything with. So I think the best use of first land is simply to make some quick money. Buy it for 512 lindens, then immediately put it back up for sale for about 3072 lindens. It should easily sell for that amount and you make a quick profit.
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Renee Roundfield
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Join date: 10 Mar 2006
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08-03-2006 09:41
When I bought first land, I did so with a friend so we had two lots together. I made a swimming hole and had a minimalist treehouse on my lot and she had a very cute cottage on hers and we cooperated with landscaping. It was very cosy. 512 is very tiny without some kind of buffer. I think it was a valuable lesson in prim frugality, too.
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
Join date: 29 Jun 2006
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08-03-2006 09:44
From: Renee Roundfield I think it was a valuable lesson in prim frugality, too. Yes! A friend of mine skipped buying first land and we have learned the much harder way that no matter how many prims you have they get used up!
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Polymorphous Projects
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Join date: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 86
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08-03-2006 13:03
I too have found my First Land a valuable learning experience so far in beginning to work with prims and objects. I learn a consiberable amount just playing around with different tools and observing their effects. Ok, so I did ruin my house and spent 350L on a replacement, but I don't consider that cost so very terrible. Setting up again was so much easier the second time around.  All sorts of different development is going on in my new neighborhood. I tried to help out a neighbor whose house landed in mine last night when she went to set it up, but my newbie advice seemed ineffective, as her land was still empty today. For the most part, I see a lot of others new to SL setting up houses on the land. Athough I started looking at some other porperties on a lark, I decided to hold off on seeling and relocating until I am much more familiar with SL. I don't yet know what a "bad neighborhood" looks like, so I decided to take my chances with the developing neighborhood for the moment.
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Alice Katayama
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Join date: 29 Jun 2006
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08-08-2006 05:23
Watching the properties around me take daily leaps is almost as much entertainment as anything else second life has to offer! I have a neighbor who after a few tries has a house she likes now, but still has the fans from her first try hanging in the air over it. A lot of lots have already been resold. I have my place set up and if I say so myself its cute! it is at Jeju (8,20  if you want to go see (I have gotten used to people looking and am in fact proud of my prim usage) If you do go, give me feedback! (donations to my next projects will also be accepted) 
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Albion DeVaux
DeVoid of DeVotion
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 173
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08-09-2006 03:18
Is it worth waiting for better first land to come available or is it all much of a muchness. None of the first land available right now seems to be near roads. I like the idea of buying and shifting it immediately to build my home/gallery on better land if that's possible.
Albion
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
Join date: 29 Jun 2006
Posts: 377
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08-09-2006 05:56
From: Albion DeVaux Is it worth waiting for better first land to come available or is it all much of a muchness. None of the first land available right now seems to be near roads. I like the idea of buying and shifting it immediately to build my home/gallery on better land if that's possible.
Albion I waited a few weeks and got flat peice of first land on the edge of Jenju, it is so nice I do not want to sell it.. wait until after a weekend do a search when a new block of firstland is available and you can usually find something rectangular and flat (easier to build on) If you tried to go to my little house and couldnt go to http://slurl.com/secondlife/Jeju/8/208 for a link. I also reset security on the house so that it will let people look inside now... just dont muss up the bed or track mud everywhere.
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Quimby Rothschild
Dreamer of dreams
Join date: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 37
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08-09-2006 06:27
I got extremely lucky, more than most I would guess. I was searching for my first plot of land when LL opened a sim for first land purchase. I snatched up my land nearly on the beach. The neighborhood was like most first land neighborhoods...messy. However, the view was great out to the ocean.
I decided to sell the other day and put the land up for sale for 6999L and someone bought it within an hour or so. I then bought an absolutely stunning plot of hillside snow land below two huge mountains bordering protected land. It cost me 2900L. So, I made out like a bandit.
Luck and timing plays a part in these decisions. I'm just happy with the land I have now, so the profit is really secondary to me.
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Albion DeVaux
DeVoid of DeVotion
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 173
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08-09-2006 11:53
Well, I just bought my first land. It's flat and near the road which is what I want I suppose. I intend to put it straight up for sale. I just need to decide on a price. A real estate company have pieces of 1024 land up for 7399 each next door. I was thinking of around 3500.
Albion
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
Join date: 29 Jun 2006
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08-10-2006 10:48
From: Albion DeVaux Well, I just bought my first land. It's flat and near the road which is what I want I suppose. I intend to put it straight up for sale. I just need to decide on a price. A real estate company have pieces of 1024 land up for 7399 each next door. I was thinking of around 3500.
Albion I suggest you play with your first land a little to get some experience, I learned so much in my first two days! Play with some objects put up a free home ect... it can be a blast! I decided once I did that I wanted to keep it!
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Alice Katayama
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First Land Sales
08-15-2006 06:54
It is funny how many real low offers you get for first land, I know it is not worth much but there a lot of people looking to make a killing off guliable first land owners... And to think we do this for fun.. 
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shiney Sprocket
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Join date: 24 Jan 2006
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08-21-2006 18:24
Alice Katayama: Like the place two doors over from you with the giant sign offering to buy land at L$2000 (DONT!) I just sold 3 peices 1 lot over from you for L$4000 each. I could have got more but I thought it would take a few days to sell at that but I woke up to find it snagged.
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LordGrim Oz
Psychotic PC Addict
Join date: 7 Jan 2005
Posts: 85
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08-21-2006 20:54
Think of first land as shack town... that eventually will either become a great city ... or projects
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Albion DeVaux
DeVoid of DeVotion
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 173
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08-22-2006 02:15
I eventually sold mine for L$3000. Glad to be shut of it. And I bought a 1024 parcel roadside in an established commercial area for just under L$10000. It was a tough search though, with only two or three parcels suitable on the market.
Albion
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
Join date: 29 Jun 2006
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08-29-2006 08:23
Well my first land has been sold!
If you go there it isnt my lot anymore, when I bought it I set it for sale at a very high price... When I came back from vacation last week I had a bunch of items in my lost and found, and I had significantly more money!
It was a great experience and I will be just as careful picking my next peice of land.. happy at the way it developed.
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Annah Zamboni
Banannah Annah
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08-29-2006 08:25
Congrats!
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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08-29-2006 14:03
Sometimes 512sq. meters get returned to Governor Linden and then put up as first land plots. So, if you keep your eye out you may find one in a developed Sim, and be able to have a better idea of your neighbors.
I do find that my neighborhood changes almost daily though.
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
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08-30-2006 06:00
From: Whimsycallie Pegler Sometimes 512sq. meters get returned to Governor Linden and then put up as first land plots. So, if you keep your eye out you may find one in a developed Sim, and be able to have a better idea of your neighbors.
I do find that my neighborhood changes almost daily though. I found that to be the amusing part of firstland walking around to see the changes when you got bored, there seems to be no end to the creativity and and even the mistakes were endearing. Made some friends, avoided some people, all in all no regrets!
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Thistle Decatur
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Join date: 25 Aug 2006
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08-30-2006 14:21
People keep mentioning nice mature sims. Can you give me some examples to visit?
I started looking for a 512 patch of land last night, and I couldn't seem to find any areas that weren't full of a hodge-podge of gaudy buildings. It looked like some people had tried very hard to make beautiful houses, but they were just overwhelmed by the neighbors.
I realize after reading this thread that I should look for first land, use it for practice, and then move on, so I'll do that instead. But I'd really like to see what a nice themed sim looks like. Is there perhaps a garden sim, where people live in caves and cover the visible surfaces with plants and flowers? Or a forest sim? Underwater? A sky city?
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Alice Katayama
Making Faces
Join date: 29 Jun 2006
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09-05-2006 10:28
From: Whimsycallie Pegler I do find that my neighborhood changes almost daily though.
found another plot in a mature area.. it almost never changes. Its pretty and the buildings close to me are nice. A lot less activity though, could be described as sleepy after First land
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