Faction Thread

Please name what party you will be affiliated with and tell us a little about it.

Remember you have to start a group for your party.

Once we see how many active parties we have we can then begin to answer questions about the senate.

I would like to start a faction for now to be called the "United Conservative Front". The name is subject to change as membership forms and ideas are developed further.

This party will be for conservatives and will support a wide range of conservative issues. I view this as more of a moderate conservative group that will stand up for conservative ideals but is open minded too.

Some issues we will support (subject to change as the group forms it’s opinions):

1. Lower taxes
2. Smaller government involvement in our daily lives
3. Flat tax system
4. Making the city a no-fly zone
5. Freedom of the Meisters to set whatever wage structure they wish for Apprentices and Journeymen.
6. Free Market System
7. Freedom of speech
8. Separation of RL government and SL government
9. Separation of Church and state

I know there are a bunch more but will have to put some thought into it. This is what I thought of on the top of my head. I will update this post as they come to mind, or as you suggest them.

Please let me know if you have interest in being a part of this faction.

couple of quibbles to your platform

1) We don't have an income tax
3) We don't have a progressive tax sales tax
5) Party politics have no function or business in affairs of The Guild

1) I know but maybe we should instead of only taxing proceeds (income assuming here is no cost of goods sold) from goods that are sold. I will amend my original post to simply say "Lower Taxes" as that wass my intent. TY for pointing out the error.

2) And I want to keep it that way... hehe We will support keeping the flat tax system that we currently have.

5) Unless laws are passed to the contrary.

Looks like the political debating is already starting and we only have 1 faction listed. I love it!

Since taxes will be decided at the legislature level, it is possible in the future for the government to implement an income tax, and a different sales tax. So I don't have a problem with parties stating there views on tax issues that don't yet exist.

There is no debate here. Political Partys have no sway in internal Guild politics. If you want to be involved in internal Guild politics --join The Guild.

This is not what we are talking about. The senate is NOT a political party, it is a governing body. The Guild should have to live by the laws passed just like everyone else. They should not be immune to having laws passed about how they are to operate.

I do hope that you are not taking a "my way or the highway" approach to this Kendra.

No. The Senate does not and can not have oversight of The Guild's business practices.
The Senate is an administrative and representative body of The People --it is a third branch of the Government -- it is not the *entire* Government.

Trust me. The Guild, in the interests of the worker, would never submit to Senate control of the artist's wages, you want to change the Guild? Join The Guild.

You want to attempt to set Guild Policy from the floor of the Senate? Look for a work stoppage.

This needs to be discussed then because I do not believe that the Guild should be above the law.



Who said it was the WHOLE Government?



Again, the Guild should not be above the law as I said above. It wouldn’t be submitting to “Senate control” anyway Kendra. It would be submitting to Government control like everyone else.



Why so damned condescending Kenda. There is no need for that as it is counterproductive and rude.

This thread is about factions anyway so I am unsure why you want to debate issues here.

Did you even read what I am for? I am for “Freedom of the Meisters to set whatever wage structure they wish for Apprentices and Journeymen” so I fail to see why you are complaining.

Billy, you are still seeing this Government as a Federalist Republic. It is not.
There are three equal branches of this Government.

The Senate has no right whatsoever to establish policies for The Guild. period.
The Guild is not above the Law -- it is one third of that law.

Partys and Factions relate to the Senate --The Guild is not part of the Party system. How hard is that to understand? The Academy also is not part of the Party system.

and yes --if you think the Guild is setting itself as above the law then you are seeing the Senate as the WHOLE government.

Now on your final point

"“Freedom of the Meisters to set whatever wage structure they wish for Apprentices and Journeymen”

This is a horrible idea. While is might prove beneficial for the meisters --how does it serve to protect the apprentice or the journeyman. The Guild collectively decides on wage structures and abides by it's own decision.

I am very serious about my responsabilty as Gildemeister to protect the interests of the worker. The whole purpose of the Guild being a branch of the Government is to ensure that The Guild has the power to protect it's own.

Guys this is supposed to be where people are entering a party and stating their agenda.....go make out elsewhere.

I'd like to submit the SDF as an official faction for the Neualtenburg Representative branch. Unfortunately, I will be in service of the Philosophic branch and will not be able to participate in the Representative branch. Kendra, I know you've mentioned a workers party. Would you like to take the helm of the SDF? It was created from the beginning as workers party, which is why I placed the socialist workers fist in the logo.

I know you well enough that I can say with confidence, there's not a change you could make to the SDF platform that I would not support and agree with. Let me know. Just a thought.

~Ulrika~

I'd be honored. Thanks for your vote of confidence --I know how near and dear the SDF is to you

Billy, I like the sound of your faction and the fact that it provides balance and variety to the factions listed so far! I would recommend one change though. In the interest of keeping RL and SL politics separated, we should think about a name for your faction that is not invocative of the U.S. Republican party. I worry that the emotions associated with RL politics could interfere with our goal of creating a successful SL political system. Of course, it is completely your decision.

Thank you for being the dissenting voice in a relatively homogenous group. Now you know how we feel in RL!

~Ulrika~

Apparently the Costume Party is not welcome in Neualtenburg.

Note that certain threads no longer exist.

- Ace

I agree, the name makes me hate the party already, regardless of what the platform is

Thanks for the input. I chose the name because I thought it was funny to be honest but after thinking about it I think I agree with you. I certainly do not want to alienate anyone and even though you may not think so, my intention is NOT for this to be an extreme right faction.

I view it as more of a moderate conservative group that will stand up for conservative ideals but is open minded too.

TY for the input.

aaawww... I'm sorry about that Satch. I agree with Ulrika after giving it some thought and will change the name. Any suggestions?

I for one welcome and support your involvment Ace. I love the name "costume party" too.

I have read your website but others may not have done so. This thread asks for a brief platform. It might be helpful if you gave a few bullet points here as to what your party will stand for.

Ace I dont know what happened but your supposed to pst about your party here if you're serious then do it!

I'll tell you what happened Talen. Ace's proposal was found to be not in the current 'taste' of things by the monarchs. The post was deleted and is being contested in the general forum now where the powers of Monarchy don't exist.

I deleted his thread. I have to warn you that Ace's thread was not a nice one. It started with what I perceived as thinly veiled contempt and ended with him calling the group "a bunch of pussies". He's continued it here in the general forum, where he calls us "overly constipated fools".

Try to avoid engaging in a flame war. I'll handle all griefing in our forum. If it continues in world let me know and I'll contact a Linden.

~Ulrika~

How about the "Billy Grace Experience".

~Ulrika~

Grrrr I dont care what anyone likes or not...I'll be seriously considering calling my party the skull fucking baby killers...

this is supposed to be a thread devoted to naming your party and telling us what it is...you don't like the name of a party FUCK YOU don't join it.

You people want to discuss everything into the ground....this will wither and die beofre our eyes.