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Gimme Tapioca
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05-09-2008 15:15
can any of you Maya guru's please help me. I am rather new to Maya, but have taught myself other complex programs before. I am finding that the sharing of info is not exactly free flowing in game. I have figured out how to sculpt a nurb with some fair results, and they have imported to SL fine, however, every now and then I get one thats ..odd...see pics below...can someone explain why this happens?

The nurb in Maya was smooth and nice, molded from a sphere and nothing overlaps or twists.......the sculpty has no toes or heel curves and has some odd stretched piece that covers one side of the shoe......why?



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05-09-2008 16:00
Make sure you freeze transformations, reset transformations, and delete construction history before you export. Otherwise things can come out all kinds of screwed up. Also, be sure Correct Orientation is turned on in the sculpty exporter dialog.

If you don't see the Correct Orientation checkbox, by the way, it's probably because there's a scrollbar in the way of it. This is due to a typo in the script. Search the script for the word "scrollable", and if there's a 1 next to it, change it to a 0.


On a side note, minor terminology correction. There's no such thing as "a nurb". NURBS is not a plural word. It is an acronym. It stands for non-uniform rational Bezier spline. The word "spline" is the subject, the only noun. All the other words are adjectives which describe what kind of spline you're talking about. If you remove the S, you remove the most important word, and all you're left with is a bunch of homeless adjectives with nothing to describe.

The correct thing to say would be "a NURBS surface" or "a NURBS sphere", etc.
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Yes!
05-09-2008 16:33
Chosen, I LOVE YOU!
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05-09-2008 16:44
ok, my next dumb question LOL I seemed to somehow have locked the rotation , I hold down alt and left click, and instead of rotating, it gives me a minus sign....only does it in this saved scene, can it be reactivated?
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05-09-2008 20:01
That will happen if you try to rotate an orthographic view pane. Orthographics are 2D, so you can only pan and zoom, no rotating the camera.

If it's happening in a perspective view pane, I don't know what to tell you. I've never heard of that happening before. A work around could be to copy & paste the geometry into a new scene.
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05-09-2008 21:47
Figured it out, space bar right click, rechoose perspective view, all fixed

new question, is there a simple way to make a sphere collapse into itself evenly, to make like half a sphere with the other half inside....hope that made sense
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05-10-2008 07:37
If I'm reading you right, what you're looking to do is convert a sphere into a hollow dome, with the bottom of the sphere being pushed upward to form the inner wall of the dome. There are many ways you could do that. Here is one:


1. Go into component mode (F8), and set your selection mask to include vertices. If you're not versed in Maya terminology, the selection mask is the collection of buttons toward the middle of the top toolbar in the main Maya window, beginning with the one that looks like a square and ending with the one that looks like a question mark. You'll see when you hover your mouse over those buttons, they say things like "Select point components", "Select parm point components", "Select line components", etc.

2. Grab the all the vertices in the sphere's south pole by drawing a selection box around it. Make sure not to select any vertices that are not part of the pole. And remember, even though the pole looks like just one vertex, it's actually many vertices, all occupying the same point in space. So never try to select a pole just by clicking on it. You must draw a selection box around it every time.

3. Move the south pole upward to some point close to the north pole. Leave whatever distance you'd like between the two poles, whatever thickness you want the "wall" of the dome to be.

4. Now in your selection mask, activate hulls selection. It's the button that looks like 4 small points connected by a thin looping line. When you turn it on, you'll see the vertices in your sphere are now connected by purple lines. Click on any one of the horizontal lines, and you'll select the entire corresponding row of vertices. Each row is called a hull.

5. Select the southern-most hull, and move it up toward its northern counterpart. Keep the distance between the two hulls the same as the distance between the two poles.

6. Repeat the process for all the remaining southern hulls. When you're done, you will have "deflated" the southern hemisphere completely, effectively turning the sphere into a dome.

7. If you want the rim of the dome to have sharp edges, move three hulls to each edge, and scale them appropriately. With NURBS modeling, it always takes three points to make a corner. Put all three in the same space, and the corner will be absolutely sharp. The more distance you leave between them, the more rounded the corner will be. In most cases, a small amount of round-over is desirable, as very few objects in RL have absolute sharp corners.


As I said, there are many, many ways to do what you asked about. The above just happens to be a simple one to explain. It's not the fastest way to work, though. For more speed, learn how to use deformers. You'll find them in the animation section of Maya. (Select sections via the pull-down menu at the upper left of the screen. By default, it's usually set either to Polygons or Surfaces.)

Deformers are very powerful modeling aids. The reason they are accessed from the animation section is simply because animation is what they were invented for. When you're watching an animated film, for example, and you see the character's eyes bulge for a second in excitement, and then return to normal size right afterwards, that's an example of sculpt deformers at work. Lip movements for speech are often done using wire deformers. Etc., etc., etc.

But animation is not the only function of deformers. As modeling tools, they can speed up your work by about 10,000 percent. It's well worth taking the time to learn how they work.

Sorry, but I can't really explain it all here. I'd need to write the equivalent of an entire textbook chapter, which obviously is not appropriate for a forum post. Consult the Maya help documentation to get started. If you have any specific questions along the way, feel free to ask. I can't explain the entire subject from start to finish here, but I can certainly answer singularly pointed questions.

So you know, the basic deformer work flow is:

1. Select the object you want to deform.

2. Apply a deformer to the object.

3. Edit the deformer to change the object's shape.

4. Make the changes permanent by deleting construction history. The deformer will disappear when the history is deleted.
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05-10-2008 10:36
Chosen, you rock, TYSM for all your knowledge and patience in explaining it all, you have no idea how much I have learned from you or how grateful I am! I'm sure I'll have a hundred more questions..LOL my poor family may starve cuz Mom has been obsessed with Maya LOL
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Gimme Tapioca
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Wow
05-10-2008 10:54
ok, I'm totally having fun now, Deformers ROCK! Chosen, I love you! Huge Hugs!
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