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Nicholas Zeritonga
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Join date: 22 Jan 2010
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01-28-2010 17:53
Where can I build in second life and where can I place my Objects? Whenever I try, I get an error saying the landowner does not allow building etc. Do I have to buy land? I am a member of my college group where we have land, but when I search it, it doesnt have a teleport option and i dont know how to get there.
Peggy Paperdoll
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01-28-2010 18:17
It sounds like your college group's land is private without public access......in other words only people or members with specific rights can access the land. You might try activating your group tag and see if you can TP to the land...........I'm not sure how private access works but assuming each member of the group is allowed access that should work. If that does not work IM someone in your group (one of the owners of the group or officials would be best) and ask to be TP'd in and/or put on the list to allow you to access the land.
Mitzy Shino
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01-28-2010 18:36
You can also build in sandboxes, there are lots around, but this isn't somewhere you can setup a home, they are places for building items and then picking up your stuff and taking it elsewhere.
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Ceera Murakami
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01-28-2010 19:07
Ask others in your college group if they have a "Sandbox" area for their group, with build-enabled land, and get a landmark from them. Or search for the College name, and look for a fairly open area that is build enabled in their sims.

Search for "Sandbox" in the Places search, and you'll find quite a few places that allow anyone to come and build. The downside of most public sandboxes is that they are magnets for griefers (troublemakers), who just go there to ruin things for everyone else with their "practical jokes" and disruptive behavior.

If you want a quiet, PG-rated sandbox area to try, go to the "RUCE 3" sim, run by Rutgers University. They have three sky platforms above the staduim that are usually pretty open for public use. There's a teleporter at the East end zone of the stadium to get to the platforms. Just search for "RUCE 3" in the map, and teleport to the stadium there. (I built that sim for them.)

In general, most land in SL is privately owned, and not for public use as a sandbox. Like walking down an urban street, you wouldn't just walk onto someone's yard and start digging a hole, or setting up a treehouse in their Apple tree. It is someone else's land, not yours.
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Nicholas Zeritonga
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Join date: 22 Jan 2010
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01-28-2010 19:30
kool, thank you all for the replies. I will contact my tutor and see how I can get access to his land, I will also check out the RUCE 3 Sim.

I just have one more quick question. I found some public land, or atleast I think I did as it would allow me to build onto it. I made a chair out of 6 boxes through scaling etc. I then sat on this chair. After a bit of time, all the pieces of this chair started dissappearing, and getting placed in a lost and found folder. So, I would now be sitting in a chair with 2 legs missing and no back piece. This would continue till everything had dissappeared. Why would this happen? Do I have to link all seperate boxes into one object or somthing?

Any advise appreciate as usual

cheers
Mitzy Shino
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01-28-2010 19:56
The returning items bit is due to auto return being set on the land, it allows the owner to let people build/rez items and then have them cleaned up for them.

From the sounds of it you didn't link the prims together, making it one object.
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Mitzy Shino
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01-28-2010 19:57
p.s. If your sitting on something it wont be returned with auto return until you get off it.
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Johan Laurasia
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01-28-2010 22:06
Word of advice... stay out of public sandboxes. Search for private ones, there are quite a few. Griefers LIVE in public sandboxes, so I highly recommend that you avoid public ones at ALL COSTS. If you're looking for a permanent place to rez objects, you'll need to get your own land. If you're a premium member, you can get land anywhere, otherwise, you can get land from estate owners. In each case a nominal monthly tier is required (to cover bandwidth costs). In the end, this money works it's way back to LL who pays the bandwidth fee.
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Ceera Murakami
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01-29-2010 07:09
From: Nicholas Zeritonga
kool, thank you all for the replies. I will contact my tutor and see how I can get access to his land, I will also check out the RUCE 3 Sim.

I just have one more quick question. I found some public land, or atleast I think I did as it would allow me to build onto it. I made a chair out of 6 boxes through scaling etc. I then sat on this chair. After a bit of time, all the pieces of this chair started dissappearing, and getting placed in a lost and found folder. So, I would now be sitting in a chair with 2 legs missing and no back piece. This would continue till everything had dissappeared. Why would this happen? Do I have to link all seperate boxes into one object or somthing?

Any advise appreciate as usual

cheers
If the parcel isn't owned by "Governor Linden" or some other Linden avatar, it isn't "Public Property". Many people allow limited building on their land, so friends and guests can rez items to use or to show them, short-term. This does not mean strangers are welcome to build at will and use their resources, which are being paid for by the parcel's owner.

Most parcels that allow building also have auto-return turned on, especially sandbox sims. The time to return ranges from as short as 1 minute on private property, to several days in the case of some very lenient public sandboxes. Typical is a few hours.

What auto-return does is to return to the owner's inventory any prims that do not belong to the owner of the parcel, or ar not set to the same group as the group the parcel is set or deeded to. This prevents "prim litter" from building up, with strangers leaving their stuff on other people's land, or even setting up whole houses as skyboxes, and "squatting" on someone else's property, stealing their resources for a free home.

Let's take the RUCE 3 sandbox as an example. The auto-return time is pretty generous there. Over three hours, as I recall, and I am wanting to say more like 6 hours. Yet on the ground there's a whole stadium, built by me, and I can continue to modify it at will, without pieces vanishing. This is because I am part of a Rutgers group that the parcel is set to. As long as I wear my RUCE group tag while building there, my prims remain past the auto-return time-out. But if I was wearing my "Fox and Ground Construction Company" group tag, my prims vanish at the time-out period, just like anyone else's.
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hurly Burleigh
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01-29-2010 07:44
The best way to obtain permission to build on land is to make friends with people by being polite and friendly. Once you get to know people they are often more than happy for you to use their land to experiment with building so long as you clean up when you are finished.

You never know yoy may even be offered a peice of land to settle on permanently if they own a sim that is not being used for rental. They will likely give you a limit as to the number of prims you can use though.

As far as your object falling apart you need to LINK all the sections (prims) together
This is easily done by shift selecting each part then going to the top menu bar and clicking
Tool/Link. You will notice most of the prims then have a blue outline but one will have a yellow outline. This is called the root prim and will be the last one you selected. The root prim can be very important as it controls where rotation etc is calculated from for linked objects.

If you need help with building tips please feel free to contact me inworld