how to chage from personal to grouped land with 300+ prim building??

ok, so i have this 300+ prim building, linked in chuncks to apoint sitting on a 4096 chunck of land. well i've decided to switch from personal to group land, but i would like to know what would be the best way to do this?

i don't want to have to rebuild the building and redo all the decor inside...

is there any easy way to do it?

the group will be a personal group, and the prims on propertly are all mine, but i don't mind the building and decor being group based either.

select (edit) each object click (more....) and ensure its group is changed to the name to the land group, and thats it! as long as the parts group identifier is the same as the land group you shouldn't have any trouble.

It really boils down to finding a good way to select a 300+ prim build, because once you have it selected, you can set the group of all the prims with a couple of clicks.

The edit tool has a useful way to select multiple prims/objects. When the editor is open, you can click and drag a box across the screen that will select large numbers of prims that are within it. The Tools menu has some options that allow you to restrict this to only objects that you own. I believe that you can combine this with the shift key to build up a progressively larger selection.

In general, this is very good, but I find that large builds can still be problematic. It can be difficult to know when you've selected everything. Or if you know that you haven't, it's hard to know what you're missing.

An additional problem is that this method can't be used to select a Linden tree and if you select a Linden tree, then there's no visual indication that it's selected.

My solution is "Debug>Rendering>Hide Selected". When you turn this on, then anything that's selected will disappear. It's still there, you just can't see it. And whatever's left is what hasn't been selected. So you get a clear and immediate indication of what hasn't been selected.

Highly recommended for selecting large builds or those with Linden trees.

Regardless of selection problems, your biggest problem may be something which happenmed to me a while back.
To do what you propose you need to change the land to 'group' before you can even think about selecting any prims to deed to group.

I had an entire sim worth of buildings, furniture, stuff, things... NO autoreturn enabled.
AS SOON AS I CHANGED THE LAND TO GROUP all the buildings in the sim started tearing themselves apart as prims were returned, more at less at random, I had to quickly revert the land to privately owned to stop the process.... leaving the sim in an awful mess. I'm not the only person to have had this happen either.

OK, you have a smaller area, but in your shoes I'd use something likr RezFoo to pack your build away and take it into inventory, THEN switch the land to group, THEN re-rez the building.
Safer...

That's bizarre. Was it all a single parcel? Did you ever find out why it happened?

As a side note, I once put myself in a world of hurt transferring land to a group. I had about 4 parcels in a sim with autoreturn turned off. And I started transferring them to the group one at a time.

What I didn't count on was the fact that the prims were unevenly distributed across the parcels. So, as soon as I transferred the first lot, it left one or more of the lots with insufficient prim allocation and things started getting returned. Significant damage was done before I could get them all transferred to the group.

under the building tools there is an option to select only your own objects. i'd use that in conjunction with the option shack mentioned. it will speed up the process for large complex builds.

So I've done what the OP asked about and have my huge house deeded to group. But I did not change the next owner permission before I did. Trouble is now I cant edit it at all and I cant seem to undeed it. I've unchecked share with group but it still says group owned and of course I cant edit it.

Soooooooo

Can I get my build back or am I SOL?

Catt

This was an entire mainland sim - I had nearly a 1000 prims back before I was able to stop it.
I know Wayfinder Wishbringer had the same thing happen under the same circumstances in Elvenglen. My sim was only using about 7000 prims, but I expect it was the same reason your parcels did it...
However, I STILL wouldn't risk it. Especially these days. As I commented to someone recently, SL is now so buggy that you need to search for things that aren't broken, rather than things that are these days...

Ouch! Deeding an object to group is almost always a bad thing. Setting the group. good. Deeding. usually bad.

The way that you undeed an object is to sell it back to yourself. But if the next owner perms were set notrans, then there is no way to do this because the group doesn't have permission to transfer it to another owner.

I'd check with a Linden about this. Maybe there is some magic they can do.

But if the Lindens won't intervene...

Recently, LL changed the behavior of deeded objects so that when they are returned, they go back to the previous owner in the lost&found folder. It used to be that deeded objects disappeared when they were returned.

So, I think that you can get the object back by returning it from the land. But please verify this with a different object first. Create a cube. deed it to group. and then return it. Make sure that it comes back to you. Because I'm not 100% sure of what the current behavior is in this situation.

ouch....

a prime exmaple, why i am waiting for more people to reply before switching it over. at least i'm not the only one who is interesting in this topic. i have sveeral chuncks of single 512 plots i might try building on and grouping over and seeing what happens and testing it all out.

thank you all for the great ideas and warnings.

i will check back for more ideas and once i switch everything over, i'll be sure to come back and let everyone know what i ended up doing and how it turned out.



thanks again for all your help, support, and knowledge.

AS

Ok to clarify this... just setting the item to group will keep it from being returned when atuo-return is set on the group deeded land.

so no need to really deed anything to the group other than media players and land?

am i correct with this?

Yep! For most purposes, setting the group is enough. There are reasons to deed objects, but if autoreturn is your problem, then deeding is not necessary.

yeah for the most part, autoreturn is my main concern.

Thanks for the reply Shack! I'll experiment with return some today and see how I go



So what would be the reasons for using deed instead of just setting it to group?

Catt

Mostly related to scripting.

music and video streams are associated with the land. if you have group-owned land and you want to set the music and video streams via script, then the script must be in an object that's deeded to the group.

If you want payment to an object to go to the group, then you'd deed the object.

Might also be some uses related to sharing the objects with other people in the group. But these uses must be well-thought.

I don't use deeded objects, so I probably don't know all of them.

As you learned it's vitally important to understand next owner permissions and have them set properly whenever you're transfering an object. You can get into the same pickle by giving an object to another person, if you give the only copy.

It's just easier with deeding to get the only copy into an unrecoverable state.

Never knew that option existed. That's very handy