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Dzar Overlord

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Join date: 16 Mar 2007

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03-28-2007 21:49

I'm trying to make some small attachments for my own avatar and read the thread on making tiny prims. Great thread but I'm a little lost on the part of making tiny cylinders. Specifically, shrinking their width.

The thread states:
"make the usual 0.01 x 0.01 x 0.01 meter cylinder and dimple it all the way down to 0.49 and 0.51 which is the smallest possible dimple. change back to a cylinder and you'll notice it's pretty thin but still too wide."

Great got that part. Zoomed in close it looks like an old vinyl record disk.

It further states:
"well, reduce the top sizes down to 0.0 on both X and Y."

That's where I get lost. Top sizes of what? Where? Maybe I just can't get my mind past the 0.0 part or I don't know. I'm utterly confused with that part of it.

If anyone could clarify that so it looks more like a shrunken cylinder past .01x.01x.01 I would be grateful. My goal is to make a very thin wire.

Thank you much in advance.

Chosen Few

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Join date: 16 Jan 2004

Posts: 7,496

03-28-2007 22:31

The term "top size" was changed to "taper" a while back. It used to be that we could only shrink the tops of prims. When we got the ability to shrink the bottoms as well, they changed the name to "skew". Whenever you see "top size", interpret it to mean "positive taper".

There is another method, by the way, that you might want to try. Instead of using a cylinder, use a tube. Hollow it, and cut away the outside (profile cut), and what you'll be left with is the very thin cylindrical core of the tube. Since you'll be cutting/hollowing away 95% of the prim, it's possible this way to create cylindrical object just .0005M across. That's thin!

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Dnel DaSilva

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Join date: 22 May 2005

Posts: 781

03-28-2007 23:30

From: Chosen Few

The term "top size" was changed to "skew" a while back. It used to be that we could only shrink the tops of prims. When we got the ability to shrink the bottoms as well, they changed the name to "skew". Whenever you see "top size", interpret it to mean "positive skew".

There is another method, by the way, that you might want to try. Instead of using a cylinder, use a tube. Hollow it, and cut away the outside (profile cut), and what you'll be left with is the very thin cylindrical core of the tube. Since you'll be cutting/hollowing away 95% of the prim, it's possible this way to create cylindrical object just .0005M across. That's thin!

Was using this tonite so its fresh in my head. The cut is 0.50 and 0.75. Great for the pins in jewelry, like say the pins inbetween links in a watch band. Cut a bit more past 0.50 and 0.75 to get rid of the angled edge that is left and becomes more noticable as you make the pin longer.

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Ceera Murakami

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Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

03-29-2007 09:04

From: Chosen Few

There is another method, by the way, that you might want to try. Instead of using a cylinder, use a tube. Hollow it, and cut away the outside (profile cut), and what you'll be left with is the very thin cylindrical core of the tube. Since you'll be cutting/hollowing away 95% of the prim, it's possible this way to create cylindrical object just .0005M across. That's thin!

Yay! Thank you for that tip! I can't wait to try using that for part of the buckle on some of my creations that have buckled leather straps! I've been using a quartered cylinder for the part that sticks through the holes in the strap. This idea should be much better!

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Seifert Surface

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Join date: 14 Jun 2005

Posts: 912

03-29-2007 09:46

From: Chosen Few

The term "top size" was changed to "skew" a while back.

I think you mean "taper". The tube method is probably going to be better though, the size at the top and bottom of the tiny cylinder will be exactly the same, whereas the taper method has a slight difference. On the other hand, you can't get the top and bottom of the tube version tiny cylinder to be flat disks.

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Chosen Few

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03-29-2007 16:21

From: Seifert Surface

I think you mean "taper".

Oops. Thanks for catching that. Man, I gotta stop posting stuff in the middle of the night,

I've edited my post to change "skew" to "taper".

I think that's actually the second time I've made that exact same mistake. Ouch.

From: Seifert Surface

The tube method is probably going to be better though, the size at the top and bottom of the tiny cylinder will be exactly the same, whereas the taper method has a slight difference. On the other hand, you can't get the top and bottom of the tube version tiny cylinder to be flat disks.

You can get one end to be flat, but not both. Set either the beginning or the end of the profile cut to .625. SL will appear to round this to .63, but that's not a big deal. The surface will appear to be a flat disc. The other end will still come to a point though.

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Making tiny cylinders
Dzar Overlord Registered User Join date: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 8	03-28-2007 21:49 I'm trying to make some small attachments for my own avatar and read the thread on making tiny prims. Great thread but I'm a little lost on the part of making tiny cylinders. Specifically, shrinking their width. The thread states: "make the usual 0.01 x 0.01 x 0.01 meter cylinder and dimple it all the way down to 0.49 and 0.51 which is the smallest possible dimple. change back to a cylinder and you'll notice it's pretty thin but still too wide." Great got that part. Zoomed in close it looks like an old vinyl record disk. It further states: "well, reduce the top sizes down to 0.0 on both X and Y." That's where I get lost. Top sizes of what? Where? Maybe I just can't get my mind past the 0.0 part or I don't know. I'm utterly confused with that part of it. If anyone could clarify that so it looks more like a shrunken cylinder past .01x.01x.01 I would be grateful. My goal is to make a very thin wire. Thank you much in advance.
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	03-28-2007 22:31 The term "top size" was changed to "taper" a while back. It used to be that we could only shrink the tops of prims. When we got the ability to shrink the bottoms as well, they changed the name to "skew". Whenever you see "top size", interpret it to mean "positive taper". There is another method, by the way, that you might want to try. Instead of using a cylinder, use a tube. Hollow it, and cut away the outside (profile cut), and what you'll be left with is the very thin cylindrical core of the tube. Since you'll be cutting/hollowing away 95% of the prim, it's possible this way to create cylindrical object just .0005M across. That's thin! _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.
Dnel DaSilva Master Xessorizer Join date: 22 May 2005 Posts: 781	03-28-2007 23:30 From: Chosen Few The term "top size" was changed to "skew" a while back. It used to be that we could only shrink the tops of prims. When we got the ability to shrink the bottoms as well, they changed the name to "skew". Whenever you see "top size", interpret it to mean "positive skew". There is another method, by the way, that you might want to try. Instead of using a cylinder, use a tube. Hollow it, and cut away the outside (profile cut), and what you'll be left with is the very thin cylindrical core of the tube. Since you'll be cutting/hollowing away 95% of the prim, it's possible this way to create cylindrical object just .0005M across. That's thin! Was using this tonite so its fresh in my head. The cut is 0.50 and 0.75. Great for the pins in jewelry, like say the pins inbetween links in a watch band. Cut a bit more past 0.50 and 0.75 to get rid of the angled edge that is left and becomes more noticable as you make the pin longer. _____________________ Xessories in Urbane, home of high quality jewelry and accessories. Coming soon to www.xessories.net Why accessorize when you can Xessorize?
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	03-29-2007 09:04 From: Chosen Few There is another method, by the way, that you might want to try. Instead of using a cylinder, use a tube. Hollow it, and cut away the outside (profile cut), and what you'll be left with is the very thin cylindrical core of the tube. Since you'll be cutting/hollowing away 95% of the prim, it's possible this way to create cylindrical object just .0005M across. That's thin! Yay! Thank you for that tip! I can't wait to try using that for part of the buckle on some of my creations that have buckled leather straps! I've been using a quartered cylinder for the part that sticks through the holes in the strap. This idea should be much better! _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Seifert Surface Mathematician Join date: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 912	03-29-2007 09:46 From: Chosen Few The term "top size" was changed to "skew" a while back. I think you mean "taper". The tube method is probably going to be better though, the size at the top and bottom of the tiny cylinder will be exactly the same, whereas the taper method has a slight difference. On the other hand, you can't get the top and bottom of the tube version tiny cylinder to be flat disks. _____________________ -Seifert Surface 2G!tGLf 2nLt9cG
Chosen Few Alpha Channel Slave Join date: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 7,496	03-29-2007 16:21 From: Seifert Surface I think you mean "taper". Oops. Thanks for catching that. Man, I gotta stop posting stuff in the middle of the night, I've edited my post to change "skew" to "taper". I think that's actually the second time I've made that exact same mistake. Ouch. From: Seifert Surface The tube method is probably going to be better though, the size at the top and bottom of the tiny cylinder will be exactly the same, whereas the taper method has a slight difference. On the other hand, you can't get the top and bottom of the tube version tiny cylinder to be flat disks. You can get one end to be flat, but not both. Set either the beginning or the end of the profile cut to .625. SL will appear to round this to .63, but that's not a big deal. The surface will appear to be a flat disc. The other end will still come to a point though. _____________________ . Land now available for rent in Indigo. Low rates. Quiet, low-lag mainland sim with good neighbors. IM me in-world if you're interested.

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