New Permission? question
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IBME Swindlehurst
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09-18-2009 19:38
OK, so it has been a while since I've looked at PERMISSIONS. I've searched the Knowledge Base, the Forums, and Google and cannot find an ansswer. It's probably a dumb question, but can one of you knowledgeable folks help me?
When I create an object and look on the "GENERAL" tab in the edit window I see (to the right of Permissions)
B:VMCT I assume this is the BASE permissions
O:VMCT I assme this is the current owner permissions
G: I assume this is Group permissions. It is blank as the object isn't deeded
E: I assume this is EVERYONE as it changes if I check ALLOW ANYONE TO COPY
N:V T I assume this is NEXT OWNER
F:VMCT This is the one I don't understand. What is it, and is it new?
I haven't found info on the "F:VMCT" portion anywhere and can't guess what it might be. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Chosen Few
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09-18-2009 19:51
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Are you using a non-standard viewer? There's nothing even remotely like what you describe on the General tab in any viewer I've used.
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IBME Swindlehurst
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09-18-2009 19:53
It is the standard 1.23.4 viewer.
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Osprey Therian
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09-18-2009 20:15
It's debug permissions, an invaluable function. VMCT = Move, mod, copy, transfer. I always forget what F is - I'll spork my brain a little  Debug gives you the real permissions on any object that might've been in inventory when perms were changed and not have the true permissions applied until rezzing. |
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IBME Swindlehurst
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09-18-2009 20:18
Is it the "F:" part that is Debug permissions? If so, how do I set them, or unset them?
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Osprey Therian
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09-18-2009 20:20
No - I was telling chosen it is the debug permissions function that you are looking at.
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Osprey Therian
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09-18-2009 20:20
I need to think about it for a minute - that F always eludes me.
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IBME Swindlehurst
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09-18-2009 20:25
In the back of my mind, I keep coming up with something about "Flags" whether they have been set or not, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
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Osprey Therian
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09-18-2009 20:26
I think it's Friends with object rights.
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IBME Swindlehurst
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09-18-2009 20:32
AHHHH, I found it:
F = Full/Folded - The permissions of the object as a whole, including all permissions of the object's contents. For example, a copyable object which has a no-copy item added to its contents becomes non-copyable as a whole because it's restricted by the no-copy content item.
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Osprey Therian
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09-18-2009 20:33
THAT'S IT!!! Yay! I knew Friends wasn't right heh
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Osprey Therian
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09-18-2009 20:35
I need to write that down somewhere:
FULL
FULL
FULL
FULL
FULL
Or write it 100 times on a blackboard.
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Chosen Few
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09-18-2009 22:35
Thanks for the info, Osprey. That does indeed sound useful. I'll have to take a look.
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Sneeker Sahara
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09-19-2009 09:35
Is there a way to edit these permissions?
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Osprey Therian
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09-20-2009 20:27
They are the same permissions, not different ones. You change the little tickboxes as always and the results are shown in Permissions and debug permissions - it's just that debug permissions shows what the real permissions are when the object permissions have been changed in inventory. Permissions may be set in inv but not show until the object is rezzed, which is why we have debug permissions.
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Chosen Few
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09-20-2009 21:50
From: Osprey Therian Permissions may be set in inv but not show until the object is rezzed, which is why we have debug permissions. ...which begs the question, if the debug query can find the correct info, why can't they fix the inventory display to do the same?
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Osprey Therian
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09-20-2009 22:38
From: Chosen Few ...which begs the question, if the debug query can find the correct info, why can't they fix the inventory display to do the same? Well, debug perms sort of tells the future - since the permissions have been marked to be changed on rez but haven't yet taken effect if the object hasn't been rezzed. If perms said the future on-rez perms we'd need debug perms to tell us what the current perms are. |
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Lear Cale
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09-21-2009 11:04
From: Chosen Few ...which begs the question, if the debug query can find the correct info, why can't they fix the inventory display to do the same? Just guessing, but it might be too computationally expensive to check this every time the inventory is displayed, but reasonable to do it when asked for a given object in inventory. |
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Osprey Therian
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09-21-2009 11:09
Well, I think actually the debug and ordinary perms tell the same story except in odd cases where there's a bug, when they can enlighten.
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