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Shire Pony

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Join date: 6 Aug 2006

Posts: 3

01-18-2007 08:14

Perhaps I'm just going mad, but with this latest update I can't seem to link prims that are close together anymore.

Try this:

Make two generic cubes. Place them 5m apart and try to link them. For me this fails with the "Link failed --pieces too far apart" error. Five Meters and they are too far apart!!!

Now... if you make one of the two cubes 2m long, suddenly they will link.

BUT if you move that 2m long prim such that its now 7m away from the first, then it WONT link.

Further, if you try to move the linked pieces beyond this arbitrary range, they snap back again. Its physically impossible to have two small prims linked at the normal 30m range.

Somehow, the latest update has tied link distance to prim size?

I have a hard time believing I'm the first to see this, so perhaps someone knows what's going on here. This is a real show stopper for me!

Rris Greenfield

Registered User

Join date: 21 Sep 2006

Posts: 3

Also unable to link small prims.

01-18-2007 08:31

As observed, after this last update I am not able to link 2 standard size prims or smaller at any range over 5 meters. What happened to the 30 meter limit? This will make it next to impossible to build or use link messages in scripts for larger composit objects. This bug needs to be corrected ASAP.
Thanks

Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

01-18-2007 09:37

This bug was already there. It depends on two factors - center to center distance, and prim size. Smaller prims won't link unless they are closer to something else.

For example, you can link a string of 0.5M spheres that are 2M apart, and can do it to the 30M limit between the farthest pair. Make those same 0.5M spheres 5M apart, and even two won't link, because there is too great a difference between prim size and the closest center to center distance.

Authoratative answer is HERE.

Andrew Linden Says:

From: someone

The simple approximate answer is: The maximum distance between the center of masses of the two primitives is the smaller of the two distances below:

(1) 32 meters

(2) three times the largest dimension of the largest primitive (plus 1 meter)

What this means is :

(A) very small objects can be a max of about 1 meter apart

(B) very large objects can be a max of 32 meters apart

(C) a 10x10x10 meter cube can be about 31 meters from a 0.01x0.01x0.01 cube

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Shire Pony

Registered User

Join date: 6 Aug 2006

Posts: 3

That's a VERY out of date reference

01-18-2007 10:20

While I appreciate the reference to that 2003 post (mind you - that was 3 1/2 YEARS ago), the fact is, it no longer applies.

If we are to believe the link rules you referenced still apply then two .5m cubes should only be able to link at (3x.5m) + 1m = 2.5m max. However, the reality is, you can link these two little cubes at a max distance of 4.34m even with this current bug.

Clearly, those old rules are no longer relavent.

"Pieces too far apart" bug?
Shire Pony Registered User Join date: 6 Aug 2006 Posts: 3	01-18-2007 08:14 Perhaps I'm just going mad, but with this latest update I can't seem to link prims that are close together anymore. Try this: Make two generic cubes. Place them 5m apart and try to link them. For me this fails with the "Link failed --pieces too far apart" error. Five Meters and they are too far apart!!! Now... if you make one of the two cubes 2m long, suddenly they will link. BUT if you move that 2m long prim such that its now 7m away from the first, then it WONT link. Further, if you try to move the linked pieces beyond this arbitrary range, they snap back again. Its physically impossible to have two small prims linked at the normal 30m range. Somehow, the latest update has tied link distance to prim size? I have a hard time believing I'm the first to see this, so perhaps someone knows what's going on here. This is a real show stopper for me!
Rris Greenfield Registered User Join date: 21 Sep 2006 Posts: 3	Also unable to link small prims. 01-18-2007 08:31 As observed, after this last update I am not able to link 2 standard size prims or smaller at any range over 5 meters. What happened to the 30 meter limit? This will make it next to impossible to build or use link messages in scripts for larger composit objects. This bug needs to be corrected ASAP. Thanks
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	01-18-2007 09:37 This bug was already there. It depends on two factors - center to center distance, and prim size. Smaller prims won't link unless they are closer to something else. For example, you can link a string of 0.5M spheres that are 2M apart, and can do it to the 30M limit between the farthest pair. Make those same 0.5M spheres 5M apart, and even two won't link, because there is too great a difference between prim size and the closest center to center distance. Authoratative answer is HERE. Andrew Linden Says: From: someone The simple approximate answer is: The maximum distance between the center of masses of the two primitives is the smaller of the two distances below: (1) 32 meters (2) three times the largest dimension of the largest primitive (plus 1 meter) What this means is : (A) very small objects can be a max of about 1 meter apart (B) very large objects can be a max of 32 meters apart (C) a 10x10x10 meter cube can be about 31 meters from a 0.01x0.01x0.01 cube _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Shire Pony Registered User Join date: 6 Aug 2006 Posts: 3	That's a VERY out of date reference 01-18-2007 10:20 While I appreciate the reference to that 2003 post (mind you - that was 3 1/2 YEARS ago), the fact is, it no longer applies. If we are to believe the link rules you referenced still apply then two .5m cubes should only be able to link at (3x.5m) + 1m = 2.5m max. However, the reality is, you can link these two little cubes at a max distance of 4.34m even with this current bug. Clearly, those old rules are no longer relavent.

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